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Feb 14, 2023 00:05:12   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Salvatore wrote:
Bill Maher said of those young people who said let's try Socialism, said "why don't we shit in the kitchen and eat in the bathroom, we haven't tried that yet?" There's a lot of things we haven't tried because cooler heads prevail! But joe biden and his administration has gone the farthest into Socialism that any administration before it! Just one question to the biden administration? Once you kill the middleclass completely where is the money going to come from? There may not be a middleclass by 2024!
Bill Maher said of those young people who said let... (show quote)

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Th answer here could be: the Biden government has to, and dearly wants to, take over industry and services (real socialism in quick transition steps), then use the profits from them to dole out jobs and a barely living wage to the masses, and cushy wages to the elites, senior officials and the military, all under their control. Back to the Soviet Union style. Then they do their best to shape people into the New Socialist Man image, or else imprison them, ban them to Alaska, let them starve, or simply kill many of them outright! Rule by decree from the top.

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Feb 14, 2023 08:04:03   #
Ricktloml
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Socialism Is Not the ideology of the Nazis.
It is more
Authoritarianism and Nationalism.
You are confusing yourself with Hitlers origins and vehicles he used to take over the Weimar Republic.




Nazi...The National SOCIALIST German Workers Party

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Feb 14, 2023 08:10:32   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Alber wrote:
The United States House of Representatives approved on February 2, 2023 a bill presented by the Florida congresswoman, María Elvira Salazar, which denounces socialism as an ideology, to prevent it from being imposed as a practice in United States territory.
The resolution lists a series of events in various countries with totalitarian governments, to point out that it is an ideology doomed to failure if it is taken as State policy.
“Socialist ideology needs a concentration of power that time and time again has collapsed in communist regimes, totalitarian governments, and brutal dictatorships,” Salazar wrote in the bill.
Some Democratic congressmen during the debate expressed their concern that, when referring to socialist policies, social programs such as Medicare, Social Security or the low-cost housing could be included.
“There is nothing in this resolution about entitlement programs or prohibition of social services, or anything like that,” clarified Patrick McHenry, Republican congressman of North Carolina, who further said: “The resolution is simple. It states that Congress denounces socialism in all its forms and opposes the implementation of socialist policies in the United States."
Mario Diaz-Balart, a Republican congressman from Florida, argued that recent history has shown that while socialism and communism promise greater equality and "free" services, they "quickly degenerate into shared misery for all but a minority”.
The vote to approve this resolution was 328 in favor (75%), 86 against (20%) and 21 abstentions (5%). The 222 Republican congressmen voted in favor along with 106 Democratic congressmen, with the votes against and abstentions coming entirely from Democrats.
With the approval of this resolution in the House of Representatives by ¾ parts of the congressmen, the next step would be to take it to the Senate to also submit it to a vote; but Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., is unlikely to allow a vote on the legislation; although it could be the case that a number of liberal senators, not committed to the shadow power that dominates the party, could put pressure on him, supported by all the Republican senators who are surely in favor of condemning the socialist ideology.
It must be taken into account that of the 213 Democratic congressmen in the House, 50% approved the resolution against socialism and 10% abstained, which are those who, although they are not in favor of socialism, do not want to oppose the puppeteers who manage the party from the shadow.

I often read here at OPP how those who defend the ideas of the socialist left are confused with the "liberals", who really consider themselves to be leftists in the political spectrum; but they are not socialists, the liberals having become (according to historical development) moderate leftists, who tend towards centrism, sharing this tendency with moderate conservatives, who are on the right on the political spectrum. Which would serve to describe the political position of the members of the Republican and Democratic parties some decades ago.
Currently, the Democratic Party is in the process of being totally hijacked by the Marxists, who, concealing their true purposes, pose as "liberals" in order not to scare American society; although every day they distance themselves more from the liberal idea; and little by little the wolf begins to show its hairy ear, when certain personalities of that party declare to be "progressives" or frankly "socialists". The latter seek total control of the state and for this they develop clientelism, through the application of social welfare measures, the protection of privileges for minorities and multiculturalism, with a policy of open borders to immigration, in order to obtain votes to make their claims come true.
Socialism is a system totally contrary to liberal ideas. Economically, it is based on state ownership of the means of production, their collective administration and the distribution of goods; which implies a planning and organization of social life, attacking individual freedom that is sacrificed for the sake of collective well-being. "Socialism" and "totalitarianism" are synonymous with "collectivism"; and this, in turn, is an organization model incompatible with human freedom.
The socialists intend to distribute the wealth that others create, as long as they do not manage to totally control society, promoting laws to grant benefits that can only be granted as long as capitalism exists and there are those who pay taxes to cover the benefits granted; but all of the above changes when the socialists achieve totalitarian control of society, because together with capitalism wealth ceases to exist and the unequal distribution of misery begins, which does not affect the "new" ruling class.

