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Aug 26, 2014 13:27:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing friends as to who will run in 2016, lot of opinions, but none seem to travel far. So thought I could toss this out and see how it floats..

While a number of figures in the Republican Party are clearly preparing to jump into the presidential race, each of them is flawed. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky espouses a kind of libertarianism that doesn't sit well with most of the party. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie might rebuild his career, but "bridgegate" has greatly tarnished his reputation. Wisconsin Republican Scott Walker has a scandal of his own. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is untested on the national stage and will try to run as the "immigrant" candidate in a party that has stood by a very hardline position on immigration. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has to contend with the Bush name in an electorate that still harbors negative feelings about his brother's time in the White House. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, who is becoming the most plausible candidate, is too closely associated with the right wing of his party and comes from a caucus of House Republicans who rank incredibly low in the polls.

Despite all the animosity that emerged toward Romney's wealth and his record on economic issues, the fact is that Romney's preference for strong deregulatory and regressive policies fits very comfortably with the major thrust of the party. Since Reagan's presidency in the 1980s, the heart of GOP policies has not been about social and cultural issues, but rather about aiming to weaken the regulatory arm of the government over the economy. On these issues, Romney has impeccable credentials. As a result, Romney will still hold considerable appeal among major donors and conservative activists, like the Koch brothers, as the candidate who will aggressively pursue their core agenda. The money and endorsements can go a long way.

It is not that difficult to see how the nation might witness a presidential campaign in 2016 that includes Mitt Romney. Whether he would be able to take on Hillary Clinton or some of the other potential Democratic nominees remains unclear. But speculation that he might end up as the person the GOP turns to is not that out

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Aug 26, 2014 13:45:47   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
There probably won't be a right wing candidate.

Probably another 'moderate' like the last several GOP candidates.

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Aug 26, 2014 13:52:57   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
I'd like to see Judge Andrew Napolitano run for POTUS. There was a petition a few weeks ago to try to get him to run and I signed it. I didn't bookmark it, but I'm sure with a little research, a person could find it.

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Aug 26, 2014 13:57:02   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
I'd like to see Judge Andrew Napolitano run for POTUS. There was a petition a few weeks ago to try to get him to run and I signed it. I didn't bookmark it, but I'm sure with a little research, a person could find it.
The GOP establishment may hate him as much as the Democrats.

He is his own man.

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Aug 26, 2014 14:04:36   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
I'd like to see Judge Andrew Napolitano run for POTUS. There was a petition a few weeks ago to try to get him to run and I signed it. I didn't bookmark it, but I'm sure with a little research, a person could find it.


Right now,he would be my man. Has he served in any of the military branches? I'd like to see a candidate that had actually served in the armed forces. Maybe I am asking too much.

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Aug 26, 2014 14:17:04   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
cant beleve wrote:
Right now,he would be my man. Has he served in any of the military branches? I'd like to see a candidate that had actually served in the armed forces. Maybe I am asking too much.


I don't know if he's a Veteran. I suppose one could find out by doing a little research.

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Aug 26, 2014 14:27:49   #
Steve700
 
I wouldn't waste much time thinking about it. Chances are Obama will just become our dictator when the inevitable economic collapse or a false flag assassination attempt by one of those far right wing conservative Christian domestic terrorists takes place; either thing, bringing great social chaos, enabling Obama to declare martial law and assume the powers of a dictator through executive orders that are already in place and will come into effect under those conditions. (Including the ability to put off any further elections) And do you really think this radical anti-colonial communist revolutionary/Muslim president just going to walk away and hand over power to someone else ?????????????? when he has the illuminati behind him. (Illuminati = bankstirs, trillionaires and corporate conglomerates who selected Obama for us, and who owns the Obama news that defends him and has the power to determine the timing of the economic collapse)

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Aug 26, 2014 14:32:55   #
petertimber
 
Liberalism is a mental disorder. What goes around comes around and since liberals lack morality what comes around is a wallop!

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Aug 26, 2014 14:37:22   #
Steve700
 
petertimber wrote:
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
do you mean like this ?

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Aug 26, 2014 14:43:27   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Peaver Bogart wrote:
I don't know if he's a Veteran. I suppose one could find out by doing a little research.
I remember during the 2004 campaign how necessary Kerry's months of active duty service was.

I don't think a Democrat would support a candidate without military service, so if Judge A wants Democrat votes, he needs to be an Active Service Veteran.

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Aug 26, 2014 14:47:58   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
permafrost wrote:
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing friends as to who will run in 2016, lot of opinions, but none seem to travel far. So thought I could toss this out and see how it floats..

While a number of figures in the Republican Party are clearly preparing to jump into the presidential race, each of them is flawed. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky espouses a kind of libertarianism that doesn't sit well with most of the party. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie might rebuild his career, but "bridgegate" has greatly tarnished his reputation. Wisconsin Republican Scott Walker has a scandal of his own. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is untested on the national stage and will try to run as the "immigrant" candidate in a party that has stood by a very hardline position on immigration. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has to contend with the Bush name in an electorate that still harbors negative feelings about his brother's time in the White House. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, who is becoming the most plausible candidate, is too closely associated with the right wing of his party and comes from a caucus of House Republicans who rank incredibly low in the polls.

Despite all the animosity that emerged toward Romney's wealth and his record on economic issues, the fact is that Romney's preference for strong deregulatory and regressive policies fits very comfortably with the major thrust of the party. Since Reagan's presidency in the 1980s, the heart of GOP policies has not been about social and cultural issues, but rather about aiming to weaken the regulatory arm of the government over the economy. On these issues, Romney has impeccable credentials. As a result, Romney will still hold considerable appeal among major donors and conservative activists, like the Koch brothers, as the candidate who will aggressively pursue their core agenda. The money and endorsements can go a long way.

