payne1000

So the Warrington was taken out by allied mines? Your skipper must have been a doofus.

Were the seven sailors killed any braver than the 34 Israel killed aboard the USS Liberty? Israel used machine guns, cannon, napalm and torpedoes, attempting to sink the ship and kill all 290 aboard. Captain McGonigle, who skippered the Liberty, saved the ship through expert seamanship.

An officer who was aboard the Liberty talks about what happened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ZJEhDfono

payne1000

You fail to mention whose version of history you taught.

I suspect it was the Zionist version.

Here's some history not written by Zionists:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/monopoly-men/

saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

That happened in 1972. I was discharged in 1967. I think all officers are diffuses. To this day, I don't know what happened to cause the Liberty tragedy. I do think that having a spy ship in a war zone and not bothering to inform the Israelis was not the smartest thing the Navy has ever done. How do you feel about your buddies in Gaza celebrating the day after 911, and at other times the US lost men in the Middle East?

Sicilianthing

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I'm going to watch it later, get back to you.. standby..

payne1000

Below are two books about the liberty attack. One was authored by an officer aboard the Liberty during the attack. The other was written by a seaman who also survived the vicious attack.

It was in fact your buddies in Israel and those Israelis in the U.S. who participated in the attacks who celebrated the 9/11 attacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv5s_VEmZd0
Netanyahu even went so far as to say 9/11 was good for Israel.

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

You obviously have a big problem with Israel, for what reason I don't know. What you like to see Israel do or what would you like to see done to them to make everyone they've supposedly wronged whole again?

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

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saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

I guess all the dancing in the street in Gaza that exploded all over the tv was Zionist propaganda. I think that we have both said all there is to say. I know that because this is the third time that you came back to a tragic incident that happened nearly fifty years ago. We Zionists will keep hoping and praying for peace while you still hope for revenge. I want nothing for the Palestinian people except peace and progress. It seems to me, all you want is war and destruction. As I said before, the next time rockets are launched from Gaza, and the IDF is forced to defend the land and people of Israel, don't complain when children are killed because they are used as human shields by terrorists, or hospitals and schools are targeted because they are being used as Hamas communication centers or storage centers for munitions!

payne1000

You asked the right question this time, Phil.

My problem isn't with Israel so much as it is with the Zionists who are responsible for invading Palestine and converting the country into an illegitimate homeland for Jews. If you haven't researched the history of Zionism then you probably don't know that Zionists are responsible for the creation of the Federal Reserve system which gave private banks the right to print money out of nothing, loan it to our government and then charge taxpayers interest on that fiat money.

Zionists used the Fed to finance both World Wars which they used to manipulate Britain and the UN to give them part of Palestine as a homeland.
Only getting part of Palestine did not satisfy the Zionists. They immediately started a terrorist movement which massacred entire Arab villages and drove close to a million Arabs off their lands and into exile.
Zionists claim they have a right to return to their homeland in Palestine which they claim belonged to their ancestors centuries ago. That's totally false since most of the modern day Zionists are Ashkenazi Jews who were originally Khazars originating in Georgia and Ukraine. The Arabs who have a legitimate right to return to their homeland in Palestine have been denied by the Zionists.

Closer to home the actions of Zionists have been just as disastrous. Jews now own all our major news, motion picture and TV production corporations. I can't prove all these Jews are Zionists but it would make sense they are supportive of Israel and the Zionist movement. Their ownership of a complete industry could not be accidental. Jews make up only about 2% of our population. The Jewish takeover would have to have been planned. The purpose is to control how Americans think.
The most egregious propaganda they are spreading at this time is to demonize Muslims which they hope will cause Americans to accept their genocide of Muslim Arabs in Israel. Americans may be buying the lies but the rest of the world is not. A recent BBC poll indicated Israel was ahead of only Iran, North Korea and Pakistan in world respect. That's out of a total of 196 countries.

Zionists have taken control of our election system through their rich and powerful lobby, AIPAC. Any U.S. politician who tells the truth about Israel will not be reelected. By controlling Capitol Hill, Zionists are able to make sure Israel continues to get $3 billion annually in foreign aid even though they are a prosperous country. Zionist control of Capitol Hill also enables them to have great influence in using the American military to their benefit in Middle East conflicts and wars.
To understand better how AIPAC works, read "They Dare to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel's Lobby" by 22-year Illinois Republican congressman Paul Findley. Findley was defeated by an AIPAC-backed candidate after he questioned the actions of Israel. Parts of the book can be read here:
http://www.amazon.com/They-Dare-Speak-Out-Institutions/dp/155652482X

To answer your question, I would like to see the Jewish monopoly on our
News and motion picture industry broken up. Jews should not be allowed to own more than the percentage they comprise in our population.

AIPAC should be required to register as an agent of a foreign government.
Their members have been caught sending classified information to Israel.
A recent poll indicates Americans think they should register as a foreign agent by a margin of 5 to 1. http://electronicintifada.net/content/zogby-poll-should-aipac-be-asked-register-agent-foreign-government-and-lose-its-tax-exempt
If AIPAC were registered as an agent of a foreign government, they could not manipulate our election system as easily.

payne1000

How many Israelis have the Hamas rockets killed in the last 10 years, Saltwind?

How many Gazans have been killed in the last ten years by Israeli mass bombing campaigns?

Can you answer those questions honestly?

rolse

Spoken like the champion of the dumbest of the dumb!

Kevyn

Jade Helm will ammount to a whole lot of nothing, but rather than the Henny penny nutters realizing that they suffered a bout of mindless paranoia, admitting it and getting on with their buisness they will just jump to the next "sky is falling" conspiracy theory. This one is as good as the next one because, you know there is a boogyman under every bed in nutterland, they just don't know if it's an Arab, commie or their own government. Lock and load silly ladies, they are coming to take you away! Just be careful not to blast your grand kids or dog! Know your enemy and be afraid, be very afraid.

Orrie

I don't know if Jade Helm is just an exercise for the troops or something sinister and far reaching into the removal of more freedoms. I do know the past history of this present government to gradually chip away our rights. If one would take into consideration all that has taken place with the debt, the value of the dollar, war, illegal immigration, spying and the deliberate violations of our Constitution by these rogue politicians how can anyone not be suspicious of Jade Helm? People have lost their trust in those who represent us more than any other time in the history of our nation. It would not surprise me if this Jade Helm turns out to be a lot more than what the government is telling us.

LAPhil Loc: Los Angeles, CA

Let me ask you again, what's your solution? Should there be a separate Palestinian state? Or do you want all the Israelis to just leave or worse, be driven into the sea?

payne1000

My solution is that we should end our alliance with Israel.
The U.S. should cut off all military aid to Israel.
Israel should be forced to let IAEA inspectors inspect their nuclear facilities at Dimona and destroy the illegal nuclear weapons Israel has kept hidden since the 1960s.

There can not be a Palestinian state unless Israel returns all the land stolen from Palestinians over the last 67 years. Otherwise there is no land which could be called a Palestinian state.