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Feb 14, 2024 12:45:45   #
Cowpoke
 
Be very careful what you ask for. Electing a fully rightist government may not be what you really want. If you look closely at the times when we, (The USA) have had the White House, and both houses of Congress controlled by the same party, it has resulted in the worst government! Most recently when Republicans were in control of all three under Bush II we got the “Patriot Act” the biggest theft of liberty in history up to that point in time. Prime example of the fruits of Democrat control, “Obama Care”.
The work gets done in the middle! Hitler was far right, Stalin far left, but in practice they were the sane guy! Anyone who argued with either one disappeared!

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Feb 14, 2024 13:04:27   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Cowpoke wrote:
Be very careful what you ask for. Electing a fully rightist government may not be what you really want. If you look closely at the times when we, (The USA) have had the White House, and both houses of Congress controlled by the same party, it has resulted in the worst government! Most recently when Republicans were in control of all three under Bush II we got the “Patriot Act” the biggest theft of liberty in history up to that point in time. Prime example of the fruits of Democrat control, “Obama Care”.
The work gets done in the middle! Hitler was far right, Stalin far left, but in practice they were the sane guy! Anyone who argued with either one disappeared!
Be very careful what you ask for. Electing a fully... (show quote)


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Well, in my vision, the Rightists are honest, morally straight, virtuous, with intelligence and common sense, and the Leftists are just the opposite, almost deliberately so! That makes my vision work at the fundamental level. LOL! We already have an almost perfect mix now, and look where that has gotten us! I'd say, more corrupt!

If we can clean house, and clean up the ideologically-driven Left, then a more balanced situation would be possible eventually.

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Feb 14, 2024 13:09:31   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
manning5me wrote:
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Well, in my vision, the Rightists are honest, morally straight, virtuous, with intelligence and common sense, and the Leftists are just the opposite, almost deliberately so! That makes my vision work at the fundamental level. LOL! We already have an almost perfect mix now, and look where that has gotten us! I'd say, more corrupt!

It’s the individual players who are corrupt, and stopping any good ideas!

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Feb 14, 2024 13:34:39   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
It’s the individual players who are corrupt, and stopping any good ideas!

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That says we need to form an honest group, Right and Left, to take down the corrupt wherever found. But such an ad hoc group can be thwarted by a corrupt leadership, so we need to ensure a clean set of leaders. Sure! A clean Leftist leader? Schumer? Pelosi? Schiff, Obama, name one!
We actually have two battles at the same time to win: corruption pure and simple, and the ideology of the Left, from which I believe the corruption is fostered. By tracing the money flow, we just might be able to take down the sources of corruption outside the gov. as well as inside. Ditto for the ideological nuts inside. Then too, we need to investigate the courts as well, for either sin: money or ideology, and that is a very sticky wicket!

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Feb 14, 2024 13:55:55   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
manning5me wrote:
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That says we need to form an honest group, Right and Left, to take down the corrupt wherever found. But such an ad hoc group can be thwarted by a corrupt leadership, so we need to ensure a clean set of leaders. Sure! A clean Leftist leader? Schumer? Pelosi? Schiff, Obama, name one!
We actually have two battles at the same time to win: corruption pure and simple, and the ideology of the Left, from which I believe the corruption is fostered. By tracing the money flow, we just might be able to take down the sources of corruption outside the gov. as well as inside. Ditto for the ideological nuts inside. Then too, we need to investigate the courts as well, for either sin: money or ideology, and that is a very sticky wicket!
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I am all for purity of the mind of our legislators, judges and leaders. This means, for me, I reject for any of these gov posts people that are not fully supportive of the American Way, or have ideological allegiance to socialism/communism/Islam/anarchy/foreign allegiance/corruption/or any form of anti-Americanism.

But with one vote and highly limited information, I cannot do very much but write about it! They look very good before being elected, but after??

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Feb 14, 2024 14:43:59   #
Cowpoke
 
Individually I agree that conservatives have more on the ball than liberals. However, collectively the Republicans in Congress are a bunch of do nothings! That we need to clean house is a given! I would add that the house will never be cleaned by the career mainstream politicians, it will take outsiders to do this job!

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Feb 14, 2024 14:46:13   #
Cowpoke
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
It’s the individual players who are corrupt, and stopping any good ideas!


Agreed!

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Feb 14, 2024 14:58:22   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Cowpoke wrote:
Individually I agree that conservatives have more on the ball than liberals. However, collectively the Republicans in Congress are a bunch of do nothings! That we need to clean house is a given! I would add that the house will never be cleaned by the career mainstream politicians, it will take outsiders to do this job!


If the job is to be done by "outsiders," just who are they, and how is it they can be trusted to head an insurrection in Congress, in the Admin or in the Judiciary? We seem to be talking about revolution here in an oblique manner. Then too, who vets the "Outsiders"? How do we ensure their purity of heart and mind? The public has not done an outstanding job of vetting their representatives, so how can they be trusted to vet the 'Outsiders"? Sounds like Founding Fathers II. Are there any?

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Feb 14, 2024 16:24:33   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
manning5me wrote:
I am all for purity of the mind of our legislators, judges and leaders. This means, for me, I reject for any of these gov posts people that are not fully supportive of the American Way, or have ideological allegiance to socialism/communism/Islam/anarchy/foreign allegiance/corruption/or any form of anti-Americanism.

But with one vote and highly limited information, I cannot do very much but write about it! They look very good before being elected, but after??



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Feb 14, 2024 18:42:32   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
Exactly!

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Feb 15, 2024 18:03:36   #
Radiance3
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Nice Segway but I too am thinking of leaving the do nothing party and joining the watch and wait party. Not that I’ll ever vote democrat 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

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There has never been a 3rd party created that successfully won the election. Do you like this new Kennedy? Ross Peru got 8% votes in 1996.

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Feb 15, 2024 18:21:15   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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There has never been a 3rd party created that successfully won the election. Do you like this new Kennedy? Ross Peru got 8% votes in 1996.


Kennedy is good except for his gun control stance.
I’d vote for him before I voted for Haley.

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Feb 15, 2024 18:33:15   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Kennedy is good except for his gun control stance.
I’d vote for him before I voted for Haley.


He's a Kennedy Democrat, like I was in the 60s.
No more, I'm Mega MAGA Mikeyavelli.

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Feb 15, 2024 18:35:00   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
He's a Kennedy Democrat, like I was in the 60s.
No more, I'm Mega MAGA Mikeyavelli.


Of course it’s Trump!
He’s the only MAGA player.
All the rest are posers.

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Feb 18, 2024 22:43:25   #
Radiance3
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
Of course it’s Trump!
He’s the only MAGA player.
All the rest are posers.


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Stand with Trump! He is a patriot and loves this country. He invested his life, fortune, and honor and reputations to take back America. We will be with him!

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