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Feb 26, 2024 14:44:30   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
There are so many flaws and presumptions in this, that I don’t know where to begin.

First off, I could find not one single mention of education in the entireties of The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States nor any of the 27 amendments, including the first ten, The Bill of Rights. Therefore, by the Ninth & Tenth Amendments, the federal government has no right to interfere in any way whatsoever with it. That’s how it’s unconstitutional and it therefore is incumbent upon educational loan supporters to prove that it is.

The program began in earnest in 1965, during the presidency, wouldn’t you know, of Lyndon B. Johnson. We had gotten along for 189 years without such ‘support’ and we were doing just fine. We were producing engineers, physicians, teachers in abundance.

The reason our colleges and universities are so expensive is because of these loan programs. Colleges & universities, especially the professors, have loved them because they can inflate their costs and salaries with impunity, immune from the usual vagaries of the law of supply & demand.

Nice, isn't it?
There are so many flaws and presumptions in this, ... (show quote)


The Harvard University endowment, valued at $49.444 billion as of June 30, 2022, is the largest academic endowment in the world. Its value increased by over 10 billion dollars in fiscal year 2021, ending the year with its largest sum in history.

As of 2021, the university's endowment was valued at $42.3 billion, the third largest of any educational institution. The Yale University Library, serving all constituent schools, holds more than 15 million volumes and is the third-largest academic library in the United States.

Stanford
Endowment. Stanford's $36.5 billion endowment (as of Aug. 31, 2023) provides an enduring source of financial support for the fulfillment of the university's mission of teaching, learning, and research. It disbursed a $1.7 billion payout to support vital academic programs and financial aid during the fiscal year.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
At the end of the fiscal year, MIT's endowment funds totaled $24.6 billion, excluding pledges. MIT's endowment is intended to support current and future generations of MIT scholars with the resources needed to advance knowledge, research, and innovation.

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Feb 26, 2024 15:09:53   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Another Biden Assault on The Constitution!


Pres. Joseph Robinette Biden is planning to absolve many billions of dollars of college loan. This is an obvious move to curry favor with college loan debtors in an age group whose support that he is rapidly losing but desperately needs to keep. A previous attempt was ruled unconstitutional by good majority of The Supreme Court.

Although there are some nuances of differences in the two cases, this attempt will likely be declared unconstitutional also. That will be the SECOND action of his that will be found to be unconstitutional, not just illegal but unconstitutional.

Where are the liberal keepers of our conscience over this? Where’s Jack Smith? Where’s Merrick Garland?
As usual, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durban and the other liberal blowhards, such as those of OPP, about this blatant bribe of the electorate, remain silent. This is corruption of the greatest magnitude. It completely invalidates their authority but they will continue.

Self- righteous phonies!
Another Biden Assault on The Constitution! br br ... (show quote)


is it any worse than the Trump tax cuts for the 1 %. lets have the courts settle this , have congress pass a border deal now

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Feb 26, 2024 15:21:36   #
martsiva
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


The court ruled that the Heroes Act used by the head of Education only had the power change the rules for getting loans - NOT the power to eliminate student debt!! Where is the money coming from to cover these loans?? You have a habit of thinking money for this, money to keep sending aid to Ukraine, money for the $150 billion dollars it has cost this country EVERY YEAR since Biden took office to take care of illegals just grows on trees!!

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Feb 26, 2024 15:26:45   #
MatthewlovesAyn Loc: Ohio
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


If it's not in the Constitution, it's unconstitutional. See the 10th amendment. If a state VOTES to forego student debt, that would be legal.

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Feb 26, 2024 16:21:28   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Very good, SeaLass!

I have to laugh every time that I hear or read someone saying that the first thing we need to solve some conjured up social problem is (drum roll please, maestro) education. I immediately think, suppose we educated a generation of Hitlers? The problem also needs increases in billions of tax dollars.



I must agree with your sense of humor, it is well placed. Seems like no matter how big a political disaster comes out of a decision a politician's first response is "We didn't get our message across effectively!" I would say that educating a generation of Hitlers would unquestionably fall on the indoctrination side of the fence. As for the money, how much are we spending now and what are we getting for it???

By the way, all compliments are gladly and humbly accepted .

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Feb 26, 2024 16:50:13   #
Knightlady
 
SeaLass wrote:
I must agree with your sense of humor, it is well placed. Seems like no matter how big a political disaster comes out of a decision a politician's first response is "We didn't get our message across effectively!" I would say that educating a generation of Hitlers would unquestionably fall on the indoctrination side of the fence. As for the money, how much are we spending now and what are we getting for it???

