Posts for: Zemirah
Oct 22, 2023 04:14:33 #
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AuntiE, Your post is an excellent summation of the entire Bible and the entire Qur'an, with the understanding that they have no middle ground between them, no room for compromise.
"I call on heaven and earth as witnesses today that I have offered you life or death, blessings or curses. Choose life so that you and your descendants will live." Deuteronomy 30:19
One has only to add the gospel of Jesus Christ, and we've got the entire end picture of man's earthly struggles, as we each make our own decision between sharply defined good and evil, thereby choosing our own eternal destiny.
Jesus said, "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
I have come that they may have life, and have it in all its fullness;
"I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me;
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life [sacrificing it] for the sheep."
(John 10:10,11,14)
"I call on heaven and earth as witnesses today that I have offered you life or death, blessings or curses. Choose life so that you and your descendants will live." Deuteronomy 30:19
One has only to add the gospel of Jesus Christ, and we've got the entire end picture of man's earthly struggles, as we each make our own decision between sharply defined good and evil, thereby choosing our own eternal destiny.
Jesus said, "The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
I have come that they may have life, and have it in all its fullness;
"I am the good shepherd. I know My sheep and My sheep know Me;
I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life [sacrificing it] for the sheep."
(John 10:10,11,14)
AuntiE wrote:
https://www.objectivityistheobjective.com/post/dep... (show quote)
Oct 22, 2023 03:26:51 #
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AuntiE wrote:
It would please me to see the buildings, in Gaza, turned into a pile of gravel!!
Let's take it a step further. Soft shimmering sand would be even more of an eye catcher.
Oct 22, 2023 03:16:11 #
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Do you have a pair of eyeglasses, CR?
i SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE HOUSE SPEAKER.
I was very clearly addressing the fact that within the U.S. population, registered citizens are UNABLE to vote for the House Speaker, (for as I'm sure you know, only our duly elected House Representatives have that privilege).
i SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS TO BE HOUSE SPEAKER.
I was very clearly addressing the fact that within the U.S. population, registered citizens are UNABLE to vote for the House Speaker, (for as I'm sure you know, only our duly elected House Representatives have that privilege).
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Zemirah, yes, the House Speakership is available to any US citizen who is a natural born citizen to avoid connections to a foreign royal family. Remember, the Speaker is next in succession to the Presidency, need both the President and Vice President be removed from office.
Do you have a copy of the Constitution?
Do you have a copy of the Constitution?
Oct 20, 2023 13:41:16 #
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keepuphope wrote:
I understood your text and agree with you. When I ... (show quote)
The Qur'an is Satanic from the first page to the last. An Arabic Muslim student from the United Arab Emirates 1st gave me a copy of it forty four years ago, in 1979, and the first thing I did with it was turn to the back pages, to the index.
The Holy Bible says that God is love. In the index to the Qur'an, the word, love, does not appear.
Judgment and Wrath, however, occupy pages. Their deity is a remote unapproachable little "g" god of
hatred, wrath and judgment, first known to the ancient world as the moon god of Mesopotamia 4,000 years ago.
Winston Churchill, in his book, ― "The River War," written in 1898, spoke scathingly of Islam, and the Qur'an:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.
It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.” [Winston Churchill]
Oct 20, 2023 13:03:27 #
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Yours is the best, briefest, and to the point speech that I have heard.
If voting for the House Speaker was available to public registered citizens, your candidacy would command my vote.
If voting for the House Speaker was available to public registered citizens, your candidacy would command my vote.
debeda wrote:
Dear House Representatives: I am submitting my can... (show quote)
Oct 20, 2023 12:46:29 #
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To whom are you speaking?
And to what do you refer? If it is to this post, please reread it, because it says nothing of the kind.
There is no such place as Palestine, as is clearly stated above.
There are no morals or respect for life attributed to the Arab Muslims, those who pretend that they are mythical creatures known as Palestinians.
Those who are enslaved to Satan, through the teachings of the Qur'an, are brainwashed from the day they
are born, and they are terrified of being killed by their own family should they even appear to question Islam.
Their religion is totally external.
And to what do you refer? If it is to this post, please reread it, because it says nothing of the kind.
