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Aug 27, 2014 12:17:44   #
greyfox Loc: western mass.
 
Steve700 wrote:
I wouldn't waste much time thinking about it. Chances are Obama will just become our dictator when the inevitable economic collapse or a false flag assassination attempt by one of those far right wing conservative Christian domestic terrorists takes place; either thing, bringing great social chaos, enabling Obama to declare martial law and assume the powers of a dictator through executive orders that are already in place and will come into effect under those conditions. (Including the ability to put off any further elections) And do you really think this radical anti-colonial communist revolutionary/Muslim president just going to walk away and hand over power to someone else ?????????????? when he has the illuminati behind him. (Illuminati = bankstirs, trillionaires and corporate conglomerates who selected Obama for us, and who owns the Obama news that defends him and has the power to determine the timing of the economic collapse)
I wouldn't waste much time thinking about it. Chan... (show quote)

Who in this world would ever believe such a story--Obama has proved to be usless sinse day one--you would be fooling yourself if you deny it)--that thought is a real nitemare that could cause rebellion in this country and i doubt if he would be alive more than a month after it takes effect!!!!!!

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Aug 27, 2014 13:10:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
I have been wondering if anyone read my original posting and followed the link.

I put up two subjects for today and thought the 2nd one was by far the most pertinent. It concerns Medicaid and the effect of the ACA, in the view of a sitting senator. Mr Al Frankin. Felt had some good information. The last I checked on it only Trooper had made a reply and found a point to argue about..

This post is spanking the right wing for its refusal to agree on any candidate so far. Romney becomes the default because he fits well will all that the right stands for at the expense of the tax payers. If anyone read it and did not see the satire, then it was my poor choice to post it.. That was my reason for doing so.

But it is kind of fun to put up a post that gets a good amount of interest.. It is a first for me, most of my junk gets dismissed pretty fast.. Thanks for looking.... All of you have a great day..

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Aug 27, 2014 13:33:26   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
I have been wondering if anyone read my original posting and followed the link.

I put up two subjects for today and thought the 2nd one was by far the most pertinent. It concerns Medicaid and the effect of the ACA, in the view of a sitting senator. Mr Al Frankin. Felt had some good information. The last I checked on it only Trooper had made a reply and found a point to argue about..

This post is spanking the right wing for its refusal to agree on any candidate so far. Romney becomes the default because he fits well will all that the right stands for at the expense of the tax payers. If anyone read it and did not see the satire, then it was my poor choice to post it.. That was my reason for doing so.

But it is kind of fun to put up a post that gets a good amount of interest.. It is a first for me, most of my junk gets dismissed pretty fast.. Thanks for looking.... All of you have a great day..
I have been wondering if anyone read my original p... (show quote)
Spanking the right for not picking a candidate 28 months before an election? Really?

8 years ago Hillary was was the inevitable candidate of the Democrat Party.

I didn't read the article, but anyone that thinks the GOP needs to hurry up and pick a candidate ain't too sharp.

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Aug 27, 2014 13:43:58   #
America Only Loc: From the right hand of God
 
permafrost wrote:
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing friends as to who will run in 2016, lot of opinions, but none seem to travel far. So thought I could toss this out and see how it floats..

While a number of figures in the Republican Party are clearly preparing to jump into the presidential race, each of them is flawed. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky espouses a kind of libertarianism that doesn't sit well with most of the party. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie might rebuild his career, but "bridgegate" has greatly tarnished his reputation. Wisconsin Republican Scott Walker has a scandal of his own. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is untested on the national stage and will try to run as the "immigrant" candidate in a party that has stood by a very hardline position on immigration. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has to contend with the Bush name in an electorate that still harbors negative feelings about his brother's time in the White House. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, who is becoming the most plausible candidate, is too closely associated with the right wing of his party and comes from a caucus of House Republicans who rank incredibly low in the polls.

Despite all the animosity that emerged toward Romney's wealth and his record on economic issues, the fact is that Romney's preference for strong deregulatory and regressive policies fits very comfortably with the major thrust of the party. Since Reagan's presidency in the 1980s, the heart of GOP policies has not been about social and cultural issues, but rather about aiming to weaken the regulatory arm of the government over the economy. On these issues, Romney has impeccable credentials. As a result, Romney will still hold considerable appeal among major donors and conservative activists, like the Koch brothers, as the candidate who will aggressively pursue their core agenda. The money and endorsements can go a long way.

