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Sep 1, 2014 01:56:37   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
UncleJesse wrote:
They "tax" or basically have a mafia-like "protection fee" on citizens that funds them as they take areas as well as oil they seize and they do have some wealthy backers. So, it is a diverse source, originally.

P.S. you have good discipline in your diet choice, I would've included those crinkle cut fries.


I do not know who the originating "wealthy backers" were. I do know they are making great sums off oil sales.


PS: I wanted the crinkle fries; however, had a large helping of home fries (with heavy diced onions) last evening. :-P :D

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Sep 1, 2014 02:08:26   #
numenian
 
AuntiE wrote:
A totally accurate statement. It would be interesting; however, to find where the original funding came from.



PS: Off topic. I enjoyed a very nice double cheeseburger from Burger King this afternoon. I restrained myself. I had no fries but enjoyed unsweetened tea. :-P :D


Yikes, no fries! Tell me no, AuntiE. It is a senseless act without supporting fries. I am aghast!

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Sep 1, 2014 02:12:45   #
numenian
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Seriously, I'm curious...many here feel very strongly about this.....what would you do, realistically if you could ? Like saying " blow up the Middle East" is not very realistic....does anyone here have any realistic ideas of what can and should be done?


Enemy Combatants: kill on sight. No warning or Miranda rights. Sniper and drone free-for-all. Deal them death is any and every way possible.

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Sep 1, 2014 06:19:14   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Seriously, I'm curious...many here feel very strongly about this.....what would you do, realistically if you could ? Like saying " blow up the Middle East" is not very realistic....does anyone here have any realistic ideas of what can and should be done?


I'll ask a question first. ISIS originated in Syria, supposedly, where Assad has been dictator for years and whom we have tried and failed to oust. How are WE expected to deal with them when a strong arm, ruthless dictator cannot deal with them - in his own country?

As with both of our wars over there, it is impossible to tell friend from foe, until the bullets fly, or the bombs explode. By which time it's usually too late. We are dealing with pathological bullies and cowards. They hide their faces when on video, so they won't be identified. When confronted by a superior force - they hide, until they can strike from the shadows. Their favorite prey are women, children and old people, or anyone unarmed.

Were I President, I would order a media blackout on anything ISIS. I would also sanitize the internet, barring anything ISIS from being viewed. We have the technology to place a radio/microwave quarantine on the infected areas, thus denying ISIS of it's most potent weapon. Next, I would work with surrounding countries to establish no fly/no drive quarantine zones, to deny ISIS of resupply and retreat. Then, I would arm the hell out of those folk trapped behind enemy lines and who are threatened by ISIS - and let them kill them to the last person.

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Sep 1, 2014 07:57:08   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Seriously, I'm curious...many here feel very strongly about this.....what would you do, realistically if you could ? Like saying " blow up the Middle East" is not very realistic....does anyone here have any realistic ideas of what can and should be done?
Keep after them with drones. Pursue a program of total annialation there will be no negotiating. They want to annialate us. Pursue them unrelentlesly and increase the pressure at all times. Flush them out and show no mercy they will show us none.

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Sep 1, 2014 08:23:57   #
Liberty Tree
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Seriously, I'm curious...many here feel very strongly about this.....what would you do, realistically if you could ? Like saying " blow up the Middle East" is not very realistic....does anyone here have any realistic ideas of what can and should be done?


Have you thought about the fact they he is afraid to take too strong of an action because ISIS and other terror groups have infiltrated this country due to his failure to protect our borders? He is afraid of retaliation on the homefront.

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Sep 1, 2014 08:29:01   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
bmac32 wrote:
Did you really expect much else?

I'm tired of arming the wrong guy, we have a bad history of that.

We also have a bad record of starting something and not finishing because politics.

I can tell what I don't want, I don't want to see ISIS coming across the Mexican border, not really worried about seeing them because we won't, until it's too late! The left will not close the border until is too late.

Small cells of 10 or smaller will likely attack drinking water, the electrical grid, thinks like bridges are a prime target and/or large malls.

Once their in the country there is no way to stop them.
Did you really expect much else? br br I'm tired ... (show quote)


There is a way to stop them, but it will never be implemented because it isn't "nice."
Answer every act of terror with one of our own. Kill ISIS members slowly and painfully. These people do not fear death. Everyone fears pain and humiliation.
Make terrorists understand that for every innocent American who dies, one hundred of them will die in great pain.
You cannot reason with fanatics. You can either exterminate them, or make them fear you.
"Nuke em" will not work, because you can't get them all.
The Romans already tried that in the third Punic War.

"Desertum et fac, pacem appellant" won't work, because it's already a desert, although a true Tacitean peace would solve a lot of problems.
Clarkwv is correct in one thing: How do you sanction someone who isnt a country? However, freezing their assets is doable. That will make a bunch of very rich Saudis very unhappy, because guess who provides a good deal of their funding?
Take their money, and make them afraid of us.
I have to say it: "Beggar 'em and bugger 'em."

Once more,
"Oderint, dum metuant."

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Sep 1, 2014 08:54:16   #
Snoopy
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Seriously, I'm curious...many here feel very strongly about this.....what would you do, realistically if you could ? Like saying " blow up the Middle East" is not very realistic....does anyone here have any realistic ideas of what can and should be done?


Anigav6969

Engage in an ALL OUT drone war with armaments tainted with pig blood.

