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Aug 13, 2022 22:49:47   #
Mikeyavelli
 
son of witless wrote:
Using the FBI to attack a political rival and then not getting a great big gotcha, so far, makes Donald J. Trump into a Martyr. I'm sure the Moon yelling crazies are pressuring the Biden Administration charge Donald J. Trump with something, anything, thus this desperation raid.


They couldn't find a mattress tag on one of the guest beds. This is first time that Trump is in real legal trouble. The media and DOJ are giddy with the success. Trump's a gonner now.

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Aug 13, 2022 23:01:50   #
BIRDMAN
 
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Aug 13, 2022 23:03:17   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
moldyoldy wrote:
This fool who could not be trusted with classified information, stole documents. I wonder who was reading them to tell trump what was valuable? Leticia James has him by the balls too. He took the fifth 440 times, it can be used against you in civil suits.


His taking the 5th was in effect telling that vicious & vindictive Black Widow, Leticia James, who's trying to build her sorry reputation on persecuting Trump, to take off her shoes & quietly tip toe to hell. I applaud him for doing it.

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Aug 14, 2022 00:24:56   #
Radiance3
 
Justice101 wrote:
Well, the FBI didn't perform the "search warrant" according to the law. They didn't present the warrant to Trump's lawyer who was present, nor did they allow her to witness the search being performed. It would have protected the FBI agents from suspected "abuses" like planting evidence or listening devices.

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The FBI's just took the 15 boxes without taking inventory what were in each box. A gross violation of the process.

The FBI's could fabricate or plant evidence against Trump put in the box, and then accuse and convict trump for that. In 2016, FBI's planted hoax during the FISA, and the Russia hoax report.

I don't trust FBI's anymore. They are weapons of the communist democrats. Everything they do are fabrications, assaulting president Trump and all the staff around him. E.g. Innocent Carter Page, Papadopoulos. Gen. Flynn, Manafort, Peter Navarro. Mayor Giuliani. The damages done to these men were insurmountable. They got bankrupted for legal costs . Gen. Flynn served the Armed Forces 33 years, and yet totally destroyed by the SATANIC democrat party. Same as the rest.

SATAN democrats wanted also to bankrupt president Trump. That Leticia James, a black corrupt democrat Atty. Gen. in NYC, wanted to extort and bankrupt president Trump. She is not contented that NYC is run under all corrupt black leaders, and ruined the most once beautiful city of the world. Now, it is the filthiest, most corrupt, and violent city of the world under blacks. They are jealous that Trump earned and worked for his money all the years of his life.

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Aug 14, 2022 04:00:33   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Are you not capable of thinking this through ?
Could it be , that trumpy knows whats there and is now trying to get ahead of it.
If he is not implicated for wrongdoing then how do we explain his behavior.
It isn’t mine, I didn’t put there the FBI did.
I don’t know why it was there .
Somebody including the FBI put it there to frame me.
If there’s nothing implicating him , why would he suggest the FBI planted it ?
He shouldve just said “ it’s here,
take it away “
Not the act he went into about planting things.
Are you not capable of thinking this through ? br ... (show quote)


what behavior so far he's been upfront and honest these FBI had been there week before knew the boxes were there knew what they were and had advised him to put another lock on the door this is your latest entertainment from the democrat show on the road BS daily

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Aug 14, 2022 07:25:54   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Birdmam wrote:
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Here's something for you, he won the election

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Aug 14, 2022 07:26:14   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
padremike wrote:
His taking the 5th was in effect telling that vicious & vindictive Black Widow, Leticia James, who's trying to build her sorry reputation on persecuting Trump, to take off her shoes & quietly tip toe to hell. I applaud him for doing it.


DC

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Aug 14, 2022 07:26:44   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The FBI's just took the 15 boxes without taking inventory what were in each box. A gross violation of the process.

The FBI's could fabricate or plant evidence against Trump put in the box, and then accuse and convict trump for that. In 2016, FBI's planted hoax during the FISA, and the Russia hoax report.