It is not that difficult to see how the nation might witness a presidential campaign in 2016 that includes Mitt Romney. Whether he would be able to take on Hillary Clinton or some of the other potential Democratic nominees remains unclear. But speculation that he might end up as the person the GOP turns to is not that out
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing f... (show quote)


You are absolutely right! The candidates are not picked by the populace, nor are they picked by the various caucuses or committees. They are picked by the financial backers, who, to a man ( or women), would LOVE to see the Gov. get out of the way of profits. The rich are constantly frustrated by regulation, in their bid to make as much money as possible. They spend enormous amounts of money on lawyers, trying to work around regulations. They spend an even larger amount of money, trying to influence legislation. Then , they spend even more money, trying to influence elections.

Here's my question; if the rich stopped spending so much money, on the above, wouldn't that make their bottom lines even larger? How much sense does it make, to spend 10 million dollars - to avoid 9 million in taxes? Is it the principle of the thing? If so, then spending 100 billion to get Romney into office - is not unreasonable at all.

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Aug 26, 2014 14:49:09   #
arvadaian
 
permafrost wrote:
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing friends as to who will run in 2016, lot of opinions, but none seem to travel far. So thought I could toss this out and see how it floats..

While a number of figures in the Republican Party are clearly preparing to jump into the presidential race, each of them is flawed. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky espouses a kind of libertarianism that doesn't sit well with most of the party. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie might rebuild his career, but "bridgegate" has greatly tarnished his reputation. Wisconsin Republican Scott Walker has a scandal of his own. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is untested on the national stage and will try to run as the "immigrant" candidate in a party that has stood by a very hardline position on immigration. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has to contend with the Bush name in an electorate that still harbors negative feelings about his brother's time in the White House. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, who is becoming the most plausible candidate, is too closely associated with the right wing of his party and comes from a caucus of House Republicans who rank incredibly low in the polls.

Despite all the animosity that emerged toward Romney's wealth and his record on economic issues, the fact is that Romney's preference for strong deregulatory and regressive policies fits very comfortably with the major thrust of the party. Since Reagan's presidency in the 1980s, the heart of GOP policies has not been about social and cultural issues, but rather about aiming to weaken the regulatory arm of the government over the economy. On these issues, Romney has impeccable credentials. As a result, Romney will still hold considerable appeal among major donors and conservative activists, like the Koch brothers, as the candidate who will aggressively pursue their core agenda. The money and endorsements can go a long way.

It is not that difficult to see how the nation might witness a presidential campaign in 2016 that includes Mitt Romney. Whether he would be able to take on Hillary Clinton or some of the other potential Democratic nominees remains unclear. But speculation that he might end up as the person the GOP turns to is not that out
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing f... (show quote)


Of course Romney will be the candidate. He has nothing else to do since he retired at 40 something on 350 million of other peoples retirement dollars. At least he and the people who will vote for him won't be bothered when he is called a thief.

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Aug 26, 2014 14:54:50   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
arvadaian wrote:
Of course Romney will be the candidate. He has nothing else to do since he retired at 40 something on 350 million of other peoples retirement dollars. At least he and the people who will vote for him won't be bothered when he is called a thief.
They'll vote for Hillary because she earned her money by snatching it out of the hands of poor kids trying to get an education so that they could provide for themselves and not stay on welfare.

Newsflash.

The "Rich-Envy" thing may not work this time.

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Aug 26, 2014 14:59:10   #
Cherokee38 Loc: Atlanta
 
Permafrost, you did not mention Ben Carson, who I think would be ideal. We need fresh blood, and not committed to any party standards.

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Aug 26, 2014 15:03:33   #
VladimirPee
 
I agree. I think at this early stage Romney would be the favorite if he chooses to run. Even though he has always been a moderate more centrist Republican the far left extreme Obama makes Romney look conservative. There are no Dem's on the horizon who have a better and more successful resume.


permafrost wrote:
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing friends as to who will run in 2016, lot of opinions, but none seem to travel far. So thought I could toss this out and see how it floats..

While a number of figures in the Republican Party are clearly preparing to jump into the presidential race, each of them is flawed. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky espouses a kind of libertarianism that doesn't sit well with most of the party. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie might rebuild his career, but "bridgegate" has greatly tarnished his reputation. Wisconsin Republican Scott Walker has a scandal of his own. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida is untested on the national stage and will try to run as the "immigrant" candidate in a party that has stood by a very hardline position on immigration. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has to contend with the Bush name in an electorate that still harbors negative feelings about his brother's time in the White House. Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, who is becoming the most plausible candidate, is too closely associated with the right wing of his party and comes from a caucus of House Republicans who rank incredibly low in the polls.

Despite all the animosity that emerged toward Romney's wealth and his record on economic issues, the fact is that Romney's preference for strong deregulatory and regressive policies fits very comfortably with the major thrust of the party. Since Reagan's presidency in the 1980s, the heart of GOP policies has not been about social and cultural issues, but rather about aiming to weaken the regulatory arm of the government over the economy. On these issues, Romney has impeccable credentials. As a result, Romney will still hold considerable appeal among major donors and conservative activists, like the Koch brothers, as the candidate who will aggressively pursue their core agenda. The money and endorsements can go a long way.

It is not that difficult to see how the nation might witness a presidential campaign in 2016 that includes Mitt Romney. Whether he would be able to take on Hillary Clinton or some of the other potential Democratic nominees remains unclear. But speculation that he might end up as the person the GOP turns to is not that out
I have been looking for ideas from my right wing f... (show quote)

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