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Feb 25, 2024 08:51:49   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Another Biden Assault on The Constitution!


Pres. Joseph Robinette Biden is planning to absolve many billions of dollars of college loan. This is an obvious move to curry favor with college loan debtors in an age group whose support that he is rapidly losing but desperately needs to keep. A previous attempt was ruled unconstitutional by good majority of The Supreme Court.

Although there are some nuances of differences in the two cases, this attempt will likely be declared unconstitutional also. That will be the SECOND action of his that will be found to be unconstitutional, not just illegal but unconstitutional.

Where are the liberal keepers of our conscience over this? Where’s Jack Smith? Where’s Merrick Garland?
As usual, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durban and the other liberal blowhards, such as those of OPP, about this blatant bribe of the electorate, remain silent. This is corruption of the greatest magnitude. It completely invalidates their authority but they will continue.

Self- righteous phonies!

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Feb 25, 2024 08:53:14   #
BIRDMAN
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Another Biden Assault on The Constitution!


Pres. Joseph Robinette Biden is planning to absolve many billions of dollars of college loan. This is an obvious move to curry favor with college loan debtors in an age group whose support that he is rapidly losing but desperately needs to keep. A previous attempt was ruled unconstitutional by good majority of The Supreme Court.

Although there are some nuances of differences in the two cases, this attempt will likely be declared unconstitutional also. That will be the SECOND action of his that will be found to be unconstitutional, not just illegal but unconstitutional.

Where are the liberal keepers of our conscience over this? Where’s Jack Smith? Where’s Merrick Garland?
As usual, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durban and the other liberal blowhards, such as those of OPP, about this blatant bribe of the electorate, remain silent. This is corruption of the greatest magnitude. It completely invalidates their authority but they will continue.

Self- righteous phonies!
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Feb 25, 2024 09:03:36   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
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Wow. Founding fathers would have hung him.

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Feb 25, 2024 09:05:16   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Another Biden Assault on The Constitution!


Pres. Joseph Robinette Biden is planning to absolve many billions of dollars of college loan. This is an obvious move to curry favor with college loan debtors in an age group whose support that he is rapidly losing but desperately needs to keep. A previous attempt was ruled unconstitutional by good majority of The Supreme Court.

Although there are some nuances of differences in the two cases, this attempt will likely be declared unconstitutional also. That will be the SECOND action of his that will be found to be unconstitutional, not just illegal but unconstitutional.

Where are the liberal keepers of our conscience over this? Where’s Jack Smith? Where’s Merrick Garland?
As usual, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durban and the other liberal blowhards, such as those of OPP, about this blatant bribe of the electorate, remain silent. This is corruption of the greatest magnitude. It completely invalidates their authority but they will continue.

Self- righteous phonies!
Another Biden Assault on The Constitution! br br ... (show quote)


Biden is one sad, sick, perverted joke. I would say America deserves better but many Americans voted for the likes of LBJ, Carter, Clinton, Obama and now this demented fool. They got what they wanted and America loses.

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Feb 25, 2024 10:03:03   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Another Biden Assault on The Constitution!


Pres. Joseph Robinette Biden is planning to absolve many billions of dollars of college loan. This is an obvious move to curry favor with college loan debtors in an age group whose support that he is rapidly losing but desperately needs to keep. A previous attempt was ruled unconstitutional by good majority of The Supreme Court.

Although there are some nuances of differences in the two cases, this attempt will likely be declared unconstitutional also. That will be the SECOND action of his that will be found to be unconstitutional, not just illegal but unconstitutional.

Where are the liberal keepers of our conscience over this? Where’s Jack Smith? Where’s Merrick Garland?
As usual, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durban and the other liberal blowhards, such as those of OPP, about this blatant bribe of the electorate, remain silent. This is corruption of the greatest magnitude. It completely invalidates their authority but they will continue.

Self- righteous phonies!
Another Biden Assault on The Constitution! br br ... (show quote)


crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?

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Feb 25, 2024 10:07:39   #
BIRDMAN
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


We need people less educated



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Feb 25, 2024 10:19:56   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


You are quite free with other people's money. If this is important to you then fund a few scholarships> I should not be forced to pay for someone elses choices. Tuition is so expensive because of overpaid professors who fill young minds with mush. Once again educated one, you are proof that the more educated do not necessarily make for a better America. Your false sense of superiority does nothing for the masses.

