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Apr 15, 2024 10:01:54   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
proud republican wrote:
Bull crap!! They're here illegally..that means they're ILLEGAL MIGRANTS!!..

The fact is simple enough for anyone with a clear mind to understand. It's not against the law to BE here. It's only against the law to cross the border without permission.

I'll use a simple analogy to illustrate how ridiculous your claim is.

If you are driving to work at 50 mph on a road that has a posted speed limit of 40 mph. It means you broke the law getting to work. But there is no actual law that says you can't BE at work.

I KNOW you have broken the law at some point... we all have. You either rolled through a stop sign, went a little over the speed limit. Maybe you even ate pickles in Trenton on a Sunday (which is actually illegal) But does that make you an illegal person? Of course not. This is precisely why the law does NOT refer to undocumented immigrants as "illegals".

But like I said, your post isn't about the law, it's about your bigotry and for that it makes all the sense in the world to call them "illegals" or if you're like Trump, you don't even have to stop there... You can all them murders and rapists and "bad people" from shit-hole countries. Whatever you think will demonize them and promote your hatred and racism.

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Apr 15, 2024 10:03:13   #
Radar OReilly
 
straightUp wrote:
First of all, there is no such thing as an "illegal alien". They are either documented or undocumented. It's hard to tell anymore if people are being derogatory or just too ignorant to know any better. But I don't mind correcting them every single time.

Secondly, no. I don't think undocumented aliens should be able to vote for one very simple reason. They don't have legitimate jobs that siphon taxes from their earnings. I think the right to vote should be based on their contributions not some idiot status that doesn't really mean anything. That means that I don't think those lazy, good-for-nothing people who don't work or prefer to steal but have citizenship simply because they were born here should have a right to vote either. Being born here doesn't mean shit. Most of the rats and fleas in America were born here too. That's how senseless it is to grant someone a privilege, simply because of where they were born.

As for undocumented immigrants, they are not currently allowed to vote and there's no plans to make that happen either. So, it's really not a problem. You might THINK it is if you believe the conspiracy theories.

Do the Democrats depend votes from undocumented immigrants? No. That's what the losers on the right want you think but it's simply not true. The nugget of truth that might be spawning this conspiracy theory is that Democrats do get a lot of support from naturalized citizens... These are the documented immigrants that took the extra step to become citizens. Most of these immigrants didn't cross the southern border. Most of them flew here from Europe and Asia with visas to take highly paid jobs for which they are better qualified than many American victims of failed systems like homeschooling.

It just fits in with the widely observed truth that well-educated people in the middle-class don't vote Republican anymore.
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Good post straightUp

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Apr 15, 2024 10:06:30   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
straightUp wrote:
The fact is simple enough for anyone with a clear mind to understand. It's not against the law to BE here. It's only against the law to cross the border without permission.

I'll use a simple analogy to illustrate how ridiculous your claim is.

If you are driving to work at 50 mph on a road that has a posted speed limit of 40 mph. It means you broke the law getting to work. But there is no actual law that says you can't be at work.

I KNOW you have broken the law at some point... we all have. You either rolled through a stop sign, went a little over the speed limit. But does that make you an illegal person? Of course not. This is precisely why the law does NOT refer to undocumented immigrants as "illegals".

But like I said, your post isn't about the law, it's about your bigotry and for that it makes all the sense in the world to call them "illegals" or if you're like Trump, you don't even have to stop there... You can all them murders and rapists and bad people. Whatever you think will promote your hatred and racism.
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First of all I do NOT hate immigrants, since my family immigrated here from Soviet Union LEGALLY.. I support immigrants who come here LEGALLY.. You know NOTHING about me and why I support who I support, so I suggest you move on!

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Apr 15, 2024 10:10:27   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
DASHY wrote:
When Fox News tells you something about someone, do you flat out believe them and repeat the "something" as a fact? Do you ever think of checking out the "fact" for yourself? In this case you could actually listen to a Biden speech to hear some really good sentence structure.


What an obnoxious joke. There is not one single negative lie ever told about Trump from your DNC State Controlled Marxist Media Propaganda Bureau's that you wouldn't fall on a dull sword defending.

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Apr 15, 2024 10:12:22   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
padremike wrote:
What an obnoxious joke. There is not one single negative lie ever told about Trump from your DNC State Controlled Marxist Media Propaganda Bureau's that you wouldn't fall on a dull sword defending.


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Apr 15, 2024 10:22:40   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
proud republican wrote:
First of all I do NOT hate immigrants

That's what you say, but your rants prove otherwise.

proud republican wrote:

since my family immigrated here from Soviet Union LEGALLY.. I support immigrants who come here LEGALLY..

