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Sep 16, 2015 10:17:42   #
vernon wrote:
there is no such thing as palastinians they are just arabs who by the way were killed by the thousands by syria and jordan


"just Arabs"? Your racism is showing, Vernon.
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Sep 16, 2015 10:14:22   #
vernon wrote:
i dont care what they say LOOK at the film.


The videos show multiple explosions which pulverize the concrete floors and hurl thousands of tons of steel hundreds of feet outward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUDoGuLpirc
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Sep 16, 2015 10:09:31   #
emarine wrote:
In reality the only time that firemen were in elevators in WTC 2 was before the plane hit... then Larry is correct... but in reality what does that matter?


The dialogue from the firefighters' radio communications reveals that they were trying to use the elevators. This was after the plane hit the South Tower (WTC2) This was also after the firefighters had time to reach the 78th floor where the plane hit the tower. The important thing which you are attempting to confuse is that there were no significant fires in any of the lower 78 floors which would weaken the structure.
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Sep 16, 2015 10:01:52   #
vernon wrote:
the weight from above ,it was just a pancake effect.


NIST denies the pancake theory:

"NIST’s findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC towers (the composite floor system—that connected the core columns and the perimeter columns—consisted of a grid of steel “trusses” integrated with a concrete slab; see diagram). Instead, the NIST investigation showed conclusively that the failure of the inwardly bowed perimeter columns initiated collapse and that the occurrence of this inward bowing required the sagging floors to remain connected to the columns and pull the columns inwards. Thus, the floors did not fail progressively to cause a pancaking phenomenon."
http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm

Unfortunately for NIST, their later analysis made even less sense.
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Sep 16, 2015 09:54:37   #
vernon wrote:
you seem to think isreal is our enemy.now are you a nazi or just hate jews.


Aren't enemies defined by whether they attack the U.S. or not?

Israel: 3 attacks on the U.S.
Iran: 0 attacks on the U.S.
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Sep 16, 2015 09:48:12   #
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Very simple. He is a American historian well versed in the Holocaust and has done much for exposing the international entanglements of German, Russian, European, Middle Eastern and American dangerous alliances that lead up to WWII and after. Go to Amazon.com and look up his booklist.


From what I've seen of Loftus so far, he appears to be a Zionist propagandist. Zionists have controlled what is written in history books in order to create a very lucrative "Holocaust Industry."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRIsuvT0EkA
Zionists possibly rewarded Loftus with the presidency of the Holocaust Museum.
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Sep 16, 2015 09:25:44   #
America Only wrote:
Lets try a mini nuke out...come on over, bend over, we can shove on half foot up in ya....Muslim Moe...alias PAYNE......


Crudity is your substitute for lack of intellect.
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Sep 16, 2015 08:59:18   #
Grugore wrote:
Wrong again, Skippy. Iran attacked our embassy. That is considered American soil. So, yes. They attacked us.


The U.S. does not own the property on which our embassies are built.
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Sep 16, 2015 08:40:54   #
emarine wrote:
so you want to know the real truth..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoyahR-rp_I :D


Here's the real truth from three very experienced points of view:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=71c_1311362426

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRaezLTU2a0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMYzwf01Z7I
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Sep 16, 2015 08:36:48   #
Grugore wrote:
What is truth?


Truth in this case is what actually happened as opposed to the lies we have been told for 14 years.
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Sep 16, 2015 08:34:39   #
padremike wrote:
I think I'm beginning to understand the source of your conditioning. You've been attending the Obama hate America and hate Israel schools of radical and illogical reasoning. Some folks, unfortunately, do not possess a reset switch. Sorry. You will go to your grave running around in small circles just to prove you're not square.


