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Jul 7, 2014 21:58:48   #
Sicilianthing
 
Patty wrote:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-04/punishing-france-us-just-accelerated-demise-dollar-0
"Not even we anticipated this particular "unintended consequence" as a result of the US multi-billion dollar fine on BNP (which France took very much to heart). Moments ago, in a lengthy interview given to French magazine Investir, none other than the governor of the French National Bank Christian Noyer and member of the ECB's governing board, said this stunner at the very end, via Bloomberg:

•NOYER: BNP CASE WILL ENCOURAGE ‘DIVERSIFICATION’ FROM DOLLAR
Here is the full google translated segment:


Q. Doesn't the role of the dollar as an international currency create systemic risk?



Noyer: Beyond [the BNP] case, increased legal risks from the application of U.S. rules to all dollar transactions around the world will encourage a diversification from the dollar. BNP Paribas was the occasion for many observers to remember that there has been a number of sanctions and that there would certainly be others in the future. A movement to diversify the currencies used in international trade is inevitable. Trade between Europe and China does not need to use the dollar and may be read and fully paid in euros or renminbi. Walking towards a multipolar world is the natural monetary policy, since there are several major economic and monetary powerful ensembles. China has decided to develop the renminbi as a settlement currency. The Bank of France was behind the popular ECB-PBOC swap and we have just concluded a memorandum on the creation of a system of offshore renminbi clearing in Paris. We have very strong cooperation with the PBOC in this field. But these changes take time. We must not forget that it took decades after the United States became the world's largest economy for the dollar to replace the British pound as the first international currency. But the phenomenon of U.S. rules expanding to all USD-denominated transactions around the world can have an accelerating effect.

In other words, the head of the French central bank, and ECB member, Christian Noyer, just issued a direct threat to the world's reserve currency (for now), the US Dollar.

Putting this whole episode in context: in an attempt to punish France for proceeding with the delivery of the Mistral amphibious warship to Russia, the US "punishes" BNP with a failed attempt at blackmail (recall that as Putin revealed, the BNP penalty was a used as a carrot to disincenticize France from concluding the Mistral transaction: had Hollande scrapped the deal, BNP would likely be slammed with a far lower fine, if any). Said blackmail attempt backfires horribly when as a result, the head of the French central bank makes it clear that not only is the US Dollar's reserve currency status not sacrosanct, but "the world" will now actively seek to avoid USD-transactions in order to escape the tentacle of global "pax Americana."

And, the biggest irony of all is that in "punishing" France for dealing with Russia, that core country of the Eurasian alliance of Russia and China, the US merely accelerated the gravitation of France (and all of Europe) precisely toward Eurasia, toward a multi-polar (sorry fanatic believers in a one world SDR-based currency) and away from the greenback.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-04/punishing... (show quote)


The British are not part of the EURO either for many reasons...
and I'm too tired to go into here... but with your vast knowledge Patty please also insert here the Square Mile phenomenon in England and the truth.
They are not concerned with any currency ebb n flows globally or PBOC either.
They went from the pound to the dollar for many other reasons by design...
and they will harness it back again no matter what shape or color it takes.
NOW THAT BEING SAID... how can we possibly explain it's depths to the common man and any of those here who are paying attention.

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Jul 7, 2014 22:03:45   #
saveamerica Loc: Texas
 
Glaucon wrote:
False beliefs can be remarkably hardy and can be has hard to kill as zombies. Three years after Obama released an official copy of his birth certificate, and a long form copy of his official birth certificate, a poll in 2011 found that only less than half of Republicans thought Obama was definitely or probably born in the United States.

What causes us to believe disproven things and continue to believe them no matter what the evidence?

I would be very interested in your answers to the following and any comments you want to make.

Did you ever believe Obama was or probably was not born in the U.S.?

Do you still believe he was not born in the U.S.?

If you changed your mind from believing he was not born in the U.S. to believing that he was, what caused you to change your mind?

If you now believe he was not born in the U.S., what causes you to believe that he was not?
False beliefs can be remarkably hardy and can be h... (show quote)




It makes no different, I just posted the U.S. law for the President of America, from the Library of Congress. It's very interesting and it is America's law.

It's a Must Read.

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Jul 7, 2014 22:24:22   #
Sicilianthing
 
saveamerica wrote:
It makes no different, I just posted the U.S. law for the President of America, from the Library of Congress. It's very interesting and it is America's law.