It is not that difficult to see how the nation might witness a presidential campaign in 2016 that includes Mitt Romney. Whether he would be able to take on Hillary Clinton or some of the other potential Democratic nominees remains unclear. But speculation that he might end up as the person the GOP turns to is not that out
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing f... (show quote)

Few months back Romney had a conference at one of his homes, invited top business and GOP officials, made it clear he would not run and would not accept the nomination regardless of anything else.

There may not be a 2016 election....things can happen. More than likely they will.

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Aug 27, 2014 13:52:27   #
James C. Von Schrader
 
How about a Full Wing Candidate for America and God! No; not the energizer bunny! God! Remember the 2nd. Commandment? Love your neighbor as yourself! All the world is our neighbors. We still have to help but; we must reorganize and change our hearts for All! Not a few or one! For All!

I have been lead to service all my life and it may be at this moment that my services are coming to restore and rebuild America! It will be in Gods hands though and not my own!

James C. Von Schrader
Independent Presidential Candidate

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Aug 27, 2014 14:34:53   #
arvadaian
 
James C. Von Schrader wrote:
How about a Full Wing Candidate for America and God! No; not the energizer bunny! God! Remember the 2nd. Commandment? Love your neighbor as yourself! All the world is our neighbors. We still have to help but; we must reorganize and change our hearts for All! Not a few or one! For All!

I have been lead to service all my life and it may be at this moment that my services are coming to restore and rebuild America! It will be in Gods hands though and not my own!

James C. Von Schrader
Independent Presidential Candidate
How about a Full Wing Candidate for America and Go... (show quote)


I'm all for it except for the god part. Guess I will keep looking.

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Aug 27, 2014 15:18:59   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
The name of the game is not simple tax avoidance, buying the politicians, guarantees, that legislation will be passed favorable to the plutocrats such that they will reap untold profits. Think Al Gore and his Smog credit/tax, the solar energy legislation fiascos and a host of other legislation that enriched individuals who were either relatives of or contributed heavily to the politician in numerous ways. Lest you think it is only the current administration that does this be assured that all politicians engage in the same behavior.

Harry Reid has a track record of introducing legislation that directly benefits his family members. How many other interests he represents is not known to me, however I do know that they weren't mine.

How many bailouts have our politicians supported under the guise that it would be bad for the nation to "let the savings and loan industry collapse, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack, GM" and many others who contributed heavily to the political campaigns had their debts reassigned to you and me. They got the profits, we get the bill, courtesy of our purchased and paid for government.

Our current incumbent in the White House (a president he is not) has incurred the largest debt in history in order to stimulate the economy. Ask youself, whose economy got stimulated? It wasn't mine, and from the number of closed businesses in my town, and reports of reduced earninings by retail giants like Wal Mart, it wasn't any other ordinary taxpayers economy.

One thing I know, the size of each individuals debt incurred by the politicians on behalf of the moneyed interests is beyond anything we will ever be able to repay. We will ultimately resort to the printing press and you will be paying a million dollars for an egg just like the Weimar Republic of Germany


Here's my question; if the rich stopped spending so much money, on the above, wouldn't that make their bottom lines even larger? How much sense does it make, to spend 10 million dollars - to avoid 9 million in taxes? Is it the principle of the thing? If so, then spending 100 billion to get Romney into office - is not unreasonable at all.

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Aug 27, 2014 15:35:27   #
arvadaian
 
pafret wrote:
The name of the game is not simple tax avoidance, buying the politicians, guarantees, that legislation will be passed favorable to the plutocrats such that they will reap untold profits. Think Al Gore and his Smog credit/tax, the solar energy legislation fiascos and a host of other legislation that enriched individuals who were either relatives of or contributed heavily to the politician in numerous ways. Lest you think it is only the current administration that does this be assured that all politicians engage in the same behavior.

Harry Reid has a track record of introducing legislation that directly benefits his family members. How many other interests he represents is not known to me, however I do know that they weren't mine.

How many bailouts have our politicians supported under the guise that it would be bad for the nation to "let the savings and loan industry collapse, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack, GM" and many others who contributed heavily to the political campaigns had their debts reassigned to you and me. They got the profits, we get the bill, courtesy of our purchased and paid for government.

Our current incumbent in the White House (a president he is not) has incurred the largest debt in history in order to stimulate the economy. Ask youself, whose economy got stimulated? It wasn't mine, and from the number of closed businesses in my town, and reports of reduced earninings by retail giants like Wal Mart, it wasn't any other ordinary taxpayers economy.

