One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024
Page 1 of 19 next> last>>
Jan 15, 2024 06:58:10   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024
KLAUS MARRE 01/14/24
It is entirely fair that President Joe Biden’s age is a campaign issue. But we also need to talk about Donald Trump’s various mental disorders.

We periodically point out that Donald Trump is seriously mentally ill. From being a pathological liar to a textbook example of malignant narcissism, the former president displays a cluster of disorders that, in other circumstances, might not get him institutionalized, but would definitely justify some form of treatment.

So why aren’t we talking about that?

The GOP seems intent on making President Joe Biden’s age an issue in the upcoming election (although Trump is only four years younger), and that is perfectly appropriate in light of the fact that the incumbent would be 86 at the end of a second term.

It is important that experts — rather than Fox News pundits, who interpret every one of Biden’s verbal slips as a sign of advanced dementia — weigh in on this topic. After all, being president is a stressful and highly demanding job, so is it possible for an octogenarian to do it well? That is a valid question, and it seems as though voters deserve an answer.

But they should also know whether one of the candidates is very likely completely nuts.

Yet, while Biden’s age is fair game, not just in the right-wing mediaverse but also among mainstream news outlets, Trump’s mental health, or lack thereof, is largely a taboo topic, even though it is a much bigger problem.

Most reporters don’t have a problem with mentioning Biden’s age (and it bears repeating that it’s a perfectly legitimate concern as long as their conclusions are supported by facts). Yet the same journalists fail to spell it out for their audiences when Trump does or says something that is completely insane apart from labeling some of his most outrageous speeches “rants” or saying the former president is “unhinged.” But those are buzzwords and not a serious attempt to spell out that Trump is, to put it in layman’s terms, crazy.

A big part of the reason why the former president’s mental health is not more of a topic of conversation is the so-called Goldwater Rule of the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics. It states that “it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion [about someone’s mental health] unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

That might seem fair in most circumstances, but it is arguably even less ethical to allow a seriously mentally ill person to become president — in particular if that mental illness could negatively impact their performance, which it arguably did during Trump’s first term.

After all, there are exceptions to the attorney-client privilege; e.g., a lawyer is allowed to divulge relevant information if doing so prevents death or serious injury.

Another part of the problem is that, as a society, we do not talk much about mental health, and these disorders are not as easy to diagnose as physical ailments.

If an X-ray reveals a fracture, the bone is broken; a biopsy showing malignant cells is clear evidence of cancer. In these cases, no doctors are going to disagree with another doctor’s diagnosis.

It’s somewhat different with mental illness, especially in mild or mainly benign cases which might be open to some interpretation or differences of opinion.

For example, it takes a special kind of person — specifically, someone with a very high opinion of him or herself — to decide that he or she wants to be president of the United States. Therefore, every commander in chief probably has a narcissistic streak.

However, there is nothing mild or benign about Trump’s narcissism.

Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.

Keep in mind that displaying any number of these can make you a narcissist, but we challenge anybody to look at this list of 21 symptoms and find even a handful that don’t apply to Trump.

It’s an impossible task for any fair-minded person.

That’s precisely the reason why the former president’s mental health must be part of the national conversation. Voters need to know what someone suffering from this disorder (and others) is capable of in a position of power, just as they need to know whether an 82-year-old (or a 78-year-old, for that matter), can handle the rigors of the presidency for four years.

And it’s not just his malignant narcissism and compulsive lying. Look up the APA’s symptoms for “sociopathy,” and it is difficult not to think of Trump.

But who is actually looking up the definitions of “malignant narcissism” or “sociopathy?” Clearly not enough people.

And this is where it would help if mental health professionals spoke out. They could point out that Trump is a poster child for several serious disorders. And then, responsible journalists could cite these opinions when they write about the former president’s latest rant or spate of lies.

In fact, most stories about him should include that information, e.g.,

“Former President Donald Trump, who experts say is mentally ill,…”

‘“As per usual, Trump, a diagnosed compulsive liar, did not stick to the truth in his remarks…”

“As a result of his malignant narcissism and sociopathy, Trump did tremendous damage during his first term, and experts say he has only gotten worse since then.”

