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Dec 13, 2019 08:55:27   #
proud republican wrote:
Adam Schitthead!!!


"YOU PEOPLE" A _ _'_ _ _ _ _.!!!

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Dec 13, 2019 01:09:49   #
Pennylynn wrote:
So, in other words, you can not provide a reference to your claim. Well, you are entitled to your ignorance. But, along with your ignorance on the Constitution and American history, a few remedial high school courses in writing would allow you to string together the words you employed from a thesaurus with appropriate punctuation.


......can't, you read,or don't you have memory banks - your quintessentialness-or don't you know what you are suppose to do when provided with a link ..... By duhduh - by duhduhduh way.they suhsuhsss.. say(pardon my stutter) that generally . people whom have respectable Intellegence quotas(and that stands for IQ ) generally have good memory.What happened,did you forget,or do not you have an understanding of what you do with a link.knowing "YOU PEOPLE",I assumed duhduhduh latter, pardon me,I meant the ladder.
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Dec 12, 2019 23:53:28   #
Pennylynn wrote:
DID YOU READ THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE PHONE CALL?

Yes, I have read about 80 percent of the founding fathers documents at the National Archives, and in relation to impeachment, I gave you direct quotes from those documents. My information was taken directly from Committee of the Whole, the minutes of the convention. Mal-conduct does not appear in any of those documents pertaining to impeachment of the POTUS. Apparently, you are referencing a source that I have not read. PLEASE REFERENCE YOUR SOURCE. a book title with page number, a web page (exclude "opinions" please), or the file number from the National Archives. I ask because the link you provided does not work. Having said that I found the National Constitutional Center, which was implied from your source, but found no documentation from The Convention where the debate took place, I found a blog with opinions, but no real documents other than "an interactive Constitution."

Perhaps you are referencing the Federalist papers? Hamilton, Publius #79. In this document the term malconduct was used , but it was in relation to removing Supreme Court Judges (he continued in #81). Quote: "This provision for the support of the judges bears every mark of prudence and efficacy; and it may be safely affirmed that, together with the permanent tenure of their offices, it affords a better prospect of their independence than is discoverable in the constitutions of any of the States in regard to their own judges.

The precautions for their responsibility are comprised in the article respecting impeachments. They are liable to be impeached for malconduct by the House of Representatives and tried by the Senate; and, if convicted, may be dismissed from office and disqualified for holding any other. This is the only provision on the point which is consistent with the necessary independence of the judicial character, and is the only one which we find in our own Constitution in respect to our own judges." Indeed, Federalist 81 addresses the Supreme Court. His arguments for impeaching judges is enlightening, but falls short on impeachment of the POTUS.

So, leaving Hamilton aside, we are left with the arguments from the Convention....and as I said, provide me with a reference that is not a blog or opinion, and if I am wrong I will recant my objection to your use of the word "malconduct."

Your diatribe, and in particular your foul language, in referencing the President is uncalled for and offensive. Do try to remember that you are on a public forum and behave as if you are educated and learned basic manners.
DID YOU READ THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE PHONE CALL? b... (show quote)


Well, quintessential whiteman that has a compulsitory need to marginalize every man that threatens his what he perceives as his (HIS IS SUPREME !!!) supreme superiority so that it will enlarge his penis there by making him more appealing to women because he has gross feelings of in inadequatecy....I read that several times, and also provided a link so others could read it .- but like the typical Republican/Trumpian/conservative white male,you arbitrarily and bodaciously LIE !!!!!!
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Dec 11, 2019 21:06:57   #
Pennylynn wrote:
Until the House votes, he has not been indicted. Until the Senate votes, then he has to be presumed innocent. So far, there are no evidence of wrongdoing, there are "moral" opinions, but opinions are not evidence. You and others may disapprove of his handling of the 25 July telecom, but that is a personal "moral" conclusion. Until a law is formulated that negates a President's freedom of speech, that President has coverage under the Constitution.

