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Jan 16, 2024 14:20:56   #
F.D.R.
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024
KLAUS MARRE 01/14/24
It is entirely fair that President Joe Biden’s age is a campaign issue. But we also need to talk about Donald Trump’s various mental disorders.

We periodically point out that Donald Trump is seriously mentally ill. From being a pathological liar to a textbook example of malignant narcissism, the former president displays a cluster of disorders that, in other circumstances, might not get him institutionalized, but would definitely justify some form of treatment.

So why aren’t we talking about that?

The GOP seems intent on making President Joe Biden’s age an issue in the upcoming election (although Trump is only four years younger), and that is perfectly appropriate in light of the fact that the incumbent would be 86 at the end of a second term.

It is important that experts — rather than Fox News pundits, who interpret every one of Biden’s verbal slips as a sign of advanced dementia — weigh in on this topic. After all, being president is a stressful and highly demanding job, so is it possible for an octogenarian to do it well? That is a valid question, and it seems as though voters deserve an answer.

But they should also know whether one of the candidates is very likely completely nuts.

Yet, while Biden’s age is fair game, not just in the right-wing mediaverse but also among mainstream news outlets, Trump’s mental health, or lack thereof, is largely a taboo topic, even though it is a much bigger problem.

Most reporters don’t have a problem with mentioning Biden’s age (and it bears repeating that it’s a perfectly legitimate concern as long as their conclusions are supported by facts). Yet the same journalists fail to spell it out for their audiences when Trump does or says something that is completely insane apart from labeling some of his most outrageous speeches “rants” or saying the former president is “unhinged.” But those are buzzwords and not a serious attempt to spell out that Trump is, to put it in layman’s terms, crazy.

A big part of the reason why the former president’s mental health is not more of a topic of conversation is the so-called Goldwater Rule of the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics. It states that “it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion [about someone’s mental health] unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

That might seem fair in most circumstances, but it is arguably even less ethical to allow a seriously mentally ill person to become president — in particular if that mental illness could negatively impact their performance, which it arguably did during Trump’s first term.

After all, there are exceptions to the attorney-client privilege; e.g., a lawyer is allowed to divulge relevant information if doing so prevents death or serious injury.

Another part of the problem is that, as a society, we do not talk much about mental health, and these disorders are not as easy to diagnose as physical ailments.

If an X-ray reveals a fracture, the bone is broken; a biopsy showing malignant cells is clear evidence of cancer. In these cases, no doctors are going to disagree with another doctor’s diagnosis.

It’s somewhat different with mental illness, especially in mild or mainly benign cases which might be open to some interpretation or differences of opinion.

For example, it takes a special kind of person — specifically, someone with a very high opinion of him or herself — to decide that he or she wants to be president of the United States. Therefore, every commander in chief probably has a narcissistic streak.

However, there is nothing mild or benign about Trump’s narcissism.

Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.

Keep in mind that displaying any number of these can make you a narcissist, but we challenge anybody to look at this list of 21 symptoms and find even a handful that don’t apply to Trump.

It’s an impossible task for any fair-minded person.

That’s precisely the reason why the former president’s mental health must be part of the national conversation. Voters need to know what someone suffering from this disorder (and others) is capable of in a position of power, just as they need to know whether an 82-year-old (or a 78-year-old, for that matter), can handle the rigors of the presidency for four years.

And it’s not just his malignant narcissism and compulsive lying. Look up the APA’s symptoms for “sociopathy,” and it is difficult not to think of Trump.

But who is actually looking up the definitions of “malignant narcissism” or “sociopathy?” Clearly not enough people.

And this is where it would help if mental health professionals spoke out. They could point out that Trump is a poster child for several serious disorders. And then, responsible journalists could cite these opinions when they write about the former president’s latest rant or spate of lies.

In fact, most stories about him should include that information, e.g.,

“Former President Donald Trump, who experts say is mentally ill,…”

‘“As per usual, Trump, a diagnosed compulsive liar, did not stick to the truth in his remarks…”

“As a result of his malignant narcissism and sociopathy, Trump did tremendous damage during his first term, and experts say he has only gotten worse since then.”

Granted, it would have been better to have had these conversations eight years ago. Take his narcissism, for example. People like Trump need adulation and attention like ordinary people need oxygen.

Now, you probably could not have headed off the adulation from his most fervent supporters, but you could have deprived the former president of much of the attention he craves so much.

Instead, media executives with an eye on the bottom line showered him with billions of dollars of free airtime, which constituted one of the worst cases of journalistic malpractice in history.

Now, we can’t do anything about what happened eight years ago, but it is high time for experts to weigh in on Trump’s mental state and how it would jeopardize the United States should he be elected again.

Mental Illness.
Needs your Vote !!!!!!!!
Trumpenstein has a plan for you .

** Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.*****

Factual documented information.
From the Mayo Clinic .
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Con... (show quote)


Apparently the Mayo referred to is either Kraft or Hellman's and has nothing to do with Trump. Seems to me that it's the articles author who is the narcissist.

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Jan 16, 2024 14:33:41   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Jwilly wrote:
Benedict Donald has always been mentally challenged and mentally ill, why do you think Putin chose him to lead the moron movement?


I am delighted that Nimrods like you hate Trump with the very essence of your entire being. That hate consumes you and when Mr. Trump ascends the 2nd time to the Presidency it will unconditionally blow your mind as you emit those primordial screams. We want to capture the moments when all those Leftists minds are blown and enter them into the Guinness World Book of Records as the smallest explosions ever recorded, smaller than a flea fart.