Of course, for a useful idiot who defends the "Democratic Socialism" promoted by Mr. Bernie Sanders (who, without a doubt, was a supporter of the implementation of Soviet socialism in the USA during the Cold War), what was proposed by this politician Marxist is correct, without thinking about the end that this socialist pursues. Let's see what a useful idiot wrote (verbatim) here at OPP commenting on this politician: "He is for progressive taxes, a strong workplace where workers are respected and treated fairly and enjoy the fruits of collective bargaining. Old age pensions and universal health. Young people today are not stupid, they see that they are not getting the opportunity that their parents and grandparents had by birthright. They are sick of being hurt by corporate welfare and crony capitalism. McCarthyism's tale of the end of the world and warning of a communist behind every tree rings false when our companies and politicians are in bed with the Chinese, Russians and Arabs."
Whoever makes this comment forgets that Bernie Sanders was in bed with the Soviets, enemies of the USA whom he admired and that in the USSR there was no "paradise" for workers.

Socialism is the ideology of the Nazis and the communists, which arises from Marxism; being undeniable that the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and the National Socialist Party of German Workers, according to their names, in one way or another followed this ideology.
On September 19, 2019, the European Parliament approved a resolution on the importance of European historical memory for the future of Europe that equates communism and Nazism, both socialist systems.
The resolution approved by the European Parliament states that "while the crimes of the Nazi regime were evaluated and punished thanks to the Nuremberg trials, there is still an urgent need to raise awareness about the crimes perpetrated by Stalinism and other dictatorships, evaluate them morally and legally, and carry out judicial investigations on them” and recalls that “in some Member States, communist and Nazi ideologies are prohibited by law”. It also notes that "the European Union has a special responsibility to promote and protect democracy, respect for human rights and the rule of law, not only within but also outside the European Union."
The United States House of Representatives approve... (show quote)


What a laugh !!!!
Do you think they’ll cut all of their own Socialist Perks from being in congress ?
Like Free healthcare.
Pensions after 2 years .
Government write offs for being in congress,
Paid lunches
Paid. Paid . Paid . Paid
Or will Those socialist perks be ok ?

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Feb 14, 2023 16:25:40   #
Alber
 
A philosopher expressed in one of his aphorisms: “To act, think; and not to act, think.
Writing is acting. If you followed the advice of this philosopher, and thought before writing, you would not write so much nonsense.
In your first comment, following the mirage created by the left, without giving it much thought, you wrote that socialism was not the ideology of the Nazis, to which I responded duly, without you using the right of reply.
On that occasion I did not write clarifying about the "vehicles that Hitler used to seize the Weimar Republic" as you wrote, so now I will tell you that, surprisingly, the most important political aid that Hitler received was not from the capitalists but from the USSR, because the German communists encouraged by Stalin, led to his coming to power at the beginning of the thirties in the Weimar Republic, uniting the communists with the Nazis in parliament and; the Moscow newspaper Pravda in those years praised Nazism, stating that Nazi behavior was more proletarian (read more Marxist) than that of the Social Democrats, which is why many communist militants went over to the ranks of Nazism, that had equally Marxist workers slogans; being demonstrated that Marxist socialism in all its forms: international (Leninist communism) or national (Nazi-fascism), is the same poison with a different label on its container. It should also be emphasized that Lenin knew Mussolini since 1904 and the Russian Marxist satrap wrote about his Italian co-religionist: "with Mussolini, the socialism of the peninsula is finding its own way"; and in the same way, the genocidal communist Stalin, exalted both Hitler and Mussolini on several occasions, allowing this Russian autocrat to the Germans establish a secret base in Lipetsk, 500 kilometers from Moscow, where they could test their aircraft prototypes (Fokker DXIII), train their pilots and update combat tactics, thus circumventing the strong restrictions that the Treaty of Versailles imposed on Germany. The code name with which the Germans called this secret base was Wivupal.
In your second comment, you write again without thinking, because it is not socialism that gave them all the benefits that you mention; and if socialism triumphs, those benefits will come to an end, which will only be received by those who belong to the new class, since the Constitution will have been repealed and with it: the rule of law, the free market economy and individual freedom will have disappeared.