The media and Democrats have latched onto a false "impression." They would have us believe that a personal favor was requested. However, the President's preamble to the request "I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it." So, his request was in behalf of our nation, and not a personal "service." He goes on to say (questioning the "corruption" issues in the Ukraine) " I think you are surrounding yourself with some of the same people." I would like you to ·get to the bottom of it." So, a few keys...1. The President was not asking for a personal favor, but made a request because of the drama our nation has been subjected and 2. The President was concerned that President Zelensky was still surrounding himself with corrupt individuals. President Trump again makes Ukraine's corruption an issue for our nation when he said:"Good because I· heard you had a prosecutor who· was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. _·A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved." So, he asked President Zelensky to look into it, saying there is talk (hearsay) "There's a lot talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you ·can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me." And as you read this, what stands out is 1. There was no demand for action, 2. Our President was concerned with what is being discussed by our citizens, and 3. He is concerned that Biden has meddled in Ukraine's decision making.

I would say, based on the telecom....President Trump DID NOT commit a crime, abuse the Office of President, or request a personal favor. Perhaps his command of English is very ghetto New York street, but as far as I know a President cannot be impeached for not being a polished orator.
Until the House votes, he has not been indicted. ... (show quote)


His words to Zenlensky was" he wanted them to do him a favor,and that was to investigate Biden".Biden is his closes competitor so far as his retaining his presidency.So far as his committing High Crimes and misdemeanors are concerned,the founders specified of high crimes, whether they meant misdemeanors as crimes you can be certain they meant something for some kind of an affect, other wise they would not have mentioned it.At a minimum misdemeanors would have meant mischievousness.If you had read the debates as I recommended you do ,you would have noted they used the word mal -conduct,which would have meant disorderly conduct or conduct un-befitting and unbecoming a president. Keeping in mind what they were discussing ,and that was to determine the grounds in which a president should be removed from office;these would be known as articles of impeachment...Where in this countrys history does this country have a prerequisite that has to be met by a potential ally whom are requiring our assistance for helping them to become free and independent and expounding those concepts as we have been doing since the revolutionary war ,and ever since.We also had assistance without any prerequisites to be met,such as favors done for the assistors.(which by the way,we were supported by France,and Spain,whom at that time were powers of the world,and required nothing in return) now what part of that are you denying he did or did not do (the Zen,part or the Fa_ _ _ part.
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Dec 11, 2019 17:14:24   #
padremike wrote:
So, Don, where do "high crimes and misdemeanors" necessary under the Constitution for impeachment enter into your commentary?


Read the debates by the founders arguing as to what and when a president should be impeached,The term High Crimes and misdemeanors was taken from British parliamentary law.They specifically were concerned about the president s conduct, and used a term referred to as mal- conduct.When they settled on the term misdemeanor,They had in mind mal-conduct - misdemeanor covering and being synomous with mal conduct.If you read the arguments by Morris,and Hamiliton.As was denoted in my topic post I made an analogy of an employee being under scrutiny for violations of company rules and regulations,and what is the reprimand that occurs when an employee is under scrutiny and deemed to have malfeased or have some degree of mal conduct so far as not adhering to company codes rules and regulations.In that era the term misdemeanor did not have the same connotations as it has today.Today misdemeanor means a crime not as serious as a felony,and punishable by no more than a year jail and probation and possibly a fine.In other words the term misdemeanor had not had technicality attached to it,having said this ,they could only have used the term misdemeanor to refer to mal-conduct.
https://constitutioncenter.orgblog/what-the-founders-thought-about-impeachment-and-the-president
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Dec 11, 2019 15:49:40   #
Does he understand what the impeachment procedures entails or is he shooting someone again and telling your dumb ass any thing and still expecting your support and votes.
He contends he hasn't even committed a crime.Perhaps he does not understand that being impeached is not nesscesarily a reprimand or judgement for criminal offenses but more or less Judgment of are you adhering to and doing the job as is constitutionally prescribed, as it should be adhered to.
It is the same philosophy which ascertains whether you should be discharged or not- for instance you are under rebuke for having to many un-excused absences; having to many absences is not a incarceratory criminal offense,it is however ,an offense that may cause a discharge of the individual under scrutiny for the offense that violates company rules that are not criminal,it is more or less torque or civil as oppose to criminal
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Dec 9, 2019 23:31:24   #
PeterS wrote:
The decimator of fake news is at it again. What Trump didn't tell you was that the majority of people on welfare ARE working their ass off. They receive welfare because, even though working, they still don't earn enough to keep their heads above the poverty level. Yes, "some" people on welfare might be making more than someone working but that only points to the need to raise the minimum wage--something that hasn't been raised since George Bush was president.