That's what most bigots say to sanitize their hatred. They want to keep as many immigrants out as possible because they hate them but they let a few of them in "legally" so they can tell everyone that it's not about hate, it's about a respect for the law.

proud republican wrote:

You know NOTHING about me and why I support who I support, so I suggest you move on!

You tell us all the time who you support and why. Even your handle... "Proud Republican" tells us a lot about you. And it doesn't matter anyway. This isn't about YOU. This is about what you post. So, keep posting your hateful bigotry and I'll keep exposing them for what they are. Deal with it.

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Apr 15, 2024 10:29:28   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
DASHY wrote:
I doubt that Traitor Trump is spending his own money on attorney fees. That expense is coming from you out of his campaign funds.


I've yet to find a single one of your leftist women who aren't crazier than the proverbial schit house rat. What the bloody hell is wrong with all of you? There isn't a combined thimble full of common sense and balance amongst all of you. What is it that makes you so stupid? Does your advocacy for killing babies kill your conscience, your soul, and make you all shun Truth and goodness like it's a plague?

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Apr 15, 2024 10:37:51   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Radar OReilly wrote:
Good post straightUp

Thanks... Yeah, I just don't have much tolerance for all this entitlement BS. I am a believer in meritocracy and when I see people working their assess off and paying taxes it doesn't matter to me if they are citizens or not, I think they deserve a voice. By the same token, I don't think someone leaching off the system deserves a voice simply because they were born here.

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Apr 15, 2024 10:41:31   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
First of all, there is no such thing as an "illegal alien". They are either documented or undocumented. It's hard to tell anymore if people are being derogatory or just too ignorant to know any better. But I don't mind correcting them every single time.

Secondly, no. I don't think undocumented aliens should be able to vote for one very simple reason. They don't have legitimate jobs that siphon taxes from their earnings. I think the right to vote should be based on their contributions not some idiot status that doesn't really mean anything. That means that I don't think those lazy, good-for-nothing people who don't work or prefer to steal but have citizenship simply because they were born here should have a right to vote either. Being born here doesn't mean shit. Most of the rats and fleas in America were born here too. That's how senseless it is to grant someone a privilege, simply because of where they were born.

As for undocumented immigrants, they are not currently allowed to vote and there's no plans to make that happen either. So, it's really not a problem. You might THINK it is if you believe the conspiracy theories.

Do the Democrats depend votes from undocumented immigrants? No. That's what the losers on the right want you think but it's simply not true. The nugget of truth that might be spawning this conspiracy theory is that Democrats do get a lot of support from naturalized citizens... These are the documented immigrants that took the extra step to become citizens. Most of these immigrants didn't cross the southern border. Most of them flew here from Europe and Asia with visas to take highly paid jobs for which they are better qualified than many American victims of failed systems like homeschooling.

It just fits in with the widely observed truth that well-educated people in the middle-class don't vote Republican anymore.
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"First of all, there is no such thing as an "illegal alien". They are either documented or undocumented." Stupid bastard!

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Apr 15, 2024 10:42:01   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
straightUp wrote:
First of all, there is no such thing as an "illegal alien". They are either documented or undocumented. It's hard to tell anymore if people are being derogatory or just too ignorant to know any better. But I don't mind correcting them every single time.

Secondly, no. I don't think undocumented aliens should be able to vote for one very simple reason. They don't have legitimate jobs that siphon taxes from their earnings. I think the right to vote should be based on their contributions not some idiot status that doesn't really mean anything. That means that I don't think those lazy, good-for-nothing people who don't work or prefer to steal but have citizenship simply because they were born here should have a right to vote either. Being born here doesn't mean shit. Most of the rats and fleas in America were born here too. That's how senseless it is to grant someone a privilege, simply because of where they were born.

As for undocumented immigrants, they are not currently allowed to vote and there's no plans to make that happen either. So, it's really not a problem. You might THINK it is if you believe the conspiracy theories.

Do the Democrats depend votes from undocumented immigrants? No. That's what the losers on the right want you think but it's simply not true. The nugget of truth that might be spawning this conspiracy theory is that Democrats do get a lot of support from naturalized citizens... These are the documented immigrants that took the extra step to become citizens. Most of these immigrants didn't cross the southern border. Most of them flew here from Europe and Asia with visas to take highly paid jobs for which they are better qualified than many American victims of failed systems like homeschooling.

It just fits in with the widely observed truth that well-educated people in the middle-class don't vote Republican anymore.
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The terms documented and undocumented are the inventions of our progressive, politically correct government or movement. The term illegal alien has been pushed out so as not to cast negative aspersions on those who break laws. Seems like the term undocumented might be giving way to the new term "newcomers" although that has gotten so much criticism as being ridiculous that it may not last. You tell us what you believe or don't believe but what about what the Constitution says. Does it say one must have a legitimate job in order to legally vote?

