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Sep 26, 2014 18:34:29   #
VladimirPee
 
Not sure you know what you are talking about as usual.

#1 Unions support amnesty. They are not friends of the American worker.

What Counts as “Hiring An Illegal Immigrant”?

Under federal law, it is illegal for any employer to hire, recruit or refer for a fee any alien not authorized to work in the United States. This includes hiring contractors who employ illegal immigrants. There are criminal and civil penalties associated with this conduct.

It is also illegal for any employer not to verify work authorization. An employer who does not correctly complete an I-9 for each employee three days after the employee is hired is also subject to criminal and civil punishment.

What Are the Penalties For Hiring An Illegal Immigrant?

For first offenders, there is a $250-$2,000 fine per illegal employee.

For a second offense, the fine is $2,000-$5,000 per illegal employee.

For employers who have been convicted of hiring illegal immigrants more than twice, the fine can range from $3000-$10,000 per employee. If the employer demonstrates a pervasive pattern of knowingly employing illegal immigrants, he or she could face additional fines, and up to six months in jail.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/penalties-for-employers-hiring-illegal-immigrants.html



Nickolai wrote:
It started with American business recruiting Mexican labor to the meatpacking, hotel-motel , agricultural, and construction businesses. Any attempt by politicians to pass legislation penalizing businessmen for hiring illegal or undocumented aliens have been quickly quashed. Working Americans on the other hand having only the power of their one vote have been helpless in the face of the onslaught of union busting tactics. Meatpacking for instance once unionized is now non union. American workers replaced by Hispanics willing to work for subsistence
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Sep 26, 2014 18:51:08   #
Nickolai
 
ginnyt wrote:
What do you have against TEXAS? There are no finer people than those born and raised in Texas. Exception for Virginia, they are the salt of the earth. True, they have principals and they are also supporters of individual rights as opposed to big government, but they are really quite easy to talk with, they are not judgmental and they are respectful. Gentlemen there are true gentlemen, they would never vent on women or children and fly the flag with pride. Are you aware that the south are the vast majority of the military? Texas being in 1st place for volunteers. How can you even imply that they are anti-American?

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/mil_tot_mil_rec_arm_nav_air_for-recruits-army-navy-air-force

Take a good look at the site I provided!!!
What do you have against TEXAS? There are no fine... (show quote)






Generally speaking citizens volunteer out of economic necessity rather than out patriotism. Without a pathway to higher education and a lack of jobs that pay a livable wage with out some thing more than high school the military is an appealing option and patriotism hasn't much to do with it

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Sep 26, 2014 18:57:37   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Nickolai wrote:
Generally speaking citizens volunteer out of economic necessity rather than out patriotism. Without a pathway to higher education and a lack of jobs that pay a livable wage with out some thing more than high school the military is an appealing option and patriotism hasn't much to do with it



How would you know?

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Sep 26, 2014 18:57:40   #
VladimirPee
 
Sure. Guys like Pat Tillman had no other options.


Nickolai wrote:
Generally speaking citizens volunteer out of economic necessity rather than out patriotism. Without a pathway to higher education and a lack of jobs that pay a livable wage with out some thing more than high school the military is an appealing option and patriotism hasn't much to do with it


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Sep 26, 2014 19:11:46   #
Nickolai
 
DennisDee wrote:
Not sure you know what you are talking about as usual.

#1 Unions support amnesty. They are not friends of the American worker.

What Counts as “Hiring An Illegal Immigrant”?

Under federal law, it is illegal for any employer to hire, recruit or refer for a fee any alien not authorized to work in the United States. This includes hiring contractors who employ illegal immigrants. There are criminal and civil penalties associated with this conduct.

It is also illegal for any employer not to verify work authorization. An employer who does not correctly complete an I-9 for each employee three days after the employee is hired is also subject to criminal and civil punishment.

What Are the Penalties For Hiring An Illegal Immigrant?

For first offenders, there is a $250-$2,000 fine per illegal employee.

For a second offense, the fine is $2,000-$5,000 per illegal employee.

