Blade_Runner wrote:
Well, dang. If you can't comprehend simple English in a short forum post, how the hell can anything you post be credible? Full of sh!t doesn't even come close to defining your idiocy. That's not an insult, it's a fact.
You have failed completely to understand the chemistry and physics of mass, weight, kinetic energy, temperature, pressure, thermodynamics, seismology, gravity, metallurgy, structural engineering, architecture--not to mention firefighting and rescue operations. Yours is an entirely politically driven agenda that has nothing to do with the reality of 9/11.
FYI: Being a military history buff all my life, I am well read on the Manhattan Project. One of the best books on the subject is "The Making of the Atomic Bomb", by Richard Rhodes. Extraordinary historical treatise. This work includes technical and scientific data on the processes, construction, and detonation of nuclear devices (atomic bombs) Even a nuclear weapon the size of a golf ball would generate temperatures and radiation far above anything occurring on 9/11.
Any attempt to compare the Manhattan Project with the attacks on 9/11 is a total disconnect. Shame on you.
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There are over 2,000
professional Engineers and Architects who contradict everything you have posted on this thread. So it appears you are the one who is "full of shit."
There are many thousands more high-level professionals who agree with me.
http://www.ae911truth.org/
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
http://911scholars.org/
http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/
http://web.archive.org/web/20110911032318/firefightersfor911truth.org/
http://mp911truth.org/
http://www.mo911truth.org/
http://www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org/
http://www.whodidit.org/
http://patriotsquestion911.com/
http://www.mujca.com/
By the way, you fail to mention that the massive Manhattan Project was kept secret from the public.
Liberty Tree wrote:
The more you post the more your true colors are exposed.
Repeated insults instead of rebutting the topic is the most common tactic of a troll. You continue to reinforce my assessment of your agenda.
gynojunkie wrote:
Astonishing that there are so many who will automatically reject anything other than the FedGov version of these virtually inexplicable events.
So many are willing to accept physically improbable/impossible explanations for what they have witnessed. Such automatic belief in a government that has never told the truth about much of anything--and hides everything it can under the guises of "national security" and "need to know only"--is incomprehensible to me.
Thousands of airline pilots with hundreds of millions of miles of collective experience in large jetliners have signed statements that they lacked the skills to have been able to pilot those planes into the towers. But no one listens to them (I guess that they don't know what they are doing! Such an unintelligent bunch, those senior airline pilots. What do they know, anyway, right)?
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Rejecting the truth is one thing. Making up deliberate lies to defend the government lies is another.
I'm convinced that many of those on this thread who show up on every thread about 9/11 are trolls. emarine and blade runner lead the pack.
PoppaGringo wrote:
The most dangerous people in the world are those with painful1000's thinking.
No . . . the really dangerous people are of your ilk--unable to think at all.
Liberty Tree wrote:
You pretend to espouse the one to cover up the fact that you are really the other.
You're acting more and more like a Zionist troll.
Liberty Tree wrote:
You are an anti Jew trying to masquerade as an objective thinker.
You must be a Zionist troll since you falsely define anti-Zionism as anti-Semitism.
emarine wrote:
And nuts come here on OPP with... were Nukes used in the destruction of the WTC... The only reason you post this crap is for Rebuttal... and you get it.... what's next the Alien death ray theory?...
Did you watch the Barry Jennings video? His testimony totally contradicts the NIST "office fires" lies. Too bad Barry had to die for being honest.
Blade_Runner wrote:
Structural steel loses 50% of its strength at 1100F. The jetliners blasting through the buildings destroyed fire retardant coatings on the columns and floor trusses, exposing them to direct fire impingement. Like a giant incendiary bullet, the jetliner blew a massive hole through the building. The direct hit on the North Tower, for example, severely damaged most of the inner support columns, shattered sheet rock walls, ceilings and framing, pulverized furniture, office equipment, carpeting, clothing, drapes, exposed paper, cardboard, wood, plastic, PVC pipes, and other fuel sources.
Jet fuel exploded down through the elevator shafts all the way to the lobby where it blew out the plate glass windows and killed a good number of people. First in firefighters found burned people in the lobby. No fires of any significance were ignited below the impact zone. Firefighters has to ascend via the stairwells because the elevators were knocked out.
Those explosions you claim were planted explosives blowing debris out were actually the air trapped on each floor blowing out like a stomped on balloon.
The looney tunes conspiracy you are pushing defies all logic, science, and common sense. The entire convoluted mess you promote is impossibly complex and loaded with contradictions. The organization, training, logistics, communications, subterfuge, deceptions, timing, and the thousands of agencies, corporations, individuals, groups, and authorities necessary to pull off such a massive conspiracy is beyond any credible possibility. In a word, you "troofers" are freaking insane.
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BD, you're another who can't understand that if firefighters reached the 78th floor in less than an hour, there could not have been any serious fires below where the plane hit the South Tower. If you had a brain you would deduce from that fact that the steel in those 78 floors was not weakened.
If you don't think a massive number of people can be organized and be able to keep a secret, do some research on the Manhattan Project.
Liberty Tree wrote:
More nonsense from another ELWNJ. Your DNC kool aid must be in good supply
If it were nonsense, it could easily be refuted.
