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May 9, 2021 13:54:25   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
woodguru wrote:
I don't understand people who lump ethnic or religious groups together as a single block of ideals, I know a lot of christians that support free choice, there are Jews and blacks that supported trump.

People like you do a disservice to the individuality of people of different ethnic and religious groups

You are of Russian heritage but you are clueless about the same anti media rhetoric and misinformation techniques Putin uses in Russia...and that Putin has the support of 30% of the ignorant and stupid people in Russia that embrace fascism. Your parents never got through to you that fascism is tied to corporate control of government through government favoring business interests over people.
I don't understand people who lump ethnic or relig... (show quote)




You are one to talk. You always lump people together.

Christian friends? BullBiden!!

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May 9, 2021 15:32:10   #
Homestead
 
Kevyn wrote:
What don’t you get? The white nationalist you align yourself with will put you in an oven if given the chance. Look at the horrific anti semantic crap they routinely post here.



Communist Goals (1963) - How Many Have Been Fulfilled?

The Naked Communist, a very eye-opening book written by W. Cleon Skousen. It is stunning and quite depressing to see how many of the goals of the American Communist Party are accomplished. It's motivating to those of us who are determined to restore America!

Note by Webmaster: The Congressional Record back this far has not been digitized and posted on the Internet.
It will probably be available at your nearest library that is a federal repository. Call them and ask them.
Your college library is probably a repository. This is an excellent source of government records.

Communist Goals (1963)
Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35
January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals
EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, January 10, 1963
Mr. HERLONG. Mr. Speaker, Mrs. Patricia Nordman of De Land, Fla., is an ardent and articulate opponent of communism, and until recently published the De Land Courier, which she dedicated to the purpose of alerting the public to the dangers of communism in America.
At Mrs. Nordman's request, I include in the RECORD, under unanimous consent, the following "Current Communist Goals," which she identifies as an excerpt from "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen:
[From "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen]

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would
be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist
affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist
domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of
Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free
elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States
has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is
rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its
own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the
world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow.
Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now
doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American
institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism
and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control
of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or
organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial
writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of
artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate
all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless,
awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote
ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship"
and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography
and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural,
healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social"
religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual
maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on
the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and
state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-
fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation
between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish
aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of
American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big
picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists
took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any
part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental
health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of
the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies.
Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but
psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a
means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist
goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy
divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence
of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children
to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate
aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest
groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic,
political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready
for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connelly reservation so the United States cannot prevent the
World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give
the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

Documentation
Webmaster Forest Glen Durland found the document in the library.
Sources are listed below.

The quote starts on page 259.
Microfilm:
California State University at San Jose
Clark Library, Government Floor
Phone (408)924-2770
Microfilm
Call Number: J 11 .R5
Congressional Record, Vol. 109
88th Congress, 1st Session
Appendix Pages A1-A2842
Jan. 9-May 7, 1963
Reel 12

The book was found in the off campus stacks, was ordered and checked. The quote below was checked against the original and is correct. The few errors in the copy from the Congressional Record are shown in [ ] .
The quote starts on page 259.
California State University at San Jose, Clark Library stacks call number:
Naked Communist
HX
56
S55

Book title page:
Skousen, W. Cleon. Naked Communist
Salt Lake City, Utah: Ensign Publishing Co.
C. 1961 , 9th edition July 1961.

You will find the Ten Planks of the Communist Manifesto interesting at this point. Here they are:
In the early '60's during the days of the "former" Soviet Union, Russian Premier Nikita Kruschev pounded his shoe on the podium of the United Nations and shouted to the West, "We will bury you!" Fearing an invasion from the Reds, America proceeded to build the most awesome military machine in history. Unfortunately, we forgot to guard our political home-front from being taken over by socialist - communist - liberal activists who would gain office and destroy American law by process of gradually installing the Communist agenda within our legal system and separate branches of government. The Communist program from the start has been one which sees their revolution of 1917 successful only upon total domination of the world.

Americans, being the most naive people among the nations, now believe that Communism is dead because the Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain have been removed. The ironic truth is that Communism has just switched names to become more "politically correct". Today it is called international democracy. The reason that the Berlin Wall came crashing down is not because Communism is dead but because they have achieved the planned agenda to communize the West, including America. Washington D.C. has indeed become part of the New World Order of atheist governments. With the last vestiges of Christian law having been removed from "American government" over the last twenty years, there is no longer a threat of resistance against world Communism. In reality, "American government" became part of the Iron Curtain, thus there was no more need for the likes of a Berlin Wall.

Once again, in their foolishness, the American public has believed the lies of their "leaders" who applaud "the fall of Communism", while they have sold out the country to anti-Christian, anti-American statutes and regulations on the federal, state, and local levels. Posted below is a comparison of the original ten planks of the Communist Manifesto written by Karl Marx in 1848, along with the American adopted counterpart of each of the planks, The American people have truly been "buried in Communism" by their own politicians of both the Republican and Democratic parties. One other thing to remember, Karl Marx was stating in the Communist Manifesto that these planks will test whether a country has become communist or not. If they are all in effect and in force the country IS communist. Communism, but by any other name...??

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.
The 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
We call in government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986);
Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC).

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State.
We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.

10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.
People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome-Based "Education" .

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May 9, 2021 15:36:30   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
proud republican wrote:
Why Jews just like Bkacks vote Democrat?? Democrats don't give a shit about either group!! Why be so stupid???


Maybe the Democrats are the lessor of two evils

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May 9, 2021 15:42:48   #
Homestead
 
Since when is the devil the lessor of two evils.

The devil might tell you that or one of his followers.

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May 9, 2021 16:10:04   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
You're really NWR.....You leave my parents out of this....