It's a Must Read.


Ok, I will read it...

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Sep 2, 2014 16:17:39   #
JustMe
 
Everyone who gets into political office has a part of the untold Self-sacrifices to secure and maintain our Inalienable rights. We are suppose to ask to see Everything about Everybody with No Exceptions. Those that do not want to do not care who gets into political office and therefore do not care about what happens in this country. When somebody does not care they will not take the time to find out what they should know about past and current events and consequently will do nothing constructive-unless by luck-to help this country. They want their freedom and rights but go by style instead of facts that's a Very bad basis for making a decision. Therefore, they are incompetent to vote. I go by what at least one individual in the Kenyan Parliament and what the Sunday Standard Newspaper in Kenya who know more than any of us said that was that Obama was born in Kenyan.

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Sep 13, 2014 11:25:23   #
Glaucon
 
Dar55 wrote:
I Do Not Believe he was born in the US!
His application for Student Aid For College said he
Was born in Indonesia...
What you say is not true. Does that matter to you?

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Sep 13, 2014 11:30:03   #
Glaucon
 
JustMe wrote:
Everyone who gets into political office has a part of the untold Self-sacrifices to secure and maintain our Inalienable rights. We are suppose to ask to see Everything about Everybody with No Exceptions. Those that do not want to do not care who gets into political office and therefore do not care about what happens in this country. When somebody does not care they will not take the time to find out what they should know about past and current events and consequently will do nothing constructive-unless by luck-to help this country. They want their freedom and rights but go by style instead of facts that's a Very bad basis for making a decision. Therefore, they are incompetent to vote. I go by what at least one individual in the Kenyan Parliament and what the Sunday Standard Newspaper in Kenya who know more than any of us said that was that Obama was born in Kenyan.
Everyone who gets into political office has a part... (show quote)


One person in the Kenyan parliament said something that has been refuted by every legitimate source and you believe the member of the Kenyan parliament? You are demonstrating a thinking error that we need to avoid unless we want to believe anything that supports our present dogmatic beliefs. Look up the confirmation bias on Wilipedia.

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Sep 13, 2014 11:31:15   #
Sicilianthing
 
Glaucon wrote:
What you say is not true. Does that matter to you?


______________________________________
OBAMA is a Mole
infiltrator
Fake Saudi African Born
Muslim sypathizer
terrorist threat co complicit
TRAITOR
Fraud
FAggot
Miser

The only reason he is still in that house is because of the Detail that surrounds him.... and they have no
BALLS either.... all brainwashed...

CongressClownFuckHeadWorld members are to blame...

Good luck with that voting thing !

Banksters are laughing at all of you....

And they will be Toasting again after elections...

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Sep 13, 2014 17:07:50   #
Glaucon
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
______________________________________
OBAMA is a Mole
infiltrator
Fake Saudi African Born
Muslim sypathizer
terrorist threat co complicit
TRAITOR
Fraud
FAggot
Miser

The only reason he is still in that house is because of the Detail that surrounds him.... and they have no
BALLS either.... all brainwashed...

CongressClownFuckHeadWorld members are to blame...

Good luck with that voting thing !

Banksters are laughing at all of you....

And they will be Toasting again after elections...
______________________________________ br OBAMA is... (show quote)



If I think of your comments as thoughts or as opinions, they make absolutely no sense, However, if i think of your comments as symptoms, they do make sense. However, I feel a whole lt better when I don't think of your comments at all.

Please don't vote. No one is laughing at you, that would be like laughing at an automobile accident,

I am glad that none of us voted for any of those congress clowns

Get well.

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Sep 13, 2014 17:46:03   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
saveamerica wrote:
It makes no different, I just posted the U.S. law for the President of America, from the Library of Congress. It's very interesting and it is America's law.

It's a Must Read.



Where did you post it?

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Sep 13, 2014 18:56:47   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Where did you post it?


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I don't know where he posted it in this instance, but it's been posted here and numerous places any nimber of times.

Obama is not a natural born citizen of the U.S. because a natural born citizen must be born in the U.S. of TWO U.S. CITIZEN PARENTS. It doesn;t matter where he was born he is NOT a natural born citizaen of the U.S. and is noit eligioble to legally be president.