I'm not a Democrat, I'm an American patriot.
Are you an Israeli patriot?
J Anthony wrote:
I agree, it was not an "out-of-the-blue" incident by any means. Cui bono, right? But our fellow citizens are not prepared or willing to acknowledge that anyone in our own government or that any of our own private citizens are culpable regarding such a thing, or benefited from it in any way.. It could be decades before our citizens are psychologically capable of considering that, not unlike the JFK assasination.
It's up to those of us who know the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is based on lies to alert the sleeping herd. It's a tough task but nothing else is more important.
Once you know 9/11 is a lie, then you also know:
- Everything about foreign policy reported on mainstream news is misinformation or outright lies.
-Many of the other terrorist acts blamed on Muslims are FBI-CIA-Mossad false-flag operations.
-Both political parties are in on the deception.
-Capitol Hill is controlled by a secret cabal.
"Exclusive: Despite a record of unprecedented error, American neocons remain the dominant foreign policy force in Official Washington, demanding more regime change in the Middle East and a new Cold War that could heat up and end all life on the planet, writes Robert Parry."
By Robert Parry
The neoconservatives arguably have damaged American national interests more than any group in modern history. They have done more harm than the marginal Communists pursued by Sen. Joe McCarthy in the 1950s, more than the Yippies of the 1960s, more than Richard Nixons Watergate burglars in the 1970s or the Iran-Contra conspirators in the 1980s.
The neocons have plunged the U.S. government into extraordinarily ill-considered wars wasting trillions of dollars, killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of people, and destabilizing large swaths of the planet including the Middle East, much of Africa and now Europe. Those costs include a swelling hatred against America and a deformed U.S. foreign policy elite that is no longer capable of formulating coherent strategies.
Jackson Diehl, deputy editorial page editor of the Washington Post.
Yet, the neocons have remained immune from the consequences of their catastrophes. They still dominate Washingtons major think tanks as well as the op-ed pages of virtually all the leading newspapers, including The Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Times. They hold down key positions in the State Department, and their liberal interventionist pals have the ear of President Barack Obama.
Clearly, the neocons are skilled operatives, knowing how to arrange a steady stream of funding for themselves, from military contractors donating to think tanks, from U.S. taxpayers footing the bill for organizations like the National Endowment for Democracy, and from ideological billionaires set on aligning U.S. foreign policy with hard-line Israeli desires.
The neocons are adept at writing op-ed articles that twist any set of facts into support for their ideological cause; they supply just the right quote that fits into the news cycles latest narrative; and they host policy conferences that attract powerful politicians and fawning media coverage.
But are the neocons a force that can coexist with the American Republic? Have they become an existential threat not only to the constitutional structure crafted in 1787 but to continued life on the planet? Are they locked on a course of action that could lead to a nuclear holocaust?"
Read more . . . http://consortiumnews.com/2015/09/15/are-neocons-an-existential-threat/
Readers should be aware that Neoconservatives are also Zionists.
J Anthony wrote:
It's hard to say with any certainty exactly how and why the 9/11 tragedy was allowed to happen, even after studying all the available info. One thing I think we can know for certain, however, is that the "official" govvernment explaination is less than the whole truth, as usual.
If you studied all the available 9/11 information, you would know that it was "made" to happen.
emarine wrote:
Except the many thousands of gallons of burning jet fuel running down the elevator shafts... many people used the 2 open stair ways, many died by fire in elevators making 911 the worst elevator disaster to date.... not hard to prove look it up... I posted the link from the fire chief in WTC 2 who was in the lobby manning the elevator intercom system maybe you should read the link ... All this conspiracy theory is bullshit... go back to the 911 videos and look at the huge holes in the outside structure then add in the damage inside... plus fire... had the towers been build in the conventional manor they would not have fallen... simple fact is they were not built conventionally... the impact on 911 exceeded the design specs by 20%... In my experiences once something exceeds its design you can expect a failure...
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Trolls are paid to lie and you do it shamelessly. The Firefighters made it to the 78th floor. Since they did that in less than an hour, there were no significant fires below the 78th floor. All your lies are designed to obscure that fact but I'll keep reminding readers every time you attempt to divert from that fact.
By the way, WTC7 was constructed conventionally, and it fell displaying the characteristics of a classic controlled demolition.
Barry Jennings, who was an inspector for the NYC housing authority, had this to say about explosions he experienced inside WTC7 before either of the twin towers fell. From his testimony, it's obvious that the explosions he described were part of the controlled demolition process. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tr0TZa3WeI
Barry Jennings died at the age of 53 from unknown causes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ris8OGSskCk
emarine wrote:
here ya go Larry... see if this works to......
http://theunredacted.com/titanic-conspiracy-the-ship-that-never-sank/
It's a common tactic of trolls when they are losing a debate to try to divert to another subject.
vernon wrote:
the film shows the collapse of the upper floors and and going down faster as the weight went down to the next floor.
and if it was an explosion it was caused by thousands of pounds of aluminum reacting to either molten steel or gypsum.that mini nuke stuff is just crazy.
Read the NIST link where they say the fires could not have reached more than 1800 degrees F. It takes 2800 degrees F to melt steel and gypsum does not melt. Are you as ignorant of science and physics as you appear to be?