Central to fascism is the need to destroy truth. It’s important because truth is the heart of liberal democracy. The two ideals of liberal democracy are liberty and equality. If your belief system is shot through with lies, you’re not free. Nobody thinks of the citizens of North Korea as free, because their actions are controlled by lies.

Truth is required to act freely. Freedom requires knowledge, and in order to act freely in the world, you need to know what the world is and know what you’re doing. You only know what you’re doing if you have access to the truth. So freedom requires truth, and so to smash freedom you must smash truth.

Part of what fascist politics does is get people to disassociate from reality. You get them to sign on to this fantasy version of reality, usually a nationalist narrative about the decline of the country and the need for a strong leader to return it to greatness (MAGA), and from then on their anchor isn’t the world around them--it’s the leader.

You conservatives point to liberals and claim they are stealing your freedom when you've given up your freedom to follow a party that is controlled by lies. You conservatives look to Marxism and Fascism and all the other isms and think they ALL belong to liberals when Marxism and Fascism are distinct to left and right-wing ideologies. Well, as I explained to CD the difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals recognize warts in their ideology whereas conservatives believe wholeheartedly that all warts belong to liberals and you conservatives are completely blemish-free.

Well, it ain't so, and because you don't recognize that fascism is part of your ideology you are helpless to defend against it when it rears its ugly head...

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May 9, 2021 16:19:46   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
PeterS wrote:
Central to fascism is the need to destroy truth. It’s important because truth is the heart of liberal democracy. The two ideals of liberal democracy are liberty and equality. If your belief system is shot through with lies, you’re not free. Nobody thinks of the citizens of North Korea as free, because their actions are controlled by lies.

Truth is required to act freely. Freedom requires knowledge, and in order to act freely in the world, you need to know what the world is and know what you’re doing. You only know what you’re doing if you have access to the truth. So freedom requires truth, and so to smash freedom you must smash truth.

Part of what fascist politics does is get people to disassociate from reality. You get them to sign on to this fantasy version of reality, usually a nationalist narrative about the decline of the country and the need for a strong leader to return it to greatness (MAGA), and from then on their anchor isn’t the world around them--it’s the leader.

You conservatives point to liberals and claim they are stealing your freedom when you've given up your freedom to follow a party that is controlled by lies. You conservatives look to Marxism and Fascism and all the other isms and think they ALL belong to liberals when Marxism and Fascism are distinct to left and right-wing ideologies. Well, as I explained to CD the difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals recognize warts in their ideology whereas conservatives believe wholeheartedly that all warts belong to liberals and you conservatives are completely blemish-free.

Well, it ain't so, and because you don't recognize that fascism is part of your ideology you are helpless to defend against it when it rears its ugly head...
Central to fascism is the need to destroy truth. I... (show quote)



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May 9, 2021 16:25:27   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Homestead wrote:
Since when is the devil the lessor of two evils.

The devil might tell you that or one of his followers.


Donny is the Devil. That makes democrat the lessor of two evils. But both parties are corrupt, maybe beyond redemption and a divided country can not stand

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May 9, 2021 16:43:50   #
Homestead
 
PeterS wrote:
Central to fascism is the need to destroy truth. It’s important because truth is the heart of liberal democracy. The two ideals of liberal democracy are liberty and equality. If your belief system is shot through with lies, you’re not free. Nobody thinks of the citizens of North Korea as free, because their actions are controlled by lies.

Truth is required to act freely. Freedom requires knowledge, and in order to act freely in the world, you need to know what the world is and know what you’re doing. You only know what you’re doing if you have access to the truth. So freedom requires truth, and so to smash freedom you must smash truth.

Part of what fascist politics does is get people to disassociate from reality. You get them to sign on to this fantasy version of reality, usually a nationalist narrative about the decline of the country and the need for a strong leader to return it to greatness (MAGA), and from then on their anchor isn’t the world around them--it’s the leader.

You conservatives point to liberals and claim they are stealing your freedom when you've given up your freedom to follow a party that is controlled by lies. You conservatives look to Marxism and Fascism and all the other isms and think they ALL belong to liberals when Marxism and Fascism are distinct to left and right-wing ideologies. Well, as I explained to CD the difference between liberals and conservatives is that liberals recognize warts in their ideology whereas conservatives believe wholeheartedly that all warts belong to liberals and you conservatives are completely blemish-free.

Well, it ain't so, and because you don't recognize that fascism is part of your ideology you are helpless to defend against it when it rears its ugly head...
Central to fascism is the need to destroy truth. I... (show quote)


You seem to think that freedom is fascism, and giving the state more power over your life is freedom.

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May 9, 2021 18:11:41   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
proud republican wrote:
Oh pleaseeeee!!!! Did you know Nazis are aligned themselves with Socialists, something that your Party seem to adore!!!


I love Bibi, and as long as he doesn't give land for peace, I'll continue to love him. Israel is small enough already. Obama wanted to make it even smaller. That's why they didn't get along. Bibi learned his lesson, once was enough and he got voted out. Since he's returned to power he hasn't budged.

I also think God will continue to bring His Children home though. Either by blessing Israel more or by force. They're leaving France now and I'd hate the brain drain from the US, but they're leaving NY and CA both now. The quicker they return home the quicker they'll rebuild the Temple again. They have always rebuild the Temple once they returned home. They lost Hollywood and they're losing NYC. The exodus continues. If and when you return home, I'll have another friend I can visit when I renew my passport and go to Israel. I want to stay longer than a week or two. So, I need a room or shed to crash in. I can't afford an expensive hotel for that long and visit all the places I want to (hint, hint). I have a friend in the south and in Jerusalem. Now I just need one in the north and east (hint, hint).

You might like these Jewish singers. Jane Bordeaux (2) & Yonina (2). Beautiful voices and