It seems that as many times as that has been illustrated, people would begin to understand it.

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Sep 13, 2014 19:29:07   #
Glaucon
 
hprinze wrote:
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I don't know where he posted it in this instance, but it's been posted here and numerous places any nimber of times.

Obama is not a natural born citizen of the U.S. because a natural born citizen must be born in the U.S. of TWO U.S. CITIZEN PARENTS. It doesn;t matter where he was born he is NOT a natural born citizaen of the U.S. and is noit eligioble to legally be president.

It seems that as many times as that has been illustrated, people would begin to understand it.
==================================== br br I don'... (show quote)


I think it is amazing to say the least that you know our Constitution defines a natural born citizen as being born in the U.S. of TWO u.s. CITIZEN PARENTS and not one constitutional scholar agrees with you.

You might want to check your facts or show us where in the Constitution it is written. As I understand the constitution, a child born in the United States is by birth a natural born citizen and legally eligible to be president.

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Sep 13, 2014 20:29:33   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Glaucon wrote:
I think it is amazing to say the least that you know our Constitution defines a natural born citizen as being born in the U.S. of TWO u.s. CITIZEN PARENTS and not one constitutional scholar agrees with you.

You might want to check your facts or show us where in the Constitution it is written. As I understand the constitution, a child born in the United States is by birth a natural born citizen and legally eligible to be president.


====================================

As has been said so many times, the constitition does not define natural born citizen, nor does it define the other terms it uses. Definitions, where necessary, are defined by the juducial branch, as stated so many times here and other places, The supreme court, in a binding precedent, WHICH CANNOT BE REVERSED BY ANY COURT defined the term.


This has been pointed out here and many other places over and over. But you foolish Obama idolizers either are too stupid, too ignorant, or too obsessed with yoiur despicable idol to undserstand it.

End of conversation. I don't argue with fools.

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Sep 13, 2014 20:36:36   #
Glaucon
 
hprinze wrote:
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As has been said so many times, the constitition does not define natural born citizen, nor does it define the other terms it uses. Definitions, where necessary, are defined by the juducial branch, as stated so many times here and other places, The supreme court, in a binding precedent, WHICH CANNOT BE REVERSED BY ANY COURT defined the term.

You are wrong, but if you insist on believing people who disagree with you are "foolish Obama idolizers either are too stupid, too ignorant, or too obsessed with your despicable idol to understand it, you will be seen by everyone as a head case. Don't continue to be a head case.



This has been pointed out here and many other places over and over. But you foolish Obama idolizers either are too stupid, too ignorant, or too obsessed with yoiur despicable idol to undserstand it.

End of conversation. I don't argue with fools.
==================================== br br As has... (show quote)

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Sep 13, 2014 20:45:56   #
Sicilianthing
 
Glaucon wrote:
If I think of your comments as thoughts or as opinions, they make absolutely no sense, However, if i think of your comments as symptoms, they do make sense. However, I feel a whole lt better when I don't think of your comments at all.

Please don't vote. No one is laughing at you, that would be like laughing at an automobile accident,

I am glad that none of us voted for any of those congress clowns

Get well.

___________________________________
Do you really still believe your vote counts ?
OMG, you can't be serious ?
Your vote and anyone else's has never counted ever !
It's all for showtime on the networks
by the
MediaClowns...

Wake The Fuc* up !

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Sep 13, 2014 21:12:19   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
The following was posted fraudently as a quote of one of my replies. It was altered and is not what I wrote.
You can back up in the thread to compare what I wrote with what was claimed to be a quote of my reply.
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hprinze wrote:
====================================

As has been said so many times, the constitition does not define natural born citizen, nor does it define the other terms it uses. Definitions, where necessary, are defined by the juducial branch, as stated so many times here and other places, The supreme court, in a binding precedent, WHICH CANNOT BE REVERSED BY ANY COURT defined the term.

You are wrong, but if you insist on believing people who disagree with you are "foolish Obama idolizers either are too stupid, too ignorant, or too obsessed with your despicable idol to understand it, you will be seen by everyone as a head case. Don't continue to be a head case.



This has been pointed out here and many other places over and over. But you foolish Obama idolizers either are too stupid, too ignorant, or too obsessed with yoiur despicable idol to undserstand it.

End of conversation. I don't argue with fools.
Glaucon

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