For employers who have been convicted of hiring illegal immigrants more than twice, the fine can range from $3000-$10,000 per employee. If the employer demonstrates a pervasive pattern of knowingly employing illegal immigrants, he or she could face additional fines, and up to six months in jail.

http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/penalties-for-employers-hiring-illegal-immigrants.html
Not sure you know what you are talking about as us... (show quote)




When was the last time you heard of these laws being enforced. I've only heard of token enforcement on a reare occasion. There are an estimated 7 million illegals holding down jobs in construction, manufacturing, and service industries which coincides with 7 million un employed Americans with no more than a high school education. Ad why are unions for amnesty because backing illegal foreign workers in general is where the money is even for unions.

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Sep 26, 2014 19:14:50   #
VladimirPee
 
That is not what you said. Here is your quote

" Any attempt by politicians to pass legislation penalizing businessmen for hiring illegal or undocumented aliens have been quickly quashed"





Nickolai wrote:
When was the last time you heard of these laws being enforced. I've only heard of token enforcement on a reare occasion. There are an estimated 7 million illegals holding down jobs in construction, manufacturing, and service industries which coincides with 7 million un employed Americans with no more than a high school education. Ad why are unions for amnesty because backing illegal foreign workers in general is where the money is even for unions.

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Sep 26, 2014 20:17:53   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Whatever. Thanks

rumitoid wrote:
First, I was not complaining in my initial post; it was a pang of sadness that there may come a day Texas and America may no longer stand side by side. Sorry that was unclear to you. Second, I do make an effort for clarity. Third, it is not my experience that there is "much misunderstanding" over my posts. Fourth, I did come out and say what I was upset over: you mistook that as a beef against the Long Horn State. I never said anything against Texas.

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Sep 26, 2014 20:22:01   #
VladimirPee
 
Texas and California will face many challenges soon as the Mexican population grows and they become a majority voting in freebies at the expense of the gringo's who will eventually flee leaving those states looking like Detroit

Loki wrote:
Talk of secession and rebellion is brought on by government ineptness; by an invasion of our country by Mexicans and Central Americans, which is being aided, abetted and legitimized by the criminals in DC. This sort of talk stems from frustration with a corrupt and incompetent, and oligarchical government that thinks life begins and ends inside the DC Beltway. Texas is being overrun by illegals, while Establishment Washington plays it's fiddle, and they ain't playing "Cotton Eyed Joe."
Texans are not stupid, they see this invasion for what it is: An attempt to change the demographic by legitimizing hordes of wetbacks with a view to giving them voting rights, which they usually exercise in an overwhelmingly Democrat manner. If they want to vote for Democrats, fine; let them stand in line and wait for citizenship like everyone else. The ONLY REASON there is such a push for amnesty is a desire to reinforce the Democrat voter base.

Apparently big government strategists in DC hav no problem with the fact that these illegals have no desire to assimilate. They will, if given the franchise, vote for the same kind of corrupt sewer that is Mexican government today. The same thing they are ostensibly trying to escape.

Think very carefully, all you amnesty supporters. Be careful what you wish for; because what you wish for is, in the final analysis, "La Republica de Mexico del Norte, Con Tarjetas de Estampillas de comida para Todo el Mundo, (Especialmente para los Mexicanos )."
Talk of secession and rebellion is brought on by g... (show quote)

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Sep 26, 2014 21:15:07   #
Kirk
 
Nickolai wrote:
It started with American business recruiting Mexican labor to the meatpacking, hotel-motel , agricultural, and construction businesses. Any attempt by politicians to pass legislation penalizing businessmen for hiring illegal or undocumented aliens have been quickly quashed. Working Americans on the other hand having only the power of their one vote have been helpless in the face of the onslaught of union busting tactics. Meatpacking for instance once unionized is now non union. American workers replaced by Hispanics willing to work for subsistence
It started with American business recruiting Mexic... (show quote)


Are you saying that American businesses went to Mexico to recruit them? Or did we just not enforce our immigration laws and these folks were willing to work for less money and naturally businesses hired them?

