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Sep 14, 2015 09:17:03   #
GrampaG wrote:
So is this Jesse Ventura, really??? Come on!!


The sites list thousands of citizens from many countries who have the courage to speak out for the truth.

You would rather accept the lies.
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Sep 14, 2015 09:14:27   #
larry wrote:
Every one benefits from fossil fuel. But it will eventually run out, and then we will devise another way to keep ourselves from freezing and migrating. What say we all stop breathing, that will reduce the CO2.


We will stop breathing if we don't cut CO2 emissions.
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Sep 14, 2015 09:09:28   #
emarine wrote:
Larry... is this the best you can do? If there was any and I mean any... creditable evidence of foul play about 911 the insurance company would not pay the claim... and you can take that to the bank... although your thoughts would make a better movie...


Most likely the insurance companies were in on the deal and reimbursed from the $trillions missing from the Pentagon.
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Sep 14, 2015 09:04:42   #
archie bunker wrote:
Yeah, you are a smart guy! You know shit because you read about it. I got it professor.


I can figure out what makes sense.

I see you're in Texas. Are you employed by Turner Construction Company who is headquartered in Texas?

"Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001. A December 2000 WTC property assessment described required renovation work to be completed within one year, upon steel columns within elevator shafts of both WTC towers that was immediately pending or already underway."

http://911blogger.com/node/19889
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Sep 14, 2015 08:52:47   #
4430 wrote:
Difference in construction !


Steel framework is steel framework. It reacts to fire in the same manner. The North Tower caught fire on the 11th floor in 1975 and burned twice as long as on 9/11. The steel wasn't damaged and needed no replacement.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc_1975_fire.html
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Sep 14, 2015 08:49:30   #
Blade_Runner wrote:
I see you've been granted another furlough from the asylum. What was it this time? Good behavior? BJs? Or, were the staff just really tired of your bullsh!t?

Anyone with an elementary study of physics understands that an increase in pressure results in temperature (energy) increase. The potential energy contained in one tower (600,000 tons) was enormous.

The gravitational potential energy of an object is the energy it takes to raise it to a certain height, or the energy obtained by letting it fall. The formula is U = mgh. U is the standard symbol for potential energy, m is mass in kilograms, g is the gravitational acceleration of the earth and h is the height in meters. Energy is in joules. One watt is one joule per second, and a joule is roughly the energy needed to raise one pound one foot.

For the World Trade Centers, the towers were 400 meters high and their mass was 600,000 tons or 600 million kilograms. So the total gravitational potential energy in one tower was 6 x 108 kg x 9.8 m/sec2 x 400 m x 1/2. The factor of 1/2 comes from the fact that some mass fell 400 meters and some fell only a short distance, and the overall result is as if it all fell the average distance. So we have U = 1.2 x 1012 joules. A kiloton is 4.2 x 1012 joules, so the gravitational potential energy is about a quarter of a kiloton or 280 tons of high explosive, per tower.

The planes that hit the towers were Boeing 767-200's, with a loaded mass of about 140,000 kg. They impacted at about 600 km/hour or 167 m/sec. So their kinetic energy was K = 1/2 mv2 = 1/2 x 140,000 x 1672 = 2 x 109 joules.

The basic 767-200 has a fuel capacity of 63,000 liters, and accounting for fuel burned before impact, call it 50,000 liters. Jet fuel has an energy content of about 35 million joules per liter. So the energy content of the fuel on each plane was 1.75 x 1012 joules or about 0.4 kiloton. An appreciable amount of that energy would have been released explosively, the rest during the fires following impact.

The energy from the collapse of one tower would have been roughly equivalent to a magnitude 3.5+ earthquake and the energy from the plane impacts somewhat less, depending on how much fuel exploded on impact. The impacts of the planes themselves would have been only a small part of the total energy released. The actual observed magnitudes were less because not all the energy was converted into seismic waves.


Stands to reason that as the kinetic energy in the mass of the tower as it accelerated during collapse would generate temperatures far above the melting temps of steel. Not a "normal fire" by any stretch.