There is no such place as Palestine, as is clearly stated above.
There are no morals or respect for life attributed to the Arab Muslims, those who pretend that they are mythical creatures known as Palestinians.
Those who are enslaved to Satan, through the teachings of the Qur'an, are brainwashed from the day they
are born, and they are terrified of being killed by their own family should they even appear to question Islam.
Their religion is totally external.
keepuphope wrote:
Exactly. Your brain dead if you can't see that. You attribute morals and respect for life to the palestians. And I'm not saying all of them. I believe there are those in Palestine who don't agree with this creed but to outwardly show it endangers their whole family because if your not fanatical your life isn't worth any more than a Jews.
Oct 20, 2023 11:56:22 #
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jimpack123 wrote:
Massive fraud describes the Former POTUS a Liar and a crook as well
It is so difficult to understand how mass Media brainwashing can render our citizens into mimicking puppetry.
Check out topic: Satan Asks Democrats To Tone Down All The Evil
Oct 20, 2023 11:51:19 #
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Because Biblical literacy continues to drastically decrease in the midst of the "Christian world," ignorance of God’s Word, especially His prophetic revelation of the future of Israel and the nations of this earth, is rampant.
There is a worldwide purported belief that if Israel would only give back the territories it captured during the Six Day War in 1967, then peace would come to the Middle East. This is demonstrably false, and has been so proven by a chant now being acclaimed throughout the world: "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free."
Israel returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in 1982 after Egypt recognized Israel as a legitimate sovereign state.
This is the strategically important land bordering Israel on the south, forming the southern border of Gaza. Even so, Israel gave that land up to Egypt for peace.
The other territories that Israel occupied after 1967 were the Gaza Strip and the "West Bank" of the Jordan, the latter is Judea and Samaria in the days of the Bible.
In 2005, Israel gave Gaza back to the Palestinians. (before the Six Day War, the Palestinians were known simply as Arabs, since there was not and had never been a Palestinian national identity, or a Palestinian government; a few of the local Arab inhabitants had remained for generations as Arabs.)
[b]In 2006, the Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas as their leadership although Hamas was explicitly formed in 1987 with the sole purpose of obliterating Israel.]/b] It is contained in their original charter.
The concept of "land for peace" is a lie on the part of the Arabs.
Israel's attempt to co-exist for 76 years with families next door who believe they have no right to be in their home or even in the land, and expressly and repeatedly state, "We will drive you out or murder you" has finally reached it's expiration date.
That’s what Israel, who drove their own settlers from the land and bulldozed their homes, in order to give it to the Arabs, has received in appreciation from them since 2006.
The refrain is now heard, "But they still deny Hamas, the elected government of Gaza, and the captives of
Hamas - the population who label themselves Palestinians, but are Arabs who migrated from neighboring lands, the right to pass freely, at will, in and out of Israel, thus restricting their access to the outside world."
True, for one reason only: Hamas has vowed to slaughter all Israelis, and Hamas rules Gaza. Does any rational person believe that Israel should or will agree to immediately remove all their defenses and open wide their borders to fanatical, merciless terrorists who wish only to annihilate them?
October 7th has just shown us the extreme and utter folly of that.
It should never be forgotten that Hamas has training camps for their children where they are taught their greatest virtue lies in becoming anti-Israel terrorists and they are given the life's goal of becoming martyrs for this cause. They are, from their earliest days, indoctrinated with hatred for Israel and the Jews. Whole families sing and dance in the streets with great joy when Hamas slaughters innocent Israelis — because in their eyes, all Israelis are vermin.
Jordanian-Palestinian businessman and politician, Talal Abu Ghazaleh, in a Lebanese television interview regarding the Gazan war on October 12th was very candid.
He said, “Israel would not sacrifice a single person. There isn’t a goal for which it would sacrifice a single person. They are afraid of death. Death for them is strange and loathsome. We, on the other hand, welcome death.
A Palestinian carries his son on his shoulders, with a headband on the kid’s forehead, which his father inscribed: ‘Martyrdom Seeker.’ This is a man who says: ‘I want my son to die.’
A Palestinian mother says: ‘I have given birth to six children, so that three could die in the revolution. I gave birth to children so that they would be martyred.’ This does not exist in the Zionist mentality.”