This is nothing more than our Christian president attacking the poor and doing because, as a CC, he doesn't like them very much and that's just SAD...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/11/29/trump_some_welfare_recipients_make_more_money_than_person_working_their_ass_off.html?fbclid=IwAR1X-AcOrlQml2CZAemHx5uPfD3CXzJjb6OhIoAe3dLofBCArLZ6MMhKrLY

President Donald Trump delivered remarks on tax reform Wednesday in St. Charles, Missouri. Trump also spoke about welfare reform and said he has met people who are on welfare, do not "work at all," and make more money than a person who is "working his and her ass off."

From his remarks:

PRESIDENT TRUMP: And by the way, what happened, what happened, is Obama took a long time, years to get Obamacare, right? Again, 10 months. We've had two runs at it. We're coming closer, closer. I think now we have a plan that's going to be great. But we're not talking about it until after taxes, and then we'll take care of health care.

Then we will have done tax cuts, the biggest in history, health care, phenomenal health care. I know you don't want this -- welfare reform. Does anyone want welfare reform?

And infrastructure. But welfare reform, I see it, and I've talked to people. I know people that work three jobs and they live next to somebody who doesn't work at all. And the person who is not working at all and has no intention of working at all is making more money and doing better than the person that's working his and her ass off. And it's not going to happen. Not going to happen.
The decimator of fake news is at it again. What Tr... (show quote)


........ the premise behind the constant maligning of people whom receive welfare is that people whom are on it are parasitical lay abouts whom don't want to work and they drive taxes up and other people are supporting them.People whom follow this premise are generally not in the know ,therefore ignorant.Once again Trump acts like it is virtuous to deviate from that concept or idiom that
ends with the phrase `but ignorant is bliss"
When they sought to solve and alleviate the problem of reforming welfare approximately twenty-seven years ago,it being one of the hot campaign issues, politicians used as a platform to get themselves elected ,promising to end welfare as we know.Bill Clinton's contention was that :"if the country eliminated every form of welfare the country accommodated,your taxes wouldn't go down one dime."
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Dec 9, 2019 15:28:24   #
fullspinzoo wrote:
He's a 'chicken shit' piece of horse manure who didn't show up because he nows he would have eaten alive by Congressman Collins. What a disgusting human being. Looking forward to the Durham report. Where is that POS Schiff going to hide next time.


Adam Schiff did not went missing because he "NOWS" he would be eaten alive,the reason I know that is the reason he did not go missing is because like I,and every one else,we are not familiar with or how the "NOWS" verbal phrase is actuated.How does one "NOWS"be eaten alive.
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Dec 9, 2019 12:08:36   #
Peewee wrote:
Abortion and same-sex marriage were never voted on by "we the people". It was forced on our nation by the courts. I think like ranchers, they are trying to cull the herd or population. Then they demand more immigration from Muslin nations and try and destroy our health care or make it unaffordable and resent us making more than minimum wages. Maybe that's why they were also moving our factories to China. The left is wicked and wants total control. Transgenderism doesn't produce babies either, especially after gender reassignment surgery. I agree all they do is spread lies, misery, and death. Thank God for Trump!

He is going after the death merchants, fentanyl, drugs, abortion, euthanasia, big pharma and hospitals that won't post their prices, and trying to reduce the number of Muslims entering our country. Trump is clearly on the side of life and richer more abundant lives and families for all. Just one of the many reasons I support him.