Granted, it would have been better to have had these conversations eight years ago. Take his narcissism, for example. People like Trump need adulation and attention like ordinary people need oxygen.

Now, you probably could not have headed off the adulation from his most fervent supporters, but you could have deprived the former president of much of the attention he craves so much.

Instead, media executives with an eye on the bottom line showered him with billions of dollars of free airtime, which constituted one of the worst cases of journalistic malpractice in history.

Now, we can’t do anything about what happened eight years ago, but it is high time for experts to weigh in on Trump’s mental state and how it would jeopardize the United States should he be elected again.

Mental Illness.
Needs your Vote !!!!!!!!
Trumpenstein has a plan for you .

** Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.*****

Factual documented information.
From the Mayo Clinic .

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 07:34:18   #
Rose42
 
Its amusing to see how you people suck up anything and everything because you hate trump. They keep trying to push different narratives as his popularity grows and some of you latch on to all of them

I don’t want him elected but wow are some of you easy marks for whatever comes up.

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 07:39:39   #
Liberty Tree
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its amusing to see how you people suck up anything and everything because you hate trump. They keep trying to push different narratives as his popularity grows and some of you latch on to all of them

I don’t want him elected but wow are some of you easy marks for whatever comes up.


They have their own brand of mental illness.

Reply
 
 
Jan 15, 2024 07:52:35   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its amusing to see how you people suck up anything and everything because you hate trump. They keep trying to push different narratives as his popularity grows and some of you latch on to all of them

I don’t want him elected but wow are some of you easy marks for whatever comes up.


This isn’t a different narrative.
The Mayo Clinic is a highly respected Medical Clinic.
It is available to you also .
If you should have an unexplained illness the Mayo Clinic , could help .
They are not a frivolous institution .
And neither do they just blurt out nonsense to hurt trump .
As explained , trump is a Textbook Case of
Malignant Narcissism and Sociopathy .
A textbook case .
Not because he is trump .
But because his case aligns perfectly with what is called
A-Text Book Case of Malignant Narcissism
And Sociopathy .
Try harder to understand that , rose.

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 07:54:08   #
Liberty Tree
 
Milosia2 wrote:
This isn’t a different narrative.
The Mayo Clinic is a highly respected Medical Clinic.
It is available to you also .
If you should have an unexplained illness the Mayo Clinic , could help .
They are not a frivolous institution .
And neither do they just blurt out nonsense to hurt trump .
As explained , trump is a Textbook Case of
Malignant Narcissism and Sociopathy .
A textbook case .
Not because he is trump .
But because his case aligns perfectly with what is called
A-Text Book Case of Malignant Narcissism
And Sociopathy .
Try harder to understand that , rose.
This isn’t a different narrative. br The Mayo Clin... (show quote)


Your opinion is not fact

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 08:12:23   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024
KLAUS MARRE 01/14/24
It is entirely fair that President Joe Biden’s age is a campaign issue. But we also need to talk about Donald Trump’s various mental disorders.

We periodically point out that Donald Trump is seriously mentally ill. From being a pathological liar to a textbook example of malignant narcissism, the former president displays a cluster of disorders that, in other circumstances, might not get him institutionalized, but would definitely justify some form of treatment.

So why aren’t we talking about that?

The GOP seems intent on making President Joe Biden’s age an issue in the upcoming election (although Trump is only four years younger), and that is perfectly appropriate in light of the fact that the incumbent would be 86 at the end of a second term.

It is important that experts — rather than Fox News pundits, who interpret every one of Biden’s verbal slips as a sign of advanced dementia — weigh in on this topic. After all, being president is a stressful and highly demanding job, so is it possible for an octogenarian to do it well? That is a valid question, and it seems as though voters deserve an answer.

But they should also know whether one of the candidates is very likely completely nuts.

Yet, while Biden’s age is fair game, not just in the right-wing mediaverse but also among mainstream news outlets, Trump’s mental health, or lack thereof, is largely a taboo topic, even though it is a much bigger problem.