Their inspiration, taken straight from the words of the Qur'an, is the motivation of all of Israel's Muslim enemies.
When the interviewer referenced “the multitudes of innocent civilian victims [in Gaza],” he replied, “How many? Two thousand? The casualties always accumulate, unfortunately... Fine.
How many people did Russia sacrifice in its war against the Nazis? Twenty-seven million. Not just a thousand ...
We haven't gotten to thousands yet. Russia knowingly sacrificed those people. It was no coincidence. It is not that Russia did not know that these people were going to die. It wanted 27 million people to die so that Russia survives. We, Palestinians, are the same.
There are two million people [in Gaza]. If one dies ... I hope I will be one of them. It would be an honor to die as a martyr. But there are two million people in Gaza. Will [Israel] kill two million people? How? Half of them are hidden underground, in tunnels.”
And this was just a casual TV interview, with two people talking about Israel’s war with Hamas.
Abu Ghazaleh also explained, "You cannot defeat someone who wants to die. People who flee from death cannot defeat people who seek death. What happened in Germany in the World War? Entire cities were destroyed. But didn't Germany become later one of the five most wealthy countries in the world? Let them destroy [Gaza]. What is destroyed can be rebuilt. I think that the goal of Hamas's lions of humanity was to cause the demolition of those buildings so that they could be rebuilt properly, according to more aesthetic and newer engineering standards.”
"As to why Hitler only slaughtered 6 million out of 9 million European Jews, it was because he wanted to leave some alive so everyone could realize why he did what he did."
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Anyone who thinks that Israel returning to pre-1967 borders would eliminate these fourteen centuries old sentiments should spend a few hours on the Memri TV website, watching these clips. Read the quotes on the Palestinian Media Watch site - see what the Palestinian people are hearing, what they are reading and seeing (both in Gaza, and under the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank). This could be extended to the entire Muslim world.
Peace-loving voices, voices of conciliation, have no place in Islam, and are evident only by their non-existence.
Israel did, after all, open its borders to Gazan workers, allowing those who were thought to be unthreatening to seek employment and perform that work within Israel on a daily basis.
As noted by the Institute for National Security Studies, "In October 2021, as the COVID-19 pandemic ebbed, the Israeli government decided to resume Gazan employment in Israel. Currently, about 11,000 Gazan workers have entry permits and are employed informally.
In March 2022 the government decided to regulate Gazan employment in Israel and allocate 20,000 work permits to Gazans, 12,000 for the construction industry and 8,000 for agriculture. The permits are given to married Gazans aged 25 and up who have passed a security check."
This accomplished nothing.
Those who speculate, "The situation in Gaza is more complex, but, if Israel returned the West Bank [Judea - Samaria] to the Palestinians, there would be peace."
Hardly.
There are more than 500,000 Israelis currently live in the West Bank. A Palestinian state would demand that every last Jew uproot and leave. It must be Judenfrei (German for “free of Jews”). In stark contrast, there are roughly two million Arabs (pseudo Palestinians) living in Israel, enjoying a higher standard of living than is possible for them anywhere in the Arab world - If the Arabs would take them in.
Sooo, Palestinian Arabs can live in a Jewish state, but Jews cannot live in a Palestinian Arab state.
The 1948 rebirth of the State of Israel was, is, and will always be, within the entire Palestinian and Muslim-Arab world, "Al-Nakba," the Catastrophe.
This is confirmed in the chant being heard around the world: “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free.”
That would means no more Israel, even with pre-1967 borders. That is not going to happen.
That is a rejection of the 76 year old UN 1947 Plan of Partition that catapulted the rebirth of the State of Israel.
They intend that there be no homeland for the Jews.
The protesters are chanting what Muslim crowds call for, and all Palestinian sympathizers desire. "Jews, go home!"
They are home, however, — back in the Promised Land, their ancient one and only homeland. And no one can move them or force them to leave. They have come home for good. God said so.
In saying this, the struggles of the Arab pretense-Palestinian people can not be diminished. However, they knowingly set themselves up to live a lie. They are not nor have they ever been the owners of the land of
Israel, because of prior ownership.