To be more accurate, Israel has attacked us 3 times if the Lavon Affair is added to the list. The Lavon affair was when Israel hired Jews in Egypt to blow up U.S. embassy facilities in Egypt which they planned to blame on Egypt. The attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was also a false flag attack which Israel hoped to blame on Egypt. Unfortunately for Israel, they failed in their attempt to sink the ship and kill everyone aboard. The subject of this topic is the third attack on the U.S. by Israeli operatives.
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Sep 16, 2015 08:10:15   #
emarine wrote:
Na Larry... just proves how bent you are...
why is it that the most uninformed come here to inform us? ... otherwise you dispute the worst elevator disaster in recorded history.... So you did make the alien Lizard shape shifter movie... you should stick with Sci fi ,some of your better work no doubt...

your quote from above....
"This conversation proves there were no fires in the lower floors and the fact that the firefighters were attempting to use the elevators proves there were no fires in the elevators.
Readers should know by now who conducts themselves more like an alien lizard, emarine. Let's see that forked tongue again"


Estimated 200 people die in Twin Towers elevators, 2001

In what is understood to be the worst elevator disaster of all time, an estimated 200 people died in elevators in the World Trade Center buildings on Sept. 11, 2001. Elevators plummeted once the buildings were hit, and balls of fire tore through shafts after the impact. USA Today reported in 2002 that it had identified about 100 people who had escaped from elevators that they pried open or whose doors were just opening as one of the planes hit. The paper said, however, that it could not ID any survivors who were rescued from stuck elevators


from my link...

In one way, the elevators played a heroic role that morning. They helped thousands evacuate the south tower before the second jet hit. But the elevator shafts also became the circulation system of the disaster, carrying death and destruction throughout the towers.

Elevator shafts worked like chimneys, funneling unbearable smoke to floors above the crashes. The shafts also channeled burning jet fuel throughout both towers. Fire moved not only up and down but also side to side, from shaft to shaft, unleashing explosions in elevator lobbies and in restrooms next to the shafts.

Admit it Larry.... you are the creator of the Alien Lizard Shape shifting Jews control the world video... the 911 part proves it... its all you fella
Na Larry... just proves how bent you are... br ... (show quote)


You use only one article from the controlled media to back up your argument. You do not explain how firefighters could make it to the 78th floor of the South Tower if there were fires hot enough to melt steel in those floors. Your forked tongue is visible once more.
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Sep 15, 2015 20:10:52   #
emarine wrote:
Does it Larry...
the elevators first hand....

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/sept11/2002-09-04-elevator-usat_x.htm


There were many elevators and 3 stairways ... The fire consumed stairway C and most all the elevators... any fire fighter can tell you that fires go out and flair back up unpredictably... if you open the wrong door a room can burst into flames at anytime...

One stairway in the south tower remained open above the crash, but few used it to escape. Stairway A, one of three, was unobstructed from top to bottom. The jet crashed into the 78th through 84th floors of the south tower. A few people escaped from the 78th floor down these stairs. One person went down the stairs from the 81st floor, two from the 84th floor and one from the 91st. Others went up these stairs in search of a helicopter rescue that wasn't possible because of heavy smoke on the rooftop.
Does it Larry... br the elevators first hand... (show quote)


The airliner which hit the South Tower sliced through a corner of the Tower. The elevator core is in the center of the tower. The plane would not have penetrated the elevator shafts. Most of the fuel from Flight 175 burned up in the air outside the tower.

Firemen reached the 78th floor. That would indicate there were no serious fires below the 78th floor and it would prove that the 78 lower floors were not weakened by fire.

If those floors were not weakened by fire, how did they collapse to the ground in just over 15 seconds?
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Sep 15, 2015 20:00:16   #
vernon wrote:
thats a lie.


Prove it, vernon.
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Sep 15, 2015 19:58:48   #
Grugore wrote:
CONFIRMED! Congratulations. You are a certified idiot. I could point out how Iran is the worlds biggest sponsor of global terrorism. I could point out how many Americans died as a result. Iran chants "DEATH TO AMERICA" and you want them to have NUKES? Yeah. It all just bounces off of your impenetrable armor of ignorance. You're way too stupid to live.


Let me say again, Iran has never attacked America.
Israel has--twice.
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