Most reporters don’t have a problem with mentioning Biden’s age (and it bears repeating that it’s a perfectly legitimate concern as long as their conclusions are supported by facts). Yet the same journalists fail to spell it out for their audiences when Trump does or says something that is completely insane apart from labeling some of his most outrageous speeches “rants” or saying the former president is “unhinged.” But those are buzzwords and not a serious attempt to spell out that Trump is, to put it in layman’s terms, crazy.

A big part of the reason why the former president’s mental health is not more of a topic of conversation is the so-called Goldwater Rule of the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics. It states that “it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion [about someone’s mental health] unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

That might seem fair in most circumstances, but it is arguably even less ethical to allow a seriously mentally ill person to become president — in particular if that mental illness could negatively impact their performance, which it arguably did during Trump’s first term.

After all, there are exceptions to the attorney-client privilege; e.g., a lawyer is allowed to divulge relevant information if doing so prevents death or serious injury.

Another part of the problem is that, as a society, we do not talk much about mental health, and these disorders are not as easy to diagnose as physical ailments.

If an X-ray reveals a fracture, the bone is broken; a biopsy showing malignant cells is clear evidence of cancer. In these cases, no doctors are going to disagree with another doctor’s diagnosis.

It’s somewhat different with mental illness, especially in mild or mainly benign cases which might be open to some interpretation or differences of opinion.

For example, it takes a special kind of person — specifically, someone with a very high opinion of him or herself — to decide that he or she wants to be president of the United States. Therefore, every commander in chief probably has a narcissistic streak.

However, there is nothing mild or benign about Trump’s narcissism.

Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.

Keep in mind that displaying any number of these can make you a narcissist, but we challenge anybody to look at this list of 21 symptoms and find even a handful that don’t apply to Trump.

It’s an impossible task for any fair-minded person.

That’s precisely the reason why the former president’s mental health must be part of the national conversation. Voters need to know what someone suffering from this disorder (and others) is capable of in a position of power, just as they need to know whether an 82-year-old (or a 78-year-old, for that matter), can handle the rigors of the presidency for four years.

And it’s not just his malignant narcissism and compulsive lying. Look up the APA’s symptoms for “sociopathy,” and it is difficult not to think of Trump.

But who is actually looking up the definitions of “malignant narcissism” or “sociopathy?” Clearly not enough people.

And this is where it would help if mental health professionals spoke out. They could point out that Trump is a poster child for several serious disorders. And then, responsible journalists could cite these opinions when they write about the former president’s latest rant or spate of lies.

In fact, most stories about him should include that information, e.g.,

“Former President Donald Trump, who experts say is mentally ill,…”

‘“As per usual, Trump, a diagnosed compulsive liar, did not stick to the truth in his remarks…”

“As a result of his malignant narcissism and sociopathy, Trump did tremendous damage during his first term, and experts say he has only gotten worse since then.”

Granted, it would have been better to have had these conversations eight years ago. Take his narcissism, for example. People like Trump need adulation and attention like ordinary people need oxygen.

Now, you probably could not have headed off the adulation from his most fervent supporters, but you could have deprived the former president of much of the attention he craves so much.

Instead, media executives with an eye on the bottom line showered him with billions of dollars of free airtime, which constituted one of the worst cases of journalistic malpractice in history.

Now, we can’t do anything about what happened eight years ago, but it is high time for experts to weigh in on Trump’s mental state and how it would jeopardize the United States should he be elected again.

Mental Illness.
Needs your Vote !!!!!!!!
Trumpenstein has a plan for you .

** Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.*****

Factual documented information.
From the Mayo Clinic .
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Con... (show quote)


Narcissism? Show me a politician who is NOT suffering from it. The worst case I have seen in my lifetime is Barrack Hussein Obama! One thing our first mulatto, muslim president does not suffer from is humility.



Reply
Jan 15, 2024 09:05:59   #
David L Loc: Central Wisconsin
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Conversation in 2024
KLAUS MARRE 01/14/24
It is entirely fair that President Joe Biden’s age is a campaign issue. But we also need to talk about Donald Trump’s various mental disorders.

We periodically point out that Donald Trump is seriously mentally ill. From being a pathological liar to a textbook example of malignant narcissism, the former president displays a cluster of disorders that, in other circumstances, might not get him institutionalized, but would definitely justify some form of treatment.