It cannot be claimed, nor is it, that Israel has always been perfectly ethical and righteous in all its dealings with the Palestinians, or its other "neighbors."
There is no viable peace plan for Israel and the Middle East to be presented, because God has preemptively overruled it.
He wrote a book.
It is set in stone.
There is a worldwide purported belief that if Israel would only give back the territories it captured during the Six Day War in 1967, then peace would come to the Middle East. This is demonstrably false, and has been so proven by a chant now being acclaimed throughout the world: "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free."
Israel returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt in 1982 after Egypt recognized Israel as a legitimate sovereign state.
This is the strategically important land bordering Israel on the south, forming the southern border of Gaza. Even so, Israel gave that land up to Egypt for peace.
The other territories that Israel occupied after 1967 were the Gaza Strip and the "West Bank" of the Jordan, the latter is Judea and Samaria in the days of the Bible.
In 2005, Israel gave Gaza back to the Palestinians. (before the Six Day War, the Palestinians were known simply as Arabs, since there was not and had never been a Palestinian national identity, or a Palestinian government; a few of the local Arab inhabitants had remained for generations as Arabs.)
[b]In 2006, the Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas as their leadership although Hamas was explicitly formed in 1987 with the sole purpose of obliterating Israel.]/b] It is contained in their original charter.
The concept of "land for peace" is a lie on the part of the Arabs.
Israel's attempt to co-exist for 76 years with families next door who believe they have no right to be in their home or even in the land, and expressly and repeatedly state, "We will drive you out or murder you" has finally reached it's expiration date.
That’s what Israel, who drove their own settlers from the land and bulldozed their homes, in order to give it to the Arabs, has received in appreciation from them since 2006.
The refrain is now heard, "But they still deny Hamas, the elected government of Gaza, and the captives of
Hamas - the population who label themselves Palestinians, but are Arabs who migrated from neighboring lands, the right to pass freely, at will, in and out of Israel, thus restricting their access to the outside world."
True, for one reason only: Hamas has vowed to slaughter all Israelis, and Hamas rules Gaza. Does any rational person believe that Israel should or will agree to immediately remove all their defenses and open wide their borders to fanatical, merciless terrorists who wish only to annihilate them?
October 7th has just shown us the extreme and utter folly of that.
It should never be forgotten that Hamas has training camps for their children where they are taught their greatest virtue lies in becoming anti-Israel terrorists and they are given the life's goal of becoming martyrs for this cause. They are, from their earliest days, indoctrinated with hatred for Israel and the Jews. Whole families sing and dance in the streets with great joy when Hamas slaughters innocent Israelis — because in their eyes, all Israelis are vermin.
Jordanian-Palestinian businessman and politician, Talal Abu Ghazaleh, in a Lebanese television interview regarding the Gazan war on October 12th was very candid.
He said, “Israel would not sacrifice a single person. There isn’t a goal for which it would sacrifice a single person. They are afraid of death. Death for them is strange and loathsome. We, on the other hand, welcome death.
A Palestinian carries his son on his shoulders, with a headband on the kid’s forehead, which his father inscribed: ‘Martyrdom Seeker.’ This is a man who says: ‘I want my son to die.’
A Palestinian mother says: ‘I have given birth to six children, so that three could die in the revolution. I gave birth to children so that they would be martyred.’ This does not exist in the Zionist mentality.”
Their inspiration, taken straight from the words of the Qur'an, is the motivation of all of Israel's Muslim enemies.
When the interviewer referenced “the multitudes of innocent civilian victims [in Gaza],” he replied, “How many? Two thousand? The casualties always accumulate, unfortunately... Fine.
How many people did Russia sacrifice in its war against the Nazis? Twenty-seven million. Not just a thousand ...
We haven't gotten to thousands yet. Russia knowingly sacrificed those people. It was no coincidence. It is not that Russia did not know that these people were going to die. It wanted 27 million people to die so that Russia survives. We, Palestinians, are the same.
There are two million people [in Gaza]. If one dies ... I hope I will be one of them. It would be an honor to die as a martyr. But there are two million people in Gaza. Will [Israel] kill two million people? How? Half of them are hidden underground, in tunnels.”