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Feb 14, 2023 21:10:41   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Alber wrote:
A philosopher expressed in one of his aphorisms: “To act, think; and not to act, think.
Writing is acting. If you followed the advice of this philosopher, and thought before writing, you would not write so much nonsense.
In your first comment, following the mirage created by the left, without giving it much thought, you wrote that socialism was not the ideology of the Nazis, to which I responded duly, without you using the right of reply.
On that occasion I did not write clarifying about the "vehicles that Hitler used to seize the Weimar Republic" as you wrote, so now I will tell you that, surprisingly, the most important political aid that Hitler received was not from the capitalists but from the USSR, because the German communists encouraged by Stalin, led to his coming to power at the beginning of the thirties in the Weimar Republic, uniting the communists with the Nazis in parliament and; the Moscow newspaper Pravda in those years praised Nazism, stating that Nazi behavior was more proletarian (read more Marxist) than that of the Social Democrats, which is why many communist militants went over to the ranks of Nazism, that had equally Marxist workers slogans; being demonstrated that Marxist socialism in all its forms: international (Leninist communism) or national (Nazi-fascism), is the same poison with a different label on its container. It should also be emphasized that Lenin knew Mussolini since 1904 and the Russian Marxist satrap wrote about his Italian co-religionist: "with Mussolini, the socialism of the peninsula is finding its own way"; and in the same way, the genocidal communist Stalin, exalted both Hitler and Mussolini on several occasions, allowing this Russian autocrat to the Germans establish a secret base in Lipetsk, 500 kilometers from Moscow, where they could test their aircraft prototypes (Fokker DXIII), train their pilots and update combat tactics, thus circumventing the strong restrictions that the Treaty of Versailles imposed on Germany. The code name with which the Germans called this secret base was Wivupal.
In your second comment, you write again without thinking, because it is not socialism that gave them all the benefits that you mention; and if socialism triumphs, those benefits will come to an end, which will only be received by those who belong to the new class, since the Constitution will have been repealed and with it: the rule of law, the free market economy and individual freedom will have disappeared.
A philosopher expressed in one of his aphorisms: “... (show quote)


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Thank you for this post! You write like an historian, especially where the NAZI's are concerned. You say you are in hiding! May I ask why? I dreamed up a reason for myself. I place you as a professor, or former one, perhaps in government, that does not want your collogues to know that you are posting on OPP!
Dreams, Bad habit, that! Hmmm, or...Alber G...

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Feb 14, 2023 21:18:12   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Alber wrote:
A philosopher expressed in one of his aphorisms: “To act, think; and not to act, think.
Writing is acting. If you followed the advice of this philosopher, and thought before writing, you would not write so much nonsense.
In your first comment, following the mirage created by the left, without giving it much thought, you wrote that socialism was not the ideology of the Nazis, to which I responded duly, without you using the right of reply.
On that occasion I did not write clarifying about the "vehicles that Hitler used to seize the Weimar Republic" as you wrote, so now I will tell you that, surprisingly, the most important political aid that Hitler received was not from the capitalists but from the USSR, because the German communists encouraged by Stalin, led to his coming to power at the beginning of the thirties in the Weimar Republic, uniting the communists with the Nazis in parliament and; the Moscow newspaper Pravda in those years praised Nazism, stating that Nazi behavior was more proletarian (read more Marxist) than that of the Social Democrats, which is why many communist militants went over to the ranks of Nazism, that had equally Marxist workers slogans; being demonstrated that Marxist socialism in all its forms: international (Leninist communism) or national (Nazi-fascism), is the same poison with a different label on its container. It should also be emphasized that Lenin knew Mussolini since 1904 and the Russian Marxist satrap wrote about his Italian co-religionist: "with Mussolini, the socialism of the peninsula is finding its own way"; and in the same way, the genocidal communist Stalin, exalted both Hitler and Mussolini on several occasions, allowing this Russian autocrat to the Germans establish a secret base in Lipetsk, 500 kilometers from Moscow, where they could test their aircraft prototypes (Fokker DXIII), train their pilots and update combat tactics, thus circumventing the strong restrictions that the Treaty of Versailles imposed on Germany. The code name with which the Germans called this secret base was Wivupal.
In your second comment, you write again without thinking, because it is not socialism that gave them all the benefits that you mention; and if socialism triumphs, those benefits will come to an end, which will only be received by those who belong to the new class, since the Constitution will have been repealed and with it: the rule of law, the free market economy and individual freedom will have disappeared.
A philosopher expressed in one of his aphorisms: “... (show quote)