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Sep 26, 2014 21:37:12   #
Snoopy
 
rumitoid wrote:
Today, a friend and I drove to El Paso on some business. He is the type that tries to make room for all contingencies, so we found ourselves two and half hours early for our meeting, which was to be first at Denny's and then to a TV station. We decided to have a leisurely breakfast, a very leisurely breakfast, and wait. When I sat in the booth, I looked out the window and flying over the highway were the Texan and American flags and I felt a sudden pang": if only these two flags could stand side by side and wave together in real life. I was surprised at how much this saddened me.

We are forgetting America in this partisan war. The extremists on both sides are handing our future and liberties over to the enemies of this great country. The government is growing fat and unhealthy through inaction, platter's full of hot rhetoric to chew on and nothing getting done. Talk of secession and rebellion is nothing more than the threat of suicide for this nation. And I know what will happen as soon as I post this: insults and accusations will be hurled back and forth across the aisle that only act to defame a once proud republic. So why bother? One can only hope it might make a difference to speak out one more time.
Today, a friend and I drove to El Paso on some bus... (show quote)



Rumitoid

You only get attacked when you post almost anti-American statements.

We all agree the government is too big, too wasteful, without the moral fortitude to do things for the GOOD of the country and not for political advancement.

The government is no longer by the people and for the people.

Their agenda is wealth and power proven by how many in Congress are millionaires.

Snoopy

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Sep 26, 2014 22:58:30   #
rumitoid
 
Snoopy wrote:
Rumitoid

You only get attacked when you post almost anti-American statements.

We all agree the government is too big, too wasteful, without the moral fortitude to do things for the GOOD of the country and not for political advancement.

The government is no longer by the people and for the people.

Their agenda is wealth and power proven by how many in Congress are millionaires.

Snoopy


Sorrow that secession would destroy this great nation is somehow anti-American?

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Sep 26, 2014 23:01:47   #
VladimirPee
 
This nation was founded on the basic principles of freedom. Erosion of this principle is what is destroying America. Secession would only be a byproduct of that failure.


rumitoid wrote:
Sorrow that secession would destroy this great nation is somehow anti-American?

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Sep 26, 2014 23:10:55   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sorrow that secession would destroy this great nation is somehow anti-American?


Your sorrow is misplaced. It should be sorrow at the state of affairs that would make legislators speak publicly about seceding; Sorrow that the bungling, corrupt fools in DC have become somewhat less popular than a cockroach infestation.

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Sep 27, 2014 06:44:19   #
Kevyn
 
ginnyt wrote:
What do you have against TEXAS? There are no finer people than those born and raised in Texas. Exception for Virginia, they are the salt of the earth. True, they have principals and they are also supporters of individual rights as opposed to big government, but they are really quite easy to talk with, they are not judgmental and they are respectful. Gentlemen there are true gentlemen, they would never vent on women or children and fly the flag with pride. Are you aware that the south are the vast majority of the military? Texas being in 1st place for volunteers. How can you even imply that they are anti-American?

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/mil_tot_mil_rec_arm_nav_air_for-recruits-army-navy-air-force

Take a good look at the site I provided!!!
What do you have against TEXAS? There are no fine... (show quote)

Years ago I worked with a man from Texas, he was a bit unhappy because his son was marrying a beautiful Yankee girl. The morning after the wedding he got a call from his heartbroken son telling him the young man had thrown his bride out putting her on a bus back to Boston. The old man asked why and his son told him the girl had confided in him that she was a virgin on their wedding night. He reassured his boy that he had done the right thing, "if she aint good enough for her own family she sure as hell aint good enough for ours" spouted the self rightious dad?

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Sep 27, 2014 06:51:12   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
kebyn,

You really should keep your family business private. Sharing is fine, and I understand that it is late and your mother may be asleep and you had no adult to ask if this comment may be appropriate to share. Next time dear, just roll over and wake your mother up.

Kevyn wrote:
Years ago I worked with a man from Texas, he was a bit unhappy because his son was marrying a beautiful Yankee girl. The morning after the wedding he got a call from his heartbroken son telling him the young man had thrown his bride out putting her on a bus back to Boston. The old man asked why and his son told him the girl had confided in him that she was a virgin on their wedding night. He reassured his boy that he had done the right thing, "if she aint good enough for her own family she sure as hell aint good enough for ours" spouted the self rightious dad?
Years ago I worked with a man from Texas, he was a... (show quote)

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