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Feb 25, 2024 10:48:09   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


According to Supreme Court what biden is doing with Student Loan Debt cancellation IS unconstitutional! He has to through Congress He's not a King... And why should I or my son to pay for someone else's education?? I paid my own loans, so did my sister!! If you can't pay back loans, DON'T borrow it!@

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Feb 25, 2024 10:49:36   #
BIRDMAN
 
proud republican wrote:
According to Supreme Court what biden is doing with Student Loan Debt cancellation IS unconstitutional! He has to through Congress He's not a King... And why should I or my son to pay for someone else's education?? I paid my own loans, so did my sister!! If you can't pay back loans, DON'T borrow it!@


Even Nancy’s Pelosi said it was unconstitutional

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Feb 25, 2024 10:51:53   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
Even Nancy’s Pelosi said it was unconstitutional


YES! I forgot to mention that!..Thank you!

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Feb 25, 2024 11:02:45   #
FallenOak Loc: St George Utah
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


People who are not grifters find ways to finance their own education. The military has something called The Military Tuition Assistance Program which is used by Young American's who do not continue to rely on others to support them.

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Feb 25, 2024 13:58:24   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?



I would agree with you that a more "educated" population is a good thing in general, but I would also say that we are dangerously close, or even over, the line separating "educated" from "indoctrinated". One reason that colleges in the US are so expensive is that by insuring that students have easy access to cash, the colleges and universities can rapidly increase their tuition and fees knowing that the students will be "able" to pay for it. Another question that has crossed my mind is if universities in other countries have large numbers of deans, provosts and VPs for "Equity, Inclusiveness and Diversity", or "Transgender Minority Outreach Programs" or "Women's BIPOC Studies Coordinator"?

Anyone who is thinking of borrowing money has to to think about two questions before hand. First of all is the value expected to be received from using the money worth the costs involved and secondly can the loan and resulting interest be paid back without undo hardship.

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Feb 25, 2024 14:27:25   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?



There are so many flaws and presumptions in this, that I don’t know where to begin.

First off, I could find not one single mention of education in the entireties of The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States nor any of the 27 amendments, including the first ten, The Bill of Rights. Therefore, by the Ninth & Tenth Amendments, the federal government has no right to interfere in any way whatsoever with it. That’s how it’s unconstitutional and it therefore is incumbent upon educational loan supporters to prove that it is.

The program began in earnest in 1965, during the presidency, wouldn’t you know, of Lyndon B. Johnson. We had gotten along for 189 years without such ‘support’ and we were doing just fine. We were producing engineers, physicians, teachers in abundance.

The reason our colleges and universities are so expensive is because of these loan programs. Colleges & universities, especially the professors, have loved them because they can inflate their costs and salaries with impunity, immune from the usual vagaries of the law of supply & demand.

Nice, isn't it?

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Feb 25, 2024 14:33:31   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
SeaLass wrote:
I would agree with you that a more "educated" population is a good thing in general, but I would also say that we are dangerously close, or even over, the line separating "educated" from "indoctrinated". One reason that colleges in the US are so expensive is that by insuring that students have easy access to cash, the colleges and universities can rapidly increase their tuition and fees knowing that the students will be "able" to pay for it. Another question that has crossed my mind is if universities in other countries have large numbers of deans, provosts and VPs for "Equity, Inclusiveness and Diversity", or "Transgender Minority Outreach Programs" or "Women's BIPOC Studies Coordinator"?

Anyone who is thinking of borrowing money has to to think about two questions before hand. First of all is the value expected to be received from using the money worth the costs involved and secondly can the loan and resulting interest be paid back without undo hardship.
I would agree with you that a more "educated&... (show quote)



Very good, SeaLass!

I have to laugh every time that I hear or read someone saying that the first thing we need to solve some conjured up social problem is (drum roll please, maestro) education. I immediately think, suppose we educated a generation of Hitlers? The problem also needs increases in billions of tax dollars.

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Feb 25, 2024 14:38:12   #
Justice101
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
crazy, I am in favor of the help that the government helping out students in college. I just don't see how it is unconstitutional. First, the more educated the population is, the better it is for the country. Secondly, Colleges and universities in the US are among the most expensive in the world. How can students go into professions that don't pay a lot, if they have to pay enormous sums of money to pay back super expensive loans? Where will we get enough teachers, and social workers from?


Who is in charge of the purse strings? It is not Biden or his administration.

https://apnews.com/article/student-loan-forgiveness-supreme-court-653c2e9c085863bdbf81f125f87669fa

Exclusive: Nearly 610,000 public sector workers got student loan forgiveness after Biden loosened the rules
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/08/politics/public-service-loan-forgiveness-biden-waiver/index.html

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