It’s all leaving today .
And all of the Nazis are on he right.
Next to the Libertarians..

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Feb 14, 2023 21:23:59   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Nazi...The National SOCIALIST German Workers Party


A vehicle used to help Hitler assume power.
What did he ever do as a socialist ?
A Nationalist and Authoritarian.
Never a communist , never a socialist .
You’re confused by the moniker of his original Weimar Republic.
The Weimar socialist republic.
All left behind when he started calling his party Nazis( Nazionales)nationalists.

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Feb 14, 2023 21:27:54   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Big Bass wrote:
Hey, brainiac biden-lover malasia, how can you equate that?? Didn’t you know hitler was the leader of the Social democrat party of Germany??? Get wise to the real world, by stopping believing your make-believe world.


He was , of course but it’s not what his fight was about.
It was a vehicle.
Of the Weimar Republic not Germany .

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Feb 14, 2023 21:39:34   #
Big Bass
 
Milosia2 wrote:
A vehicle used to help Hitler assume power.
What did he ever do as a socialist ?
A Nationalist and Authoritarian.
Never a communist , never a socialist .
You’re confused by the moniker of his original Weimar Republic.
The Weimar socialist republic.
All left behind when he started calling his party Nazis( Nazionales)nationalists.


What a srupid, idiotic, asinine question. “What did he ever do as a socialist?” Go back to sleep idiot. You are a typical dead-from-the-neck up commie. Leave my space now!!!

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Feb 14, 2023 21:41:23   #
Big Bass
 
Milosia2 wrote:
He was , of course but it’s not what his fight was about.
It was a vehicle.
Of the Weimar Republic not Germany .


OK! So, bitch, you want hitler back. Get the eff out of here!!!

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Feb 15, 2023 10:32:44   #
WEBCO
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It’s all leaving today .
And all of the Nazis are on he right.
Next to the Libertarians..


Ewe are wrong on everything, including your love of Marxism. Ewe know...the ideology that was responsible for well over 50,000,000 deaths last century.

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Feb 15, 2023 13:41:51   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Big Bass wrote:
Hey, brainiac biden-lover malasia, how can you equate that?? Didn’t you know hitler was the leader of the Social democrat party of Germany??? Get wise to the real world, by stopping believing your make-believe world.


That was the name of the party before he changed it to the Nazis.
You should read the whole paragraph next time.

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Feb 15, 2023 13:42:55   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
WEBCO wrote:
Ewe are wrong on everything, including your love of Marxism. Ewe know...the ideology that was responsible for well over 50,000,000 deaths last century.


I don’t favor Marxism.
I’m a Keynesian.

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Feb 15, 2023 13:46:47   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
WEBCO wrote:
Ewe are wrong on everything, including your love of Marxism. Ewe know...the ideology that was responsible for well over 50,000,000 deaths last century.


If I love Marxism ,
Then you must love Naziism !
You’re no longer republicans.
That nic is deceiving.
Youz have no republican values . You are now TeaParty libertarians.
Embrace it and stop hiding behind your
Old Rrpublican moniker.
Teapublitaryans!!!!!!!
Sums it all up nicely !!!!!

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Feb 15, 2023 15:18:17   #
WEBCO
 
Milosia2 wrote:
If I love Marxism ,
Then you must love Naziism !
You’re no longer republicans.
That nic is deceiving.
Youz have no republican values . You are now TeaParty libertarians.
Embrace it and stop hiding behind your
Old Rrpublican moniker.
Teapublitaryans!!!!!!!
Sums it all up nicely !!!!!


They are one in the same, Nazis were Marxists. This has been proven to you time and time again. Just accept that your ideology is deadly and has NEVER worked.

I'm an independent and have been for 20+ years, ewer opinions of me are inconsequential and wrong

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