And this was just a casual TV interview, with two people talking about Israel’s war with Hamas.
Abu Ghazaleh also explained, "You cannot defeat someone who wants to die. People who flee from death cannot defeat people who seek death. What happened in Germany in the World War? Entire cities were destroyed. But didn't Germany become later one of the five most wealthy countries in the world? Let them destroy [Gaza]. What is destroyed can be rebuilt. I think that the goal of Hamas's lions of humanity was to cause the demolition of those buildings so that they could be rebuilt properly, according to more aesthetic and newer engineering standards.”
"As to why Hitler only slaughtered 6 million out of 9 million European Jews, it was because he wanted to leave some alive so everyone could realize why he did what he did."
================================
Anyone who thinks that Israel returning to pre-1967 borders would eliminate these fourteen centuries old sentiments should spend a few hours on the Memri TV website, watching these clips. Read the quotes on the Palestinian Media Watch site - see what the Palestinian people are hearing, what they are reading and seeing (both in Gaza, and under the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank). This could be extended to the entire Muslim world.
Peace-loving voices, voices of conciliation, have no place in Islam, and are evident only by their non-existence.
Israel did, after all, open its borders to Gazan workers, allowing those who were thought to be unthreatening to seek employment and perform that work within Israel on a daily basis.
As noted by the Institute for National Security Studies, "In October 2021, as the COVID-19 pandemic ebbed, the Israeli government decided to resume Gazan employment in Israel. Currently, about 11,000 Gazan workers have entry permits and are employed informally.
In March 2022 the government decided to regulate Gazan employment in Israel and allocate 20,000 work permits to Gazans, 12,000 for the construction industry and 8,000 for agriculture. The permits are given to married Gazans aged 25 and up who have passed a security check."
This accomplished nothing.
Those who speculate, "The situation in Gaza is more complex, but, if Israel returned the West Bank [Judea - Samaria] to the Palestinians, there would be peace."
Hardly.
There are more than 500,000 Israelis currently live in the West Bank. A Palestinian state would demand that every last Jew uproot and leave. It must be Judenfrei (German for “free of Jews”). In stark contrast, there are roughly two million Arabs (pseudo Palestinians) living in Israel, enjoying a higher standard of living than is possible for them anywhere in the Arab world - If the Arabs would take them in.
Sooo, Palestinian Arabs can live in a Jewish state, but Jews cannot live in a Palestinian Arab state.
The 1948 rebirth of the State of Israel was, is, and will always be, within the entire Palestinian and Muslim-Arab world, "Al-Nakba," the Catastrophe.
This is confirmed in the chant being heard around the world: “From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be free.”
That would means no more Israel, even with pre-1967 borders. That is not going to happen.
That is a rejection of the 76 year old UN 1947 Plan of Partition that catapulted the rebirth of the State of Israel.
They intend that there be no homeland for the Jews.
The protesters are chanting what Muslim crowds call for, and all Palestinian sympathizers desire. "Jews, go home!"
They are home, however, — back in the Promised Land, their ancient one and only homeland. And no one can move them or force them to leave. They have come home for good. God said so.
In saying this, the struggles of the Arab pretense-Palestinian people can not be diminished. However, they knowingly set themselves up to live a lie. They are not nor have they ever been the owners of the land of
Israel, because of prior ownership.
It cannot be claimed, nor is it, that Israel has always been perfectly ethical and righteous in all its dealings with the Palestinians, or its other "neighbors."
There is no viable peace plan for Israel and the Middle East to be presented, because God has preemptively overruled it.
He wrote a book.
It is set in stone.
Oct 20, 2023 02:07:53 #
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Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Where'd they get the bomb with that sort of power???
And why haven't they used it against Israel???
And why haven't they used it against Israel???
The hospital wasn't hit by a bomb, but by a wayward Hamas rocket. It has been verified that the damage was far less than they propagandized, and the casualties far fewer.
Hamas Headquarters is beneath the hospital, bunkered in, as is all their infrastructure of war; beneath schools, beneath mosques, beneath all Health facilities through Gaza, with elaborate tunnels between and connecting them.
https://ijr.com/israel-releases-audio-hamas-terrorists-realizing-gaza-hospital-hit-friendly-fire-us/
Israel Releases Audio of Hamas Terrorists Realizing Gaza Hospital Was Hit by Friendly Fire: 'It's From Us?'