I only worry about what comes after Trump. Will the death merchants return or will we find another Trump.
We didn't really find Trump, he has admitted he once belonged to the "club" of money and power. That's where he learned what they are up to. He decided to step up and do the right things. He didn't have to but he is exposing them. Will we learn our lesson is the question. We only have five more years to fix our nation and change and save the world again. Let's get er done. If you are a Christian, have common sense, know right from wrong, and are awake, run for any open office. We're burning daylight and the clock is ticking.
Abortion and same-sex marriage were never voted on... (show quote)


Now hear this !!!!. Since we do not have a true Democracy, BUT !!! a bi-cameral Republic ,
none of the constituional laws that we adhere to came VIA "WE THE PEOPLE" - which would be a true Democracy;they come about due to the Republic we conform to.
This is why the framers debated vigarously days on end as to what kind of government we should have-this is why the arguments against having a true Democratic government were overwhelmingly convincing.Why we have Senators and Representatives,they thought -"`WE` - !! ,the people were stupid and couldn't read therefore could not make intellegent decisions as to what was best for the newly found nation. You have certainly confirmed that the founding fathers were wise.
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Dec 9, 2019 11:39:36   #
kcstargoat wrote:
So Trump mispoke, plenty of people do. He was talking about the abortion in the ninth month is wrong and should be stopped. You damned Demoncraps will use any chink in Trump's armor to rail against him.
Stupid liberals will say anything to deride the president!


Do us demorats remind you of your selves.If we don't.... you're no better than the Congolese.
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Dec 9, 2019 05:14:18   #
trashbaum wrote:
You need a little more education. Late term abortion isn't caring for the normal newborn. When induced labor head is exposed it's brains are then sucked out. If you believe that is caring for the newborn then you are as smart as Schiff.


I'm not a female .I'm pro choice,and I am street wise to enough to know that when they perform abortions, (especially people whom are not qualified and legally authorize to perform abortions) kill babies with hangers....they might induce labor during any month- yank the babys head far enough out of the womb for visibility purposes and flat out kill it by knocking it over the head with a soft mallet,ninth month or any month.It is also legal to perform an abortion at the point when the baby has metaphorsized enough so clearly it is Identifiable as a tiny human being-and !! the DOCTOR !! -specifying legallity ; when performing the legal abortion, strike a blow to the babies head to kill it with a mallet,the same way an individual kills another with malice with a hammer.He told you right,you need more education.
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Dec 9, 2019 04:51:15   #
[quote=EconomistDon]Oh come on nofactsjustfiction. You know as well as I that the media put out a typo, and you are ridiculing Trump for it. Trump said babies are Torn (with a "T") from their mothers womb in the 9th month. You guys are a bunch of flippin' idiots.

Nofactjustfiction, why are you sooooo full of hate?[/quote
That must have been a typo,as well as a voice dubb over,click on the video link.
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Dec 8, 2019 20:11:28   #
[quote=factnotfiction]Guess he must have let his tiny little brain wander again, or his teleprompter malfunctioned again.


..."child birth in the 9th month is wrong and must be stopped"...

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/president-trump-publicly-comes-out-against-childbirth-in-the-ninth-month-of-pregnancy-it-is-wrong/


And surviving brain donor cons still whine about President Obama saying 57 states, which is nowhere as stupid as what the orange idiot just said.[/quote
Either he - IS- !! ,
just that stupid,or that was his vindictiveness against
the human race for not having the same opinion of him that he has of himself.As far as I know the ninth month is still the mean month
in which most human babies are born,therefore he was being suggestive that the human race should cease in perpetuating it self.As I remember reading somewhere ,God,at one time expressed the same sentiment.To express such intolerance for the human race as God did is consistent for men whom have the reputation for making claims of supremacy.
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Dec 7, 2019 23:24:16   #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yep