One thing I know, the size of each individuals debt incurred by the politicians on behalf of the moneyed interests is beyond anything we will ever be able to repay. We will ultimately resort to the printing press and you will be paying a million dollars for an egg just like the Weimar Republic of Germany


Here's my question; if the rich stopped spending so much money, on the above, wouldn't that make their bottom lines even larger? How much sense does it make, to spend 10 million dollars - to avoid 9 million in taxes? Is it the principle of the thing? If so, then spending 100 billion to get Romney into office - is not unreasonable at all.
The name of the game is not simple tax avoidance, ... (show quote)


I suppose it doesn't matter which thief is president at least with romney we already know at least part of what he stole and from whom he stole it and we know that that bill was also sent to we the people.

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Aug 27, 2014 16:18:10   #
Nickolai
 
Cherokee38 wrote:
Hate to tell you but Ben is not mouthing words. He knows what the problems are. When you suffer from poor education, that is a CHOICE you made and pay the consequences for later on in life. Most conservative blacks realize their real setback started with LBJ and his war on poverty. 74% of black babies are born out of wedlock, with no father in their lives. They chose the easy way rather than pay the price for the education. They use the F word because they have never learned to express themselves any other way. Its taken 50 years to get down to this point and it will probably take that long to correct the situation. Your use of the term nigger really says what your feelings truely are though and how you really feel.
Hate to tell you but Ben is not mouthing words. H... (show quote)





Are you kidding he is mouthing the same dogma that attracted me to world view in the 1950's It took me 30 years to figure out that It would only work if all men were angels. They are not never will be. And as we've seen over the last 35-40 years of the modern conservative movement and it's policies is that the wealth from an increasing productivity accrues to the top until the few has too much and the many have too little. The FDR New Deal changed all that and produced broad prosperity, and a fairer distribution if the nations wealth but that came to a crashing halt when the nation turned their eyes away from the common good and toward self interest and the cult of ME ME ME.mine mine mine. Now we have a wealth gap as great as it was before the New Deal

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Aug 27, 2014 16:23:45   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Your opinions of Romney may or may not be justified. You should note that I indicted ALL politicians -- Each and every one of them is beholden to special (moneyed) interests and this is a debt that gets repaid regardless of the detriment to the nation or its people.

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Aug 27, 2014 16:23:58   #
arvadaian
 
Nickolai wrote:
Are you kidding he is mouthing the same dogma that attracted me to world view in the 1950's It took me 30 years to figure out that It would only work if all men were angels. They are not never will be. And as we've seen over the last 35-40 years of the modern conservative movement and it's policies is that the wealth from an increasing productivity accrues to the top until the few has too much and the many have too little. The FDR New Deal changed all that and produced broad prosperity, and a fairer distribution if the nations wealth but that came to a crashing halt when the nation turned their eyes away from the common good and toward self interest and the cult of ME ME ME.mine mine mine. Now we have a wealth gap as great as it was before the New Deal
Are you kidding he is mouthing the same dogma that... (show quote)


Thank you sir.

:thumbup:

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Aug 27, 2014 16:33:11   #
arvadaian
 
pafret wrote:
Your opinions of Romney may or may not be justified. You should note that I indicted ALL politicians -- Each and every one of them is beholden to special (moneyed) interests and this is a debt that gets repaid regardless of the detriment to the nation or its people.


I understand that, a good case in point is ronnie ray guns attempt to repay the government of Iran for holding the hostages until after he was elected. It is strange that he would consider holding up his part of the deal in the form of Iran Contra to be more important than looking after the interests of the people who elected him.
It doesn't bother me so much because I didn't vote for him but it was disappointing in that I had always thought of him as at least honorable however misguided.

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Aug 27, 2014 16:39:26   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Call me cynical, but, I can't think too harshly about any politician. They have the same bad smell as smarmy used car salesman insurance huckster. Think Gary Trudeau with Donkey ears and an Elephant snout

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Aug 27, 2014 16:48:03   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
arvadaian wrote:
I understand that, a good case in point is ronnie ray guns attempt to repay the government of Iran for holding the hostages until after he was elected. It is strange that he would consider holding up his part of the deal in the form of Iran Contra to be more important than looking after the interests of the people who elected him.
It doesn't bother me so much because I didn't vote for him but it was disappointing in that I had always thought of him as at least honorable however misguided.

Hahaha... You tin-hats are a hoot. So Reagan felt some sort of obligation to pay of Iran before Iran called in some debt collection agency...

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Aug 27, 2014 16:50:02   #
arvadaian
 
pafret wrote:
Call me cynical, but, I can't think too harshly about any politician. They have the same bad smell as smarmy used car salesman insurance huckster. Think Gary Trudeau with Donkey ears and an Elephant snout


Your probably right,I tend to invest too much in the unrealistic hope that perhaps one day one of them will prove to be who he says he/she is.
It is my fantasy and I am probably sticking to it.

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