By Jack Davis, Western Journal
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https://www.nydailynews.com/2023/10/19/truth-and-consequences-terrorists-not-israel-caused-the-gaza-hospital-explosion/
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Truth and consequences: Terrorists, not Israel, caused the Gaza hospital explosion
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-on-palestinian-rocket-hitting-hospital-not-israelis-terrorists-gotta-learn-how-to-shoot-straight/ar-AA1ivIiE
Biden on Palestinian Rocket Hitting Hospital, Not Israelis: Terrorists 'Gotta Learn How to Shoot Straight'
Story by C. Douglas Golden • 16h
Oct 18, 2023 03:23:42 #
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Blade_Runner wrote:
Peace is that brief glorious moment when everyone stands around reloading.
Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson
That is profound!
Oct 18, 2023 00:08:33 #
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proud republican wrote:
https://nypost.com/2023/10/15/biden-says-israel-should-not-occupy-gaza-amid-expected-invasion-big-mistake/
Biden is betraying Israel, and the United States will experience the wrath of God because of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwPA57xOXA
Check out topic: Racism is cropping up in the strangest places
Oct 18, 2023 00:02:17 #
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The O'Biden regime is about to betray Israel.
He is coming to Israel on Wednesday as a spokesman for Hamas.
"Antony Blinken returns while Israeli troops sit on the Gaza border, President Biden handicaps Israel's security and the world continues to turn a blind eye to Hamas' atrocities and corruption."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwPA57xOXA
Journalist and author Caroline Glick breaks down the news and explains the real reason Biden is in Israel.
He is coming to Israel on Wednesday as a spokesman for Hamas.
"Antony Blinken returns while Israeli troops sit on the Gaza border, President Biden handicaps Israel's security and the world continues to turn a blind eye to Hamas' atrocities and corruption."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwPA57xOXA
Journalist and author Caroline Glick breaks down the news and explains the real reason Biden is in Israel.
Oct 17, 2023 23:55:08 #
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Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
But I won't hold my breath 
Biden betrayal of Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xwPA57xOXA
It would be even nicer if we could trust the lying leaders of our country.
Oct 16, 2023 06:56:08 #
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Wolf, your eloquence on this forum is unsurpassed.
I reluctantly came to this same conclusion.
The Israeli government, over the last ten months, has been so preoccupied with their uncivil warring over the final form of the Israeli Supreme Court, they neglected the basics, - to their great sorrow, and their citizen's demise.
I reluctantly came to this same conclusion.
The Israeli government, over the last ten months, has been so preoccupied with their uncivil warring over the final form of the Israeli Supreme Court, they neglected the basics, - to their great sorrow, and their citizen's demise.
Wolf counselor wrote:
The enemy outsmarted the Jew's leaders and that's ... (show quote)
Oct 16, 2023 05:47:51 #
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This is well thought out, and well written, Parky, and well detailed with factual, accurate information for anyone with eyes that are willing to see.
In a world culture that has ever increasingly given itself over to bypassing the mind, and reacting rather to emotions and "feeling," rather than thinking, it is difficult to make any inroads, but every serious attempt helps.
Addendum: The following information concerns DNA testing that disassociates the ancient Philistines from the modern Arabs now claiming to be Palestinian:
DNA showed ancient Philistines were European, and are unrelated to the Arab "Palestinians" of today who have tried to claim them as Ancestors.
A DNA discovery in Israel had implications for the political struggle between Israelis and Palestinians. In 2016, archaeologists digging in Israel excavated a Philistine cemetery for the first time ever. In July, 2019, an extensive report on the DNA taken from the bones they uncovered confirmed the origins of the Philistines – one of the arch-enemies of the biblical Israelites.
"They demonstrated that the Philistines were immigrants to the region of Philistia,” according to the Leon Levy Expedition to Ashkelon.
State-of-the-art DNA testing on the ancient Philistine bones showed they had European ancestry and migrated across the Mediterranean more than 3,000 years ago.