So why aren’t we talking about that?

The GOP seems intent on making President Joe Biden’s age an issue in the upcoming election (although Trump is only four years younger), and that is perfectly appropriate in light of the fact that the incumbent would be 86 at the end of a second term.

It is important that experts — rather than Fox News pundits, who interpret every one of Biden’s verbal slips as a sign of advanced dementia — weigh in on this topic. After all, being president is a stressful and highly demanding job, so is it possible for an octogenarian to do it well? That is a valid question, and it seems as though voters deserve an answer.

But they should also know whether one of the candidates is very likely completely nuts.

Yet, while Biden’s age is fair game, not just in the right-wing mediaverse but also among mainstream news outlets, Trump’s mental health, or lack thereof, is largely a taboo topic, even though it is a much bigger problem.

Most reporters don’t have a problem with mentioning Biden’s age (and it bears repeating that it’s a perfectly legitimate concern as long as their conclusions are supported by facts). Yet the same journalists fail to spell it out for their audiences when Trump does or says something that is completely insane apart from labeling some of his most outrageous speeches “rants” or saying the former president is “unhinged.” But those are buzzwords and not a serious attempt to spell out that Trump is, to put it in layman’s terms, crazy.

A big part of the reason why the former president’s mental health is not more of a topic of conversation is the so-called Goldwater Rule of the American Psychiatric Association’s (APA) Principles of Medical Ethics. It states that “it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion [about someone’s mental health] unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

That might seem fair in most circumstances, but it is arguably even less ethical to allow a seriously mentally ill person to become president — in particular if that mental illness could negatively impact their performance, which it arguably did during Trump’s first term.

After all, there are exceptions to the attorney-client privilege; e.g., a lawyer is allowed to divulge relevant information if doing so prevents death or serious injury.

Another part of the problem is that, as a society, we do not talk much about mental health, and these disorders are not as easy to diagnose as physical ailments.

If an X-ray reveals a fracture, the bone is broken; a biopsy showing malignant cells is clear evidence of cancer. In these cases, no doctors are going to disagree with another doctor’s diagnosis.

It’s somewhat different with mental illness, especially in mild or mainly benign cases which might be open to some interpretation or differences of opinion.

For example, it takes a special kind of person — specifically, someone with a very high opinion of him or herself — to decide that he or she wants to be president of the United States. Therefore, every commander in chief probably has a narcissistic streak.

However, there is nothing mild or benign about Trump’s narcissism.

Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.

Keep in mind that displaying any number of these can make you a narcissist, but we challenge anybody to look at this list of 21 symptoms and find even a handful that don’t apply to Trump.

It’s an impossible task for any fair-minded person.

That’s precisely the reason why the former president’s mental health must be part of the national conversation. Voters need to know what someone suffering from this disorder (and others) is capable of in a position of power, just as they need to know whether an 82-year-old (or a 78-year-old, for that matter), can handle the rigors of the presidency for four years.

And it’s not just his malignant narcissism and compulsive lying. Look up the APA’s symptoms for “sociopathy,” and it is difficult not to think of Trump.

But who is actually looking up the definitions of “malignant narcissism” or “sociopathy?” Clearly not enough people.

And this is where it would help if mental health professionals spoke out. They could point out that Trump is a poster child for several serious disorders. And then, responsible journalists could cite these opinions when they write about the former president’s latest rant or spate of lies.

In fact, most stories about him should include that information, e.g.,

“Former President Donald Trump, who experts say is mentally ill,…”

‘“As per usual, Trump, a diagnosed compulsive liar, did not stick to the truth in his remarks…”

“As a result of his malignant narcissism and sociopathy, Trump did tremendous damage during his first term, and experts say he has only gotten worse since then.”

Granted, it would have been better to have had these conversations eight years ago. Take his narcissism, for example. People like Trump need adulation and attention like ordinary people need oxygen.

Now, you probably could not have headed off the adulation from his most fervent supporters, but you could have deprived the former president of much of the attention he craves so much.

Instead, media executives with an eye on the bottom line showered him with billions of dollars of free airtime, which constituted one of the worst cases of journalistic malpractice in history.