"Thermite"? "Missiles"? "Mini-nukes"? "UFOs and Death Rays"? "Cosmic vibrations"? "Black holes"? Or, is this all the SciFi fanaticism of a little boy trapped in a man's body whose mommy never breast fed him?
I see you've been granted another furlough from th... (show quote)


I must assume from your absence of any knowledge of the laws of science and physics that you are still breast feeding.
Steel framed skyscrapers cannot fall through the resistance that has held them up for over half a century at free fall speed. Three steel-framed skyscrapers cannot fall from fire damage on the same day when none have in the 100-year history of skyscrapers. Watch this video and tell me where you see any fire as the Tower comes down?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc
Multiple and rapid explosions are visible but no fire to be seen anywhere.
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Sep 14, 2015 08:29:43   #
tdsrnest wrote:
Steel will bend and deform when under a load at 400 degrees. So stop the foolish talk your better off sticking to your IRS scandal and that was great we spent $28 million tax payer $ to find out that Lois Learner was a democrat.


Why did all the steel-framed skyscrapers which burned much longer and much hotter remain standing?






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Sep 13, 2015 20:55:39   #
gynojunkie wrote:
Jet fuel burns off at 1,472 degrees F.
Steel beams reach melting point at 2,750 degrees F.

Even with other combustibles present in the building, there is no way possible for the steel cores to all grab enough heat from the burning materials on the upper floors to heat the thousands of tons of steel beams to melting point.

The scientific method requires a new theory when the old theory fits NOTHING but the desires of the FEDGOV to obfuscate the truth.


Here's some other questions to ponder:


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Sep 13, 2015 20:54:15   #
archie bunker wrote:
Yeah.....I lie about everything.


I already knew that.
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Sep 13, 2015 20:53:00   #
emarine wrote:
Not sure Larry... but if you made any comments or offered personal opinion or theory ... I bet you used either Zionists , Jews or both that caused the problem


If Zionist trolls such as yourself replied with the usual insults, I may have been inspired to inform them of the evidence against Israel and Zionists. This is the evidence I'm talking about:

1. Zionist Larry Silverstein leased the World Trade Towers only weeks before the attacks. He insured them for terrorist attacks and attempted to collect double claiming there were two attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

2. Silverstein collected over $4 billion in insurance payments on an investment of less than $120 million.
http://911review.com/attack/wtc/index.html

3. Silverstein normally had breakfast every day in a restaurant at the top of one of the towers. His son and daughter also worked in one of the towers. All three found reasons not to go to work on 9/11. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm0PxzdHhPc

4. Silverstein said in a PBS filmed interview that he and the NYC fire dept decided to "pull" building 7 on the afternoon of 9/11. Wiring for explosive demolition takes weeks if not months. Why would the building which offices CIA, Secret Service, Guiliani's Office of Emergency Management and IRS be pre-wired for demolition? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

Silverstein refuses to identify the fire chief he claims he talked to about "pulling" the building.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p34XrI2Fm6I

5. Silverstein was close friends with Ariel Sharon, Bibi Netanyahu and Ehud Barack.
http://iamthewitness.com/haaretzdaily-Up-in-smoke.html
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/larry-silverstein-was-close-friends-netanyahu-sharon-barak
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

6. Five Israelis were arrested after filming and celebrating the towers coming down. FBI interrogation revealed they were Mossad agents. They were deported and one of them later said in a TV interview that they were there to film the event. Therefore, they knew well ahead of time that it was going to happen. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw

7. Hundreds of Israeli spies were rounded up and deported right after 9/11. Many of them were posing as art students in the area where the alleged hijackers were training in Florida.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkQddEDPs0

8. $2.3 trillion was announced missing from Pentagon accounting while Bush appointee Dov Zakheim was in charge of Pentagon accounting. The missing funds were announced by Donald Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and totally forgotten in the turmoil after 9/11.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpSBUgbxBU

9. Dov Zakheim is a Zionist and a dual U.S./Israel citizen. Before being appointed Pentagon CFO, Zakheim was CEO of SPS International, part of System Planning Corporation, a defense contractor majoring in electronic warfare technologies, including remote-controlled aircraft systems, and the notorious Flight Termination System (FTS) technology that could hijack even a hijacked plane and land or crash it wherever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXLmAiNYRoE

10. Zakheim sent 32 767s to Florida in 2001 to be converted to refueling tankers. 767s are the same type planes that hit Towers I and II.
http://911review.org/brad.com/batcave/Dov_Zakheim_911.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/153527/dov-zakheim-and-911-from-freedom-of-information-act-request

11. Many of the members of PNAC who signed the letter describing the need for a new Pearl Harbor were Zionists including Dov Zakheim, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Elliot Abrams, Scooter Libby and William Kristol.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/nc-pilger.html

12. Zim American Israel Shipping, half owned by Israel, moved out of one of the Trade Towers two weeks before the attacks, forfeiting $50,000 on their lease.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/02/21/zim-shipping-evidence-they-knew-911-was-coming/

13. Odigo, an Israeli company with offices in one of the towers received warnings to stay away on 9/11.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579

14. Jewish-controlled mainstream media covered up the fact that the towers were blown up. All MSM news censored all the news reports that were shown on TV that day reporting bombs going off in all three towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKfzGt6Fxk
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Sep 13, 2015 20:48:29   #
archie bunker wrote:
I have melted steel in a coal forge in my barn. I didn't need a nuke...just a bitchy wife who caused me to walk away for too long!


Archie, you're lying.
Do you lie about everything?
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Sep 13, 2015 20:44:55   #
America Only wrote:
Not gonna argue..I have built large buildings and no matter what you or any other nut says, STEEL has a flash point when hot enough. How the hell you think steel is made? You think steel comes from the cabbage patch by magic?

The biggest FAIL by all these whacky idiots is, there was never a test done on a same size building to use as a model to know what it could or could not withstand. If you watch the one jet hit, the other side of the building just SHOOTS out from the impact. I am actually surprised the building did not collapse sooner after the impact!
Not gonna argue..I have built large buildings and ... (show quote)


Steel is made in a Blast Furnace. Steel cannot be melted by normal fire. If it could all your pots and pans would be melted on your stovetop. Aluminum melts at about 600 degrees lower than steel. Normal fire won't even melt aluminum.

The comment you replied to was about WTC7 which wasn't hit by a plane. A BBC reporter announced WTC7 had fallen 20 minutes before it actually happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltP2t9nq9fI
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Sep 13, 2015 20:31:42   #
tdsrnest wrote:
Not true your talking about the steel melting you Moron. When steel is heated it will bend and distort and weaken . Did you see and melted steel at the trade cente.


Yes, there was melted steel at WTC. Since normal fires can't melt steel, that indicates either thermite or mini nukes melted the steel. The steel wasn't the only thing melted. The entire concrete foundation of the towers was melted to the point it looked like a lava flow.


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Sep 13, 2015 20:25:33   #
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Hey, Payne, you forgot to add that ENRON was under an investigation by the CIA which was being conducted in Building #7 at the World Trade Center.

You forgot to mention that ENRON had Al Qaeda on its payroll while building a pipeline through Afghanistan.

Do you recall that Ken Lay, CEO of ENRON, was the child of a Christian minister, and ENRON was financially funded by the OPIC (Overseas Pacific Investment Corporation) to the tune of $4 billion under Bill Clinton's administration?

Would you please go to the public library and read some history?
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If Enron built a pipeline through Afghanistan, when did they do that? Was it during the Russian Afghanistan war or the U.S. Afghanistan war? Would you give readers a source on that information?
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Sep 13, 2015 18:19:25   #
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Fine. When it comes to survival, you and I and all the rest of humanity must fully learn how the universe is structured, its cycles, its changes, and how sovereign man must control his environment and himself to be free from state serfdom and servitude, then you might experience a rude awakening.

In the process, if you recognize that this grand design has an "Intelligent Designer" - may the Force Be With You :)


Freedom of "state serfdom and servitude" is what we should work to maintain.

Insuring freedom from Zionism is the most important battle we patriots face.
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