You are making some pretty broad statements about conspiracy theories and how well-educated people should be Democrats or they just aren't worth anything. Would you possibly consider re-reading you statements and giving them a bit more thought?

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Apr 15, 2024 10:45:11   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
padremike wrote:
"First of all, there is no such thing as an "illegal alien". They are either documented or undocumented." Stupid bastard!


No, Mike, they are now apparently considered newcomers.

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Apr 15, 2024 11:02:28   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
padremike wrote:
I've yet to find a single one of your leftist women who aren't crazier than the proverbial schit house rat.

I'm sure you have, probably every day. Every time you see a woman in a professional capacity, such as a doctor, or a CEO or a marine biologist there's an exceedingly good chance she is left-leaning, but most people don't talk politics while in a professional capacity, so you wouldn't know.

padremike wrote:

What the bloody hell is wrong with all of you?

There's nothing wrong. We just just tend to be rational, rather than simply subscribing to someone else's assertions without question and that really pisses you off.

padremike wrote:

There isn't a combined thimble full of common sense and balance amongst all of you. What is it that makes you so stupid?

WTF do you know about common sense?

padremike wrote:

Does your advocacy for killing babies kill your conscience, your soul, and make you all shun Truth and goodness like it's a plague?

You're the one supporting the killing of babies, not us. For instance, it's the right-wing that supports Israel's slaughter of babies in cold blood in Gaza. It's also the Republican attack on state-funded support programs like food stamps and accessible health-care that kill babies through malnutrition and disease.

If you're referring to abortion, that's the practice of terminating the development of embryos. Embryos are not babies. Embryos turn into babies ONLY if they are allowed to develop. You morons are insisting that embryos ARE babies in an effort to win a political fight and establish a tyranny of state control.

Anyway, it's time for breakfast, I'm going to make some scrambled eggs... Oh wait, excuse me... scrambled chickens. LOL

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Apr 15, 2024 11:04:06   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
No, Mike, they are now apparently considered newcomers.


I'd gladly TRADE 3 hard working "illegal aliens" providing we could permanently deport jackasses like straight- up and his family to the country of origin of the illegals. It would be a gain gain for America.

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Apr 15, 2024 11:12:41   #
Cornflakes Loc: Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
The fact is simple enough for anyone with a clear mind to understand. It's not against the law to BE here. It's only against the law to cross the border without permission.

I'll use a simple analogy to illustrate how ridiculous your claim is.

If you are driving to work at 50 mph on a road that has a posted speed limit of 40 mph. It means you broke the law getting to work. But there is no actual law that says you can't BE at work.

I KNOW you have broken the law at some point... we all have. You either rolled through a stop sign, went a little over the speed limit. Maybe you even ate pickles in Trenton on a Sunday (which is actually illegal) But does that make you an illegal person? Of course not. This is precisely why the law does NOT refer to undocumented immigrants as "illegals".

But like I said, your post isn't about the law, it's about your bigotry and for that it makes all the sense in the world to call them "illegals" or if you're like Trump, you don't even have to stop there... You can all them murders and rapists and "bad people" from shit-hole countries. Whatever you think will demonize them and promote your hatred and racism.
The fact is simple enough for anyone with a clear ... (show quote)


Here’s one for yah, step past a fence post painted purple/ the owner has done that to warn trespassers that they will use whatever force is necessary to remove them/ for my money paint the border wall purple and skip the migrant hassle ( you only will have to forcibly remove a few in broad daylight and the message becomes clear) should you come by night then you want see the dawn🤠

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Apr 15, 2024 11:22:42   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
straightUp wrote:
You're the one supporting the killing of babies, not us. For instance, it's the right-wing that supports Israel's slaughter of babies in cold blood in Gaza. It's also the Republican attack on state-funded support programs like food stamps and accessible health-care that kill babies through malnutrition and disease.

If you're referring to abortion, that's the practice of terminating the development of embryos. Embryos are not babies. Embryos turn into babies ONLY if they are allowed to develop. You morons are insisting that embryos ARE babies in an effort to win a political fight and establish a tyranny of state control.

Anyway, it's time for breakfast, I'm going to make some scrambled eggs... Oh wait, excuse me... scrambled chickens. LOL
You're the one supporting the killing of babies, n... (show quote)


You are one of the most backward arrogant anti-American jackasses on this forum. Most of us have yet to find anything about you worth salvaging. It primarily because you're morally bankrupt and spiritually constipated. You don't rank high enough to be in the phylum of a common backyard shit beetle. Now that we've addressed your strengths shall we describe your weaknesses?

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