“In the thirteenth and twelfth-century empires collapsed, much of civilization collapsed. One of the groups that people noticed a hundred years later were the Philistines,” Master said, "DNA tests confirmed what they already believed."
“From the early 20th century people noticed that the styles of pottery they were finding in the area called ‘Philistia’ by the writers of the Hebrew Bible were similar to pottery found in Greece just a hundred years earlier and people started to draw the connection that perhaps this pottery indicated some connection between these two groups of people,” he said.
The coastal region known as Gaza was settled by the Philistines before becoming part of the territory apportioned to Judah (see map). Gaza, or Azza in Hebrew, was a city on the southern coastal plain of Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel, today Medinat Yisrael, or the modern nation State of Israel.
Ashkelon was one of five large Philistine cities. The Philistines lived there for about only about 600 years.
“The Philistines appear in the Hebrew Bible as one of the great enemies of the Israelites but where did they come from? In the Bible there’s a mention that the Philistines came from Caphtor. This is a mention in Amos many centuries after we think the Philistines arrive. This place was probably related to Crete,” Master said.
In Biblical times, God gave this Holy Land as an eternal covenant that can never be broken to the Children of Israel (the descendants of Jacob). Contested by Arabs, the deed of trust to Israel is documented in the Bible: Gaza was captured and conquered by the tribe of Judah: “Also Judah took Gaza with the regions thereof, and Ashkelon with the regions thereof, and Ekron with the region thereof.” (Judges 1:18), and it was included in the allotment to Judah’s tribe (see Joshua 15:47).
Here are a couple of other Scriptures that mention this troubled area on the coastline:
“The Philistines took [Samson], and put out his eyes, and brought him down to Gaza.” (Judges 16:21)
“[Hezekiah of Judah] smote the Philistines even unto Gaza …” (2 Kings. 18:8)
But if Palestinians were not always on the land as Islamic scholars allege, but were merely immigrants to the region from Europe, their claim to of “return” and their goal to expel Jews from modern-day Israel is baseless.
The cemetery, discovered in 2013, is dated from the 11th to the 8th century BC.
“How do we tell the story of the people who can’t speak for themselves, that haven’t left behind written texts? We can look at the scraps and the garbage that they’ve left behind, we can look at what other people said about them during the time period but the DNA actually gave us the opportunity to let these people speak for themselves,” said archaeologist Adam Aja, Assistant Curator of Collections at Harvard Semitic Museum and one of the archaeologists at the Philistine cemetery.
Aja said the DNA showed that even though the Philistines kept their culture physically, genetically they eventually blended with the locals.
“But the discovery of the cemetery and the analysis of the bones definitively revealed that this population came from away and then slowly integrated into the local population.” Aja said.
The Philistines then disappeared during the 6th century BC when the biblical King Nebuchadnezzar conquered the region. He destroyed Ashkelon and other cities at the time shortly before the Judeans were exiled to Babylon as described in the Bible.
After Rome renamed to Palestine the conquered area previously ruled by the Jews, all residents of the area were referred to as Palestinians - Jews, and later Christians, and after 600 C.E - the Arabs.
Even during the 1940s, before Israel’s independence, Jews considered themselves Palestinians. It was not until 1948 and the war of independence, that Arabs in the area appropriated the name exclusively for themselves and created the myth of “Palestinian refugees” that lingers today in politics, the media and most importantly, Middle East peace plans.
The DNA revelations are a problem for many Arab leaders, but especially the terrorist groups of Hamas which controls modern-day Gaza. If Palestinians have no valid historical claim of always have lived in the land, why is the conflict between Jews and Palestinians allowed to continue at great cost?
That is the question many asked after these 2019 discoveries.
In a world culture that has ever increasingly given itself over to bypassing the mind, and reacting rather to emotions and "feeling," rather than thinking, it is difficult to make any inroads, but every serious attempt helps.
Addendum: The following information concerns DNA testing that disassociates the ancient Philistines from the modern Arabs now claiming to be Palestinian:
DNA showed ancient Philistines were European, and are unrelated to the Arab "Palestinians" of today who have tried to claim them as Ancestors.