Snoopy

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Sep 1, 2014 08:58:11   #
PeterS
 
Richard Oliver wrote:
If I am the president, I would find the sources of ISIS financial funding and have their assets " FROZEN "SEIZED" and "CONFISCATED". I will also find the sources of their weapons, "SEIZED" and "CONFISCATE" them. If Iran or Syria and other middle eastern Terrorists country are their suppliers, I will call on the United Nations and all the Allies to CONFRONT THEM at the same time place and install a very strong economic or all kinds of SANCTIONS against them. While all these things are going on, THE BOMBING WILL NOT STOP UNTIL the ISIS will turn into ASHES. Now, with regards to all the MUSLIMS in the US, we must root them out if we suspect them of REBELLION and INSURRECTION..Obama do not have a "STRATEGY YET", because, he "VOWED" that America will never be in conflict with ISLAM, and declared, "AMERICA IS NO LONGER A CHRISTIAN NATION".
If I am the president, I would find the sources of... (show quote)

So you would be Obama--Not going to be very popular with conservatives.

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Sep 1, 2014 09:04:06   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
"Nuke em" will not work, because you can't get them all.The Romans already tried that in the third Punic War

If you don't get them the first time, there is always a second time, and a third, a fourth, etc, etc, etc...

We have plenty of nukes, you really do give up too easily--ISIS would love you...

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Sep 1, 2014 09:08:49   #
PeterS
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Have you thought about the fact they he is afraid to take too strong of an action because ISIS and other terror groups have infiltrated this country due to his failure to protect our borders? He is afraid of retaliation on the homefront.

Huh? Aren't they here to attack the homefront? So he is afraid to do anything because they might do what they are what they are going to do?

That makes perfect sense to me...

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Sep 1, 2014 09:15:57   #
PeterS
 
clarkwv wrote:
and if those funds are not in the U S how are you going to force other countries to freeze their funds. ISIS is not a country so how are you going to take sanctions against them? By the was read the First Amendment, America never was a Christian nation. Various religions which claim to be Christian may make up the largest percent of people who practice religion in this country, but that does not make this nation a Christian Nation.

The same way we froze the assets of al-Qaeda--put pressure on nations that hold their assets. And I am glad someone else besides me realizes we aren't a Christian nation--and even if we were, with the 'Christians' we have now, we certainly wouldn't be!!!

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Sep 1, 2014 09:20:39   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
Huh? Aren't they here to attack the homefront? So he is afraid to do anything because they might do what they are what they are going to do?

That makes perfect sense to me...


As long as they can achieve some of their goals by intimidation there is no need to act here so Obama holds off. When the threat of action is no longer working then action takes place. Yeah, it makes sense.

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Sep 1, 2014 09:26:22   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Seriously, I'm curious...many here feel very strongly about this.....what would you do, realistically if you could ? Like saying " blow up the Middle East" is not very realistic....does anyone here have any realistic ideas of what can and should be done?


To put my reply in the proper light:

The Mid East has never not been at war with each other. All the books on atrocities, torture and genocide were written there. There's nothing we could do to them that they haven't done to themselves and each other numerous times. Nuking them is kind compared with what has been done there. They won't stop killing each other until doomsday. Period. They don't want our way of life. Period. Nation building there can't work. Period. So why the f**K are we there? There's nothing they have that we don't already have here or can get elsewhere.

The first thing I would do is massively develop our own energy resources and move our strategic interests here, rather than there. Then I would petition businesses to contribute to the development of hydrogen and fusion. Here that Koch, Soros, Gates and all you other bastards? Wanna show some real leadership and altruism?

At the same time I'd advise all Americans in those nations to get the hell out. I'd even pay for their flights back. If they don't come...that's on them.

I wouldn't send so much as a smoke grenade, in the way of weapons, to the Mid East, since standard operating procedure there for thousands of years has been to, a) switch sides when the battle stops going your way, or b) throw your weapons down and run for it, leaving them for your enemy. There's also c) which is, hide behind the women and children. No matter who you support, you'll end up regretting it.

As long as they left us the hell alone, I'd let them fight it out. The more they kill each other, the fewer of them we'll have to kill later if they decide to export their jihadi bullshit. Any bombs go off in our backyard in the name of Allah...a major city, an oilfield, a refinery or shipyard there gets blown to hell. No boots on the ground. No nation building. Blow everything to hell and leave.

It's not a great solution, but what can you do other than nuke them? It ain't possible to make nice with the folks there with the most guns. Ain't gonna happen.

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Sep 1, 2014 09:26:59   #
PeterS
 
saveamerica wrote:
You have to do four things to fight ISIS and you have to fight to win, not to play with them.

1. You have to send 30,000 troop back to Baghdadi and take over the equipment we left them.

2. You have to bomb and hit as many targets of ISIS equipment and troops as possible in and I'm talking about a minimum of 200 or more missions per 24 hour day. You will weaken them pretty fast.

3. Then you cut off the supply lines from Syria to Iraq by putting about 30,000 troops on the two border and then you start to squeeze them on two flanks and while you are doing that, you move 20,000 troops on the Iraq and Iran border and you have Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Kuwait to close their borders. Now you have ISIS surrounded so, you can bring them to a end.

4. When you are done in Iraq, you will have to move into Syria, where you do the same thing and you can bring Syria civil war to a end.
You have to do four things to fight ISIS and you h... (show quote)

How do you know when you are done? All ISIS has to do is change out of their little ninja outfits into something else and it all starts all over again--and IED's are hell, they don't have to attack us one on one...

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