I was a single parent kid, raised by a mother,She had two years of college and generally worked for the great mail-order businesses such as Montgermery Wards, Spiegel and Aldens.Her employment was off and on depending on how any of the three retailers were fareing due to the economy.This was the fifties on through the early seventies.Regardless of whether she was working or not as a file clerk, with pay scales at a buck sixty five an hour as a minimum and reaching the maximum glorious plateau of 3.60 an hour ,maybe four bucks at the end of this illustrious career.At this time the entitlement known as Food Stamps emerged, more or less due to Lyndon Baines Johnson concepts and visions of "A Great Society"- programs 'whose agendas was to launch a war to rid the country of poverty.As I pretty much understood and heard that it had a certain amount of success.I do remember many days of hunger and even having to attend school,both elementary and high school on empty stomach.I do remember us having partook of the food stamp entitlement and still incurring many days of hunger,even during the periods of `ole`Moms employ.There was also a friend creditor,(whom was white and also had a family to feed ) sales person who mom had an account with so that she could purchase sorely needed clothes and furniture affordably.This same sales person use to purchase our foods stamps from `ole`mom so that he could capitalize on the fact that you could get more food than the food stamps were at their literal face value- i.e. 200 worth of food stamps at it's literal face value,you get 250$ worth of food.The government made up the difference.The moral and point of this story is that ,1: the cost of living and the poor man's monetary intakes is never at a fair and porpotional distribution so that he can never meet his expenditures efficiently as they should be met.2.Even those you think that are the highest echlons of your citizentry use and have to take advantage of government subsidies such as food stamp programs to make ends meet,Why ? because you can shoot some one and steal,uh ruh... I mean still get their votes, and you keep maintaining a climate conducive to only businesses growth and expansion,not the common man's growth and expansion.
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Dec 7, 2019 10:58:46   #
PeterS wrote:
Can you say: Merry Christmas!!!

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2019/12/trump-administration-ends-food-stamps-for-700000-unemployed-americans/?fbclid=IwAR31P-OuyNp_M8FzLHXm8qVxQcKy4KCeXSzYu7KEH2WLvcVgrH6iy1Gubg4

In yet another act of gratuitous cruelty, the Trump administration has issued new rules that will take food stamps away from nearly 700,000 unemployed Americans.

The Trump administration announced a plan Wednesday to end food-stamp benefits for about 700,000 Americans, issuing a new regulation that makes it harder for states to gain waivers from a requirement that beneficiaries work or participate in a vocational training program.

Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue explained the deplorable action to reporters, declaring:

We’re taking action to reform our SNAP program in order to restore the dignity of work to a sizable segment of our population and be respectful of the taxpayers who fund the program. Americans are generous people who believe it is their responsibility to help their fellow citizens when they encounter a difficult stretch. That’s the commitment behind SNAP, but, like other welfare programs, it was never intended to be a way of life.

Because nothing restores “the dignity of work” like going hungry.

The move is despicable, but not surprising. Republicans have always wanted to cut food stamps for the poor and unemployed. Last year House Republicans tried to impose similar restrictions but were stopped by Democrats in the Senate.

Senator Debbie Stabenow, a Democrat from Michigan, and the ranking member of the Senate Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition and Forestry, railed against the new rule, declaring:

This Administration is out of touch with families who are struggling to make ends meet by working seasonal jobs or part-time jobs with unreliable hours. Seasonal holiday workers, workers in Northern Michigan’s tourism industry, and workers with unreliable hours like waiters and waitresses are the kinds of workers hurt by this proposal.
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Well ,you see it ,goes like this.This is the quintessential judgemental behavior of a much more fortunate white man (not superior,but more fortunate) He historically takes the low road in his assessment and evaluation of their character as opposed to the higher road.
He arrives at certain conclusions about them using processes of stereotyping;If you've seen one, you've seen them all.However,he does not apply the same processes in the gaugement of self-that is to say,if you saw a white man walking down the street...one should immediately get in touch with their teenage sons to make sure they are safe,it being that,that white man could be a John Wayne Gacy,or Jeffery Dahmer.
To further elaborate ,and link the scenario alluded to above to this act of humongus cruelty -and justifying it by assuming and saying those whom will fall victim to it , are being lazy and don't want to work and are supplementing foods stamp for the pay of employ (a Reaganist mind set,I might add.) Just imagine,they are meeting all their survival expenditures with so much as a hundred and fifty dollars worth of food stamps.SHIT!! !! ,I didn't know landlords except snap for rent,nor phone companies,or ComEd,nor did I know clothiers take food stamps in exchange for clothes,evidently they do,otherwise, how else could their expenditures be met since their source of income is food stamps in lieu of a check of employ.Neither did I know that as little as 150$ worth snap could be extended to cover expenditures of possibly 2000$ a month.,must be ,otherwise why would a body choose to not work and milk the government of a 150$ to pay a debt of possibly 2000$.Any hoooooowwww,Trump took care of that,their lazy asses are going to work now,they don't want to incurr the ravages
of mal-nutrition , and Starve!! to death.
Gooooooo ! "THE DONALD" !!??
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