A DNA discovery in Israel had implications for the political struggle between Israelis and Palestinians. In 2016, archaeologists digging in Israel excavated a Philistine cemetery for the first time ever. In July, 2019, an extensive report on the DNA taken from the bones they uncovered confirmed the origins of the Philistines – one of the arch-enemies of the biblical Israelites.
"They demonstrated that the Philistines were immigrants to the region of Philistia,” according to the Leon Levy Expedition to Ashkelon.
State-of-the-art DNA testing on the ancient Philistine bones showed they had European ancestry and migrated across the Mediterranean more than 3,000 years ago.
“In the thirteenth and twelfth-century empires collapsed, much of civilization collapsed. One of the groups that people noticed a hundred years later were the Philistines,” Master said, "DNA tests confirmed what they already believed."
“From the early 20th century people noticed that the styles of pottery they were finding in the area called ‘Philistia’ by the writers of the Hebrew Bible were similar to pottery found in Greece just a hundred years earlier and people started to draw the connection that perhaps this pottery indicated some connection between these two groups of people,” he said.
The coastal region known as Gaza was settled by the Philistines before becoming part of the territory apportioned to Judah (see map). Gaza, or Azza in Hebrew, was a city on the southern coastal plain of Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel, today Medinat Yisrael, or the modern nation State of Israel.
Ashkelon was one of five large Philistine cities. The Philistines lived there for about only about 600 years.
“The Philistines appear in the Hebrew Bible as one of the great enemies of the Israelites but where did they come from? In the Bible there’s a mention that the Philistines came from Caphtor. This is a mention in Amos many centuries after we think the Philistines arrive. This place was probably related to Crete,” Master said.
In Biblical times, God gave this Holy Land as an eternal covenant that can never be broken to the Children of Israel (the descendants of Jacob). Contested by Arabs, the deed of trust to Israel is documented in the Bible: Gaza was captured and conquered by the tribe of Judah: “Also Judah took Gaza with the regions thereof, and Ashkelon with the regions thereof, and Ekron with the region thereof.” (Judges 1:18), and it was included in the allotment to Judah’s tribe (see Joshua 15:47).
Here are a couple of other Scriptures that mention this troubled area on the coastline:
“The Philistines took [Samson], and put out his eyes, and brought him down to Gaza.” (Judges 16:21)
“[Hezekiah of Judah] smote the Philistines even unto Gaza …” (2 Kings. 18:8)
But if Palestinians were not always on the land as Islamic scholars allege, but were merely immigrants to the region from Europe, their claim to of “return” and their goal to expel Jews from modern-day Israel is baseless.
The cemetery, discovered in 2013, is dated from the 11th to the 8th century BC.
“How do we tell the story of the people who can’t speak for themselves, that haven’t left behind written texts? We can look at the scraps and the garbage that they’ve left behind, we can look at what other people said about them during the time period but the DNA actually gave us the opportunity to let these people speak for themselves,” said archaeologist Adam Aja, Assistant Curator of Collections at Harvard Semitic Museum and one of the archaeologists at the Philistine cemetery.
Aja said the DNA showed that even though the Philistines kept their culture physically, genetically they eventually blended with the locals.
“But the discovery of the cemetery and the analysis of the bones definitively revealed that this population came from away and then slowly integrated into the local population.” Aja said.
The Philistines then disappeared during the 6th century BC when the biblical King Nebuchadnezzar conquered the region. He destroyed Ashkelon and other cities at the time shortly before the Judeans were exiled to Babylon as described in the Bible.
After Rome renamed to Palestine the conquered area previously ruled by the Jews, all residents of the area were referred to as Palestinians - Jews, and later Christians, and after 600 C.E - the Arabs.
Even during the 1940s, before Israel’s independence, Jews considered themselves Palestinians. It was not until 1948 and the war of independence, that Arabs in the area appropriated the name exclusively for themselves and created the myth of “Palestinian refugees” that lingers today in politics, the media and most importantly, Middle East peace plans.
The DNA revelations are a problem for many Arab leaders, but especially the terrorist groups of Hamas which controls modern-day Gaza. If Palestinians have no valid historical claim of always have lived in the land, why is the conflict between Jews and Palestinians allowed to continue at great cost?
That is the question many asked after these 2019 discoveries.
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