I don't trust FBI's anymore. They are weapons of the communist democrats. Everything they do are fabrications, assaulting president Trump and all the staff around him. E.g. Innocent Carter Page, Papadopoulos. Gen. Flynn, Manafort, Peter Navarro. Mayor Giuliani. The damages done to these men were insurmountable. They got bankrupted for legal costs . Gen. Flynn served the Armed Forces 33 years, and yet totally destroyed by the SATANIC democrat party. Same as the rest.

SATAN democrats wanted also to bankrupt president Trump. That Leticia James, a black corrupt democrat Atty. Gen. in NYC, wanted to extort and bankrupt president Trump. She is not contented that NYC is run under all corrupt black leaders, and ruined the most once beautiful city of the world. Now, it is the filthiest, most corrupt, and violent city of the world under blacks. They are jealous that Trump earned and worked for his money all the years of his life.
=============== br i The FBI's just took the 15 ... (show quote)


You've no idea what you're talking about

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Aug 14, 2022 08:10:39   #
guzzimaestro
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Here's something for you, he won the election


..he stole the election with fraud. There, fixed it

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Aug 14, 2022 08:14:36   #
Big Bass
 
Birdmam wrote:
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There’s nothing and no-one on this planet that’s pro biden.

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Aug 14, 2022 08:20:44   #
Mikeyavelli
 
padremike wrote:
His taking the 5th was in effect telling that vicious & vindictive Black Widow, Leticia James, who's trying to build her sorry reputation on persecuting Trump, to take off her shoes & quietly tip toe to hell. I applaud him for doing it.


Who carries more weight, Laetitia James or Stacey Abrams?



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Aug 14, 2022 08:30:53   #
Justice101
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The answer to all your questions is yes!.
FBI's, along with DOJ Merrick Garand, are weapons of the democrat-communist party.
Their job is to prevent Trump from running as president in 2024. But it looks like Trump will win.

Therefore, Biden, DOJ Garland, and the FBI's are doing the witch hunt on any possible clue they may trap and accuse Trump of. If they could not find any, I am afraid and certainly believe the FBI's will manufacture or fabricate document, put them inside those boxes, then blame Trump for it.
They did that during the FISA warrant to surveil on president Trump during his 2016 campaign, until he was already at the White House. There is a huge possibility that FBI's will do that again.

It turned out that president Trump had Declassified all the documents while he was still at the White House Office, and before they brought them on boxes to Mara Lago. None in those boxes were classified documents. Trump's lawyer confirmed it. John Solomon the reporter, had read the message of declassification.

The crimes Garland and FBI's did was undeniable. A gross violation of President Trump's 4th Amendment Rights. FBI's had abused that. And I think I would bring this case to the SC, and hold Garland, and the FBI's accountable. Remove the guilty from their jobs, along with Garland, and FBI director Wray. They were not 30 FBI's there were 40, involved at the raid.
================= br i The answer to all your q... (show quote)


The search warrant was way too broad. It was literally for every record produced during Trump's 4-year term of office! See warrant's subsection (c). It permits the seizure of “any government and/or Presidential Records created” throughout the four years of Trump’s presidency.

Plainly, this has nothing to do with classified information. It is mainly designed to use the criminal law — the search warrant, an intrusive tactic for retrieving evidence of crimes — to enforce the Presidential Records Act, which is not a criminal statute.

Can DOJ get away with this? Perhaps. Section 2071 is very broad, targeting anyone who “removes” or “destroys” “any” government record. If you are wondering how this did not apply to Hillary Clinton’s removal of tens of thousands of government-related emails and willful destruction of tens of thousands of others, you are not alone. In any event, Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure permits the seizure not only of evidence of a crime but also of “items illegally possessed.” It seems clear from the context that this phrase is meant to apply to items derived from criminal activity. Literally, though, it is clearly broader than that.

Since Congress did not choose to attach criminal penalties to violations of the Presidential Records Act, what we see here amounts to the Justice Department fashioning a new crime for Donald Trump. This is not my idea of the even-handed enforcement of the law — no partisan discrimination — that Attorney General Merrick Garland insisted he pursued in his remarks on Thursday.

