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Aug 4, 2014 23:51:01   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Yes, I have observed some of trails on the way from P'cola to Tampa.


If it was in the last 2 days, it could be my rig. It may have decided to stop at the beach on it's way to Georgia.

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Aug 4, 2014 23:51:21   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It may have. It was made in Georgia, so it may be going home. I tried following it's trail, but apparently I'm not the only one who came up with such a brilliant idea. There are 100's of mown trails all over the place. At least some of them were made by drunken highway dept. employees, who fell asleep at their tractors.


There is a good joke in this question.
Was the bag attached?

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Aug 4, 2014 23:52:58   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
lpnmajor wrote:
If it was in the last 2 days, it could be my rig. It may have decided to stop at the beach on it's way to Georgia.


No, my travel was in November last.

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Aug 4, 2014 23:54:58   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
archie bunker wrote:
There is a good joke in this question.
Was the bag attached?


I would wager she stayed home.

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Aug 4, 2014 23:57:15   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
I would wager she stayed home.


:lol: :lol: :wink: :lol: :mrgreen:

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Aug 5, 2014 00:04:29   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
archie bunker wrote:
There is a good joke in this question.
Was the bag attached?


No, she couldn't have cared less.

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Aug 5, 2014 00:12:30   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
No, she couldn't have cared less.


Goin to bed guys! Good nite!!

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Aug 5, 2014 05:44:20   #
Buckshot
 
If you can put all six in the "X" ring @20 feet in 6 or 7 seconds, you have nothing to worry about.. love the 45...

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Aug 5, 2014 05:55:54   #
Snoopy
 
AuntiE wrote:
“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not”. Thomas Jefferson

FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
4. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
5. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
6. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
7. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
8. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
9. The United States Constitution (c)1791. All Rights Reserved.
10. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
11. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
12. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
13. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians.
14. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
15. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
16. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
17. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
18. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.
19. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
20. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
21. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.
22. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more.
23. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
24. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow ... (show quote)


AuntiE

Could have not said the truth any better!

Snoopy

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Aug 5, 2014 06:01:05   #
Snoopy
 
Loki wrote:
You need to check your ballistics, or purchase a chronograph. Factory ballistics are obtained by firing from a 10" closed barrel under ideal conditions, with absolutely no gas leakage. A 230 grain round will chrono out at around 850-900 fps under these conditions. I use hot loaded 220 grain HPs, which chrono at slightly over 1000 fps (5 shot average ). Normally, this muzzle velocity is obtained by using 185 grain bullets. A 230 that chronos at higher mv with this weight of bullet out of a 4.5 " barrel such as my Glock produces unacceptable pressures, at least for more than occasional use.
By contrast, a .44 magnum, with a 240 grain bullet, fired from a 4.5" barrel, produces around 1175 fps MV, with extremely heavy recoil and muzzle flash.
A 220 grain bullet that produces 1000 fps out of a 4.5" barrel with acceptable recoil is quite hot. I take it you have never been in a firefight with a handgun. Fast recovery for subsequent shots after the first one are vital. Try a realistic drill. Exercise until you are winded. This will sort of simulate an adrenaline rush. Immediately draw and fire as fast as you can at a torso sized target at a realistic range, like 10-15 paces. Remember, the target is shooting back. You are scared and shaky. You may not hit that first shot.
I mean no disrespect, but reality and theory don't always agree. Your opponent may not be very cooperative. He may not stand still and not shoot back. Training should be based on speed, and getting at least 2 or 3 rounds into the vital area as quickly as possible under various conditions. You are not going to shoot a 2" group at 25 meters in real life. Bear in mind, you will probably not be shooting from a classic Weaver stance, either.
You need to check your ballistics, or purchase a c... (show quote)


Loki

Thanks for the info!

Practice is always the key to success.

Never tried shooting when winded - good thought!

I am also a .45 fan.

Snoopy

Snoopy

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Aug 5, 2014 08:59:36   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Snoopy wrote:
Loki

Thanks for the info!

Practice is always the key to success.

Never tried shooting when winded - good thought!

I am also a .45 fan.

Snoopy

Snoopy


Well, the 45 was replaced by the 33 1/3. Now all vinyl records have been replaced by CD's. I can get a 1 inch pattern, at 25 yards - with CD's.

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Aug 5, 2014 09:48:02   #
JetJock Loc: Texas
 
Reminds me AuntiE, I need go get to the range today.

AuntiE wrote:
“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not”. Thomas Jefferson

FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE

1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
4. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?
5. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
6. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
7. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
8. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
9. The United States Constitution (c)1791. All Rights Reserved.
10. What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?
11. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
12. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
13. Guns only have two enemies; rust and politicians.
14. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
15. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
16. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
17. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
18. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.
19. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
20. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
21. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.
22. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more.
23. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
24. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
“Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow ... (show quote)


:) :) :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Aug 5, 2014 10:00:13   #
Workinman Loc: Bayou Pigeon
 
ghostcotcha wrote:
Well, well, well. Someone who knows something about shooting. "Classic Weaver" is the stance of Professionals. Hand or long gun...

One attaboy. and watch out for my 12 ga at 25 yds. That Ithaca will mow you into multiple parts.


You should see the hole my Ithaca single 12 with the bore barrel and Winchester Supreme's make at that yardage! :shock: :shock:

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Aug 5, 2014 11:01:01   #
rocketride
 
The Highway Dept.-- those fine folks who raised paving over roadkills to an art form. (Merely painting lines over them is, like, so 1990's.)

lpnmajor wrote:
It may have. It was made in Georgia, so it may be going home. I tried following it's trail, but apparently I'm not the only one who came up with such a brilliant idea. There are 100's of mown trails all over the place. At least some of them were made by drunken highway dept. employees, who fell asleep at their tractors.

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Aug 5, 2014 11:03:12   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
rocketride wrote:
The Highway Dept.-- those fine folks who raised paving over roadkills to an art form. (Painting lines over them is so 1990's.)


We need to send THOSE crews to the southern border. Paving over illegals might be our only option.

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