saloopo Loc: Colorado

I agree with you and your pointing out the disingenuous use of these invented abbreviations, but the democrats have been the majority party in washington since 2006. Thats like 8, going on 9 years. Is it any wonder why things are FUBAR.

CDM Loc: Florida

td; stating this as a number is useless because there is nothing to tie it to from that perspective. There is no common sense. It's a calculation tied to numbers that are manipulated.

All these data are skewed significantly by the number of people we don't count. Be that as it may...and no matter how one cuts this cookie;

The most informative metric provided by the BLS is the Workforce Participation stated as a percentile. It is a downward slope and continues downward through September.

Somebody is missing something here. I don't quite know what it is but when that percentage moves solidly the other way and government welfare costs take an inversely proportional move, I'll join your celebration.

mouset783 Loc: Oklahoma

Slyndra,500 million,vacations 1.4 billion, Obamacare disaster 2 billion, fund raisers stupid speeches 100 million and counting golf who knows,68,000 released criminals no telling 100 million illegals $116.00 each,500 million Syrian farmers,pharmasists,storekeeps not counting 150,000 Syrian refugees Facts are color blind or didn't you know that. Even illiterates can count but Libs choose not to.

CDM Loc: Florida

Saloopo; Historically the Democrat party has been in majority positions for 64 of the past 85 years. One has to wonder why this didn't put those majorities to better use...

Snoopy

Tdsrnest

As usual, do not answer the question, just move to foul language.

It has never worked because we ALL know your familiar troll routine.

Snoopy

CDM Loc: Florida

Case in point; I am waiting for a (civil) response to my post above addressing the decline of participation as a percentage, the only meaningful metric in this whole mess.

These nit picky facts published right from the source seem to throw a wrench in the spokes from time to time, eh?

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

I'm still waiting for a reply to the assertion from my post that Mr Sherk used NOTHING BUT BLS and other government stats to support his argument in his the article!!! I told him to read the article and show me his conclusions based on FACTS that refute it.

All I've heard are chirps.

CDM Loc: Florida

This is the problem. No matter how one paints this turd it's still a turd and there is no avoiding that.

I just don't know how to dissuade someone from being such a victim...

saloopo Loc: Colorado

Wasnt aware of those numbers, no wonder things are FUBAR.

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

Here is the real picture, maybe you should stick to just presenting information instead of adding derogatory commontary.
Not Looking for Work: Why Labor Force Participation Has Fallen During the Recovery
By James Sherk September 4, 2014
Abstract
Talking Points
Originally published August 30, 2012—Revised and updated September 4, 2014

The American economy is experiencing the slowest recovery in 70 years. In addition to persistently high unemployment, labor force participation has fallen sharply since the recession began in December 2007. Today, 6.9 million fewer Americans are working or looking for work. This drop accounts for virtually the entire reduction of the unemployment rate since 2009 because those not looking for work do not count as unemployed.

Demographic changes explain less than one-quarter of the drop in labor force participation. The Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) estimate that demographics explain half of the drop in labor force participation, but the estimate ignores the effect of rising education rates. The baby boomers are aging and thus more likely to retire, dropping out of the labor force, while the population has become more educated and thus more likely to work. These demographic changes together explain less than one-quarter of the drop in labor force participation.

The remaining drop in participation primarily comes from millions more people collecting Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) or attending school. While those enrolled in school will probably return to the labor force, those going on the disability rolls will not. They will remain permanently outside the labor force.



The difficulty of finding a job drives both these changes. Job creation fell sharply after the recession began and—unlike layoffs—has only partially recovered. The government’s responses have been ineffective at best and counterproductive at worst. The stimulus provided little if any boost to the economy and will depress the economy in future years. The Dodd–Frank Act has hurt capital markets and hurt businesses seeking to expand.[1] Federal Reserve Banks find many businesses reporting that Obamacare has made hiring more expensive.[2] Instead of public works programs and counterproductive regulations, Congress should reduce the tax and regulatory burdens that it imposes on businesses to encourage hiring and stop the fall in labor force participation.

The Slow Recovery
The collapse of the housing bubble and the resulting financial crisis sent the U.S. economy into a recession in December 2007. Recessions and financial crises are not unusual. The savings and loan crisis and the Volcker disinflation contributed to the recessions of the early 1990s and 1980s, respectively. The recoveries from both of these recessions were strong. Today’s economy is unusual in how slowly it is recovering.

Officially, the most recent recession ended in June 2009—the last month of the last quarter of the economic contraction that began in 2008. When President Barack Obama took office in early 2009, his Administration projected that unemployment would fall to 7 percent by the end of 2010 if Congress passed his stimulus package. The Administration warned that unemployment would hit 9 percent by the end of that year if Congress did not pass the stimulus package. Congress passed the stimulus, yet the unemployment rate hit 10 percent in October 2009 and did not fall below 9 percent until late 2011.

Not until May of 2014 did total employment reach its pre-recession peak—five years after the recession formally ended.[3] May’s unemployment rate stood at 6.3 percent—the lowest since the recession began—but also matched the highest unemployment rate following the 2001 recession.[4]

VladimirPee

Whether or not they return to the workforce is irrelevant. The problem is that nobody is backfilling the positions they leave thus exploding reduction in workforce participation.

CDM Loc: Florida

This is from the Library of Congress. Somewhere in this is a story and I am certain, a million arguments.

The period January 1931 to January 2015 is (or will have been) 84 years.

In that period the congressional record is thus regarding presidential and congressional makeup;

Democrat is the left hand number and Republican the right;

Presidency 48 years (57%) 36 years (42%)

Senate majority 64 years (76%) 20 years (24%)
House majority 62 years (74%) 22 years (26%)

Consecutive
House and Senate majority 56 years (67%) 14 years (17%)

Consecutive Presidency
House and Sensate
Majority 24 years (29%) 12 years (14%)

Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way

Actually half of the article didn't copy it went on to say that the stimulus package will actually have an negative end result because of the lack of money now available for investment.

When will they stop throwing bogus numbers and figure it out. Stop spending, shrink gov and reduce regulations.

Airforceone

Read all the facts. GD your stupid. It's the increase of Baby-boomers retiring early also an increase in stay at home moms from 23% to 29%. Dennis go away I am tired of trying to educate an idiot like you. You read something on your propaganda sites and you believe this shit then when it gets shoved back in your face you say something different.

Workforce. Employed. Unemployed. Rate
Bush 2008- 154.655 mil. 143.369 mil. 11.286 mil. 7.3%

Obama 2014. 155.862 mil. 146.600 mil. 9.262 mil. 5.9%

Workforce increased under Obama not decreased. So take into account the baby boomers retiring early and the increase in stay at home Moms. Number of people applying for SS disability. Number of people opening there own business. There's your figures.

Your so out of touch with facts and common sense. These numbers of leaving the workforce have always been there. It's just the GOPTP use it now as a talking point. Now just go away please your stupid and I can't convince you that you are stupid because your to stupid.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

I'm still waiting on your reply to my post.

Chirp, chirp, chirp.