By the way, all compliments are gladly and humbly accepted .
I must agree with your sense of humor, it is well ... (show quote)


Your emoji has a nice smile

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Feb 26, 2024 16:55:44   #
Proud American Patriot
 
America 1 wrote:
The Harvard University endowment, valued at $49.444 billion as of June 30, 2022, is the largest academic endowment in the world. Its value increased by over 10 billion dollars in fiscal year 2021, ending the year with its largest sum in history.

As of 2021, the university's endowment was valued at $42.3 billion, the third largest of any educational institution. The Yale University Library, serving all constituent schools, holds more than 15 million volumes and is the third-largest academic library in the United States.

Stanford
Endowment. Stanford's $36.5 billion endowment (as of Aug. 31, 2023) provides an enduring source of financial support for the fulfillment of the university's mission of teaching, learning, and research. It disbursed a $1.7 billion payout to support vital academic programs and financial aid during the fiscal year.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology
At the end of the fiscal year, MIT's endowment funds totaled $24.6 billion, excluding pledges. MIT's endowment is intended to support current and future generations of MIT scholars with the resources needed to advance knowledge, research, and innovation.
The Harvard University endowment, valued at $49.44... (show quote)


From my understanding, Russia, China etc donated billions to our schools to help develop the curriculum. Will not provide citations to libtards.

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Feb 26, 2024 19:12:09   #
ed4short Loc: New Hampshire
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


Did you get enough feedback, FJB lover

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Feb 26, 2024 20:26:54   #
Proud American Patriot
 
ed4short wrote:
Did you get enough feedback, FJB lover


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Feb 26, 2024 22:24:16   #
Bassman65
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


College debt has been an issue for years now Salt. These young people can’t plead ignorance and nobody forced them to sign. It seems more than a little unfair to taxpayers who have paid their own way. What are these people going to do for the country that pays their debt?

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Feb 27, 2024 08:55:25   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Proud American Patriot wrote:
From my understanding, Russia, China, etc donated billions to our schools to help develop the curriculum. Will not provide citations to libtards.


China funneled $17M into ‘Little Red Classrooms’ in US schools
A new report reveals China has invested over $17M in American schools
A former intelligence officer is concerned about the impact on national security
Rep. Jim Banks is urging the Department of Education to take action
https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/china/report-china-funneled-17m-into-little-red-classrooms-in-us-schools/

Russia sending hundreds of teachers to Ukraine to offer ‘corrected’ education
Russia is reportedly offering teachers money, transportation, and other resources to incentivize them to teach a “corrected” curriculum to Ukrainians in Russian-occupied territory.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/3563982-russia-sending-hundreds-of-teachers-to-ukraine-to-offer-corrected-education-report/

A New York City medical school goes tuition-free thanks to a $1 billion gift
Ruth Gottesman announced the gift and its purpose to students and faculty at Albert Einstein College of Medicine Monday bringing some in the audience to tears and others to their feet, cheering.
Gottesman, 93, has been affiliated with the college for 55 years and is the chairperson of its board of trustees.
The gift is intended to attract a diverse pool of applicants who otherwise might not have the means to attend. It will also let students graduate without debt that can take decades to repay, college administrators said.
Tuition at Einstein is $59,458 per year.
The average medical school debt in the U.S. is $202,453, excluding undergraduate debt, according to the Education Data Initiative.

“Each year, well over 100 students enter Albert Einstein College of Medicine in their quest for degrees in medicine and science,” Gottesman said.
“They leave as superbly trained scientists and compassionate and knowledgeable physicians, with the expertise to find new ways to prevent diseases and provide the finest health care.”
https://apnews.com/article/free-medical-school-tuition-einstein-new-york-c43d8184d704d3e40328c6f97d330adb

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Feb 27, 2024 09:26:04   #
Proud American Patriot
 
Go Mrs Gottesman!!

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Feb 27, 2024 11:58:18   #
DaWg44
 
SeaLass wrote:
I must agree with your sense of humor, it is well placed. Seems like no matter how big a political disaster comes out of a decision a politician's first response is "We didn't get our message across effectively!" I would say that educating a generation of Hitlers would unquestionably fall on the indoctrination side of the fence. As for the money, how much are we spending now and what are we getting for it???

By the way, all compliments are gladly and humbly accepted .
I must agree with your sense of humor, it is well ... (show quote)


Do you know the most successful pirate in history was a Chinese woman who directed 80,000 pirates & a fleet larger than most countries?

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Feb 27, 2024 16:06:12   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
DaWg44 wrote:
Do you know the most successful pirate in history was a Chinese woman who directed 80,000 pirates & a fleet larger than most countries?


No I didn't, but there have been several women who were noted pirates, and they didn't even a lawyer .

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Feb 27, 2024 16:51:53   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
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Birdman, you forgot to mention Trump. He believes that a President is exempt from the law both during and after he is president! Being friendly to immigrants is a national value. Just read the poem on the Statue of Liberty. You don't seem like you want to lift your lamp besides the golden door!

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