Now, we can’t do anything about what happened eight years ago, but it is high time for experts to weigh in on Trump’s mental state and how it would jeopardize the United States should he be elected again.

Mental Illness.
Needs your Vote !!!!!!!!
Trumpenstein has a plan for you .

** Trump, a Textbook Case. Look Him Up!
The Mayo Clinic website lists 13 symptoms for narcissistic personality disorder plus another eight that describe how narcissists react to criticism.*****

Factual documented information.
From the Mayo Clinic .
Trump’s Mental Illness Needs to Be Part of the Con... (show quote)


After miles and miles of slanderous hate filled smears against Trump, I STILL have no one show me a lie that he told. Hint- a difference of opinion is not a lie. Also, parodys and satire are not lies, but I would not expect you to know that, since you know so very little already.

Reply
 
 
Jan 15, 2024 09:08:34   #
David L Loc: Central Wisconsin
 
Milosia2 wrote:
This isn’t a different narrative.
The Mayo Clinic is a highly respected Medical Clinic.
It is available to you also .
If you should have an unexplained illness the Mayo Clinic , could help .
They are not a frivolous institution .
And neither do they just blurt out nonsense to hurt trump .
As explained , trump is a Textbook Case of
Malignant Narcissism and Sociopathy .
A textbook case .
Not because he is trump .
But because his case aligns perfectly with what is called
A-Text Book Case of Malignant Narcissism
And Sociopathy .
Try harder to understand that , rose.
This isn’t a different narrative. br The Mayo Clin... (show quote)


Did Mayo diagnose trump? No. They described a problem and YOU and your deranged anti Trumpers did the diagnosis. Maybe you should be sued for practicing medicine without a license.

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 10:09:56   #
Radar OReilly
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its amusing to see how you people suck up anything and everything because you hate trump. They keep trying to push different narratives as his popularity grows and some of you latch on to all of them

I don’t want him elected but wow are some of you easy marks for whatever comes up.


Well Stated Ms Rose...Iwish that more from my side of the aisle would decrease the bashing. The talk needs to be what is his platform. Yes his age and some of his outbursts are not favorable. So we should change track to asking the GOP ( Mr Trump supporters) what is the platform?

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 10:22:41   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
Radar OReilly wrote:
Well Stated Ms Rose...Iwish that more from my side of the aisle would decrease the bashing. The talk needs to be what is his platform. Yes his age and some of his outbursts are not favorable. So we should change track to asking the GOP ( Mr Trump supporters) what is the platform?


MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 10:33:11   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
Radar OReilly wrote:
Well Stated Ms Rose...Iwish that more from my side of the aisle would decrease the bashing. The talk needs to be what is his platform. Yes his age and some of his outbursts are not favorable. So we should change track to asking the GOP ( Mr Trump supporters) what is the platform?


His platform is as plain as the nose on your face. Well, this is the internet so you have no face but you know what I mean.

Reply
 
 
Jan 15, 2024 10:53:23   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Jim0001 wrote:
Narcissism? Show me a politician who is NOT suffering from it. The worst case I have seen in my lifetime is Barrack Hussein Obama! One thing our first mulatto, muslim president does not suffer from is humility.


Most are not , and were not.
What are you suffering from ?
Racism ??????

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 10:58:59   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Your opinion is not fact


Please explain where my opinion is an issue ?
Please explain what does textbook definition of
Malignant Narcissism and Psychopathy means.
Textbook Definition.
Means , if you look up malignant narcissism and psychopathy
There will be a picture of Donald Jemima Trump !

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 11:04:41   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
David L wrote:
Did Mayo diagnose trump? No. They described a problem and YOU and your deranged anti Trumpers did the diagnosis. Maybe you should be sued for practicing medicine without a license.


Textbook Definition .
Even you could diagnose trump .
By applying a bit of linear thinking here , you could transpose a course that trump might be able to take without killing everything he touches !!!!!
I’m locked in at Leavenworth.

Reply
Jan 15, 2024 11:06:32   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
XXX wrote:
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!


Trump lost more jobs in his term than any previous president .
Fact !

Is this called making America great again ?

Reply
Page 1 of 19 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.