The insinuation here isn’t hard to figure out. The government misused the Presidential Records Act, reinterpreting it as a criminal statute so that they could have a blank check to raid Trump’s home. That means the warrant allowed for the confiscation of absolutely anything related to Trump’s presidency, and the breadth of what was seized went far beyond just the excuse of needing to protect classified information (which the former president had the power to declassify).

Which only underscores how out of bounds the entire raid was. The justification is so paper-thin that it’s only logical to assume the FBI had other motives, and given the DOJ’s obvious coordination with the January 6th committee, wouldn’t that seem likely?

That’s gotta be what this is, right? AG Merrick Garland has been shamelessly coordinating raids and seizures for months now with the January 6th committee. We saw it with the raid of Jeff Clark’s home and the recent taking of phones from GOP members of Congress. Liz Cheney and company say jump, and the DOJ asks how high.

In this case, it just makes no sense that the government was so super-concerned about Trump having classified documents that they waited 18 months to go get them. Instead, it sure looks like the floundering January 6th committee has found nothing and is now using the DOJ to try to fish for more “evidence” of an organized coup.

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Aug 14, 2022 08:38:13   #
Big Bass
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Who carries more weight, Laetitia James or Stacey Abrams?


I was going to say neck and neck, but letitia doesn’t have one.

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Aug 14, 2022 08:39:41   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Justice101 wrote:
The search warrant was way too broad. It was literally for every record produced during Trump's 4-year term of office! See warrant's subsection (c). It permits the seizure of “any government and/or Presidential Records created” throughout the four years of Trump’s presidency.

Plainly, this has nothing to do with classified information. It is mainly designed to use the criminal law — the search warrant, an intrusive tactic for retrieving evidence of crimes — to enforce the Presidential Records Act, which is not a criminal statute.

Can DOJ get away with this? Perhaps. Section 2071 is very broad, targeting anyone who “removes” or “destroys” “any” government record. If you are wondering how this did not apply to Hillary Clinton’s removal of tens of thousands of government-related emails and willful destruction of tens of thousands of others, you are not alone. In any event, Rule 41 of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure permits the seizure not only of evidence of a crime but also of “items illegally possessed.” It seems clear from the context that this phrase is meant to apply to items derived from criminal activity. Literally, though, it is clearly broader than that.

Since Congress did not choose to attach criminal penalties to violations of the Presidential Records Act, what we see here amounts to the Justice Department fashioning a new crime for Donald Trump. This is not my idea of the even-handed enforcement of the law — no partisan discrimination — that Attorney General Merrick Garland insisted he pursued in his remarks on Thursday.

The insinuation here isn’t hard to figure out. The government misused the Presidential Records Act, reinterpreting it as a criminal statute so that they could have a blank check to raid Trump’s home. That means the warrant allowed for the confiscation of absolutely anything related to Trump’s presidency, and the breadth of what was seized went far beyond just the excuse of needing to protect classified information (which the former president had the power to declassify).

Which only underscores how out of bounds the entire raid was. The justification is so paper-thin that it’s only logical to assume the FBI had other motives, and given the DOJ’s obvious coordination with the January 6th committee, wouldn’t that seem likely?

That’s gotta be what this is, right? AG Merrick Garland has been shamelessly coordinating raids and seizures for months now with the January 6th committee. We saw it with the raid of Jeff Clark’s home and the recent taking of phones from GOP members of Congress. Liz Cheney and company say jump, and the DOJ asks how high.

In this case, it just makes no sense that the government was so super-concerned about Trump having classified documents that they waited 18 months to go get them. Instead, it sure looks like the floundering January 6th committee has found nothing and is now using the DOJ to try to fish for more “evidence” of an organized coup.
The search warrant was way too broad. It was liter... (show quote)


Bravo! Good post.
It all boils down to optics. Treat Trump like a criminal. And they have been doing that since he descended the escalator.

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Aug 14, 2022 08:40:13   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Big Bass wrote:
I was going to say neck and neck, but letitia doesn’t have one.


😆👍

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