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Jan 16, 2024 15:05:03   #
Daddyfixit
 
Milosia2 wrote:
This isn’t a different narrative.
The Mayo Clinic is a highly respected Medical Clinic.
It is available to you also .
If you should have an unexplained illness the Mayo Clinic , could help .
They are not a frivolous institution .
And neither do they just blurt out nonsense to hurt trump .
As explained , trump is a Textbook Case of
Malignant Narcissism and Sociopathy .
A textbook case .
Not because he is trump .
But because his case aligns perfectly with what is called
A-Text Book Case of Malignant Narcissism
And Sociopathy .
Try harder to understand that , rose.
This isn’t a different narrative. br The Mayo Clin... (show quote)


Hahahahahaha! You really should seek mental help...

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Jan 16, 2024 15:05:38   #
SinnieK
 
David L wrote:
After miles and miles of slanderous hate filled smears against Trump, I STILL have no one show me a lie that he told. Hint- a difference of opinion is not a lie. Also, parodys and satire are not lies, but I would not expect you to know that, since you know so very little already.


They, the liberals, should look in the mirror to see whatever they are accusing Trump of that is what they all are doing; hypocrites !!!

You don't argue with idiots it would make you look like idiot too; just ignore them! They don't deserve any attention and don't waste your time.

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Jan 16, 2024 15:10:49   #
Daddyfixit
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Most are not , and were not.
What are you suffering from ?
Racism ??????


So you bring the typical Leftist Trump hating "racist" card once again. Not surprising since you have nothing intelligent to say. Like previously stated, your opinion because of your TDS is completely valueless...

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Jan 16, 2024 15:23:02   #
Daddyfixit
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump lost more jobs in his term than any previous president .
Fact !

Is this called making America great again ?


Per 100k citizens, your are factually incorrect. You've forgotten the "previous" pandemic and the "great depression". Obama signed off on Fauci and Friends giving the virus to China with millions of American tax dollars. So Obama and Fauci and friends with the help of China caused the Plandemic, which caused millions of jobs to be lost, not Trump...lie all you want, we know you're a much bigger liar than Trump could ever be...

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Jan 16, 2024 15:36:02   #
tomhoff24
 
America 1 wrote:
The Trump years provide a better life for the average citizen.


It did not for my wife and I.

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Jan 16, 2024 15:37:55   #
tomhoff24
 
Justice101 wrote:
Biden hired all of Obama's leftovers. That doesn't make them competent. Look what's going on domestically and overseas which helped earn Biden a 33% approval rating in the recent ABC News/IPSOS poll.

https://ijr.com/bidens-approval-rating-15-year-low-president-abc-poll/


My taxes went up 13% during trump’s administration! What do you say to that?!

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Jan 16, 2024 15:39:10   #
tomhoff24
 
Strycker wrote:
It does take one person sitting at the helm delegating authority while following the country's principles to keep things running smoothly. The difference between a dictator and the President is adherence to the founding documents. Our founding documents are the tenets, limitations and guide books and the President is the CEO. Politicians in general and Progressives/Democrats in particular want to constantly redefine the documents rather then adhere to them.


Where did you get that?

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Jan 16, 2024 15:41:09   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
tomhoff24 wrote:
My taxes went up 13% during trump’s administration! What do you say to that?!


Maybe get a better accountant?

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Jan 16, 2024 15:45:44   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
tomhoff24 wrote:
My taxes went up 13% during trump’s administration! What do you say to that?!


Too bad.

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Jan 16, 2024 15:45:49   #
Daddyfixit
 
tomhoff24 wrote:
My taxes went up 13% during trump’s administration! What do you say to that?!



If your taxes went up 13% then your income was well above the average American family. For the majority of Americans, it went down enough to help us feed our families. Apparently you didn't suffer for anything c other than your greed...just sayin...

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Jan 16, 2024 15:48:25   #
MARSwantsWar
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its amusing to see how you people suck up anything and everything because you hate trump. They keep trying to push different narratives as his popularity grows and some of you latch on to all of them

I don’t want him elected but wow are some of you easy marks for whatever comes up.


While I agree with the chacterization, the topic would need to be couched in different prose or it will turn off the MAGA lot. Most lay people have a bare rudimentary grasp of psychological pathology. What they do more or less know, is gleaned from the internet or Dr. Phil.
At least some members of his last Cabinet had the "stones" to stand up to his more more egregious impulses. He likely learned from prior experience that he requires sycophants to surround him so he can experience his required continual ego boosting-- regardless of how inappropriate his impulses & ideas. Moreover, he is certainly not a team player, which is something crucial in the current world situation. The Country may well rue the day the GOP supported someone as unstable as Trump, rather than a true & tested candidate as Gov. DeSantis.

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Jan 16, 2024 16:13:10   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
tomhoff24 wrote:
Where did you get that?


Which part?

Democrats openly proclaim the constitution as fluid and easily redefined to suit which ever way the wind is blowing at the time. Other even proclaim it as outdated and that is should rewritten or totally disposed of. The concept of "fluid" totally undermines the brilliance and intentions of the founders.

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Jan 16, 2024 16:39:29   #
Marbab59
 
I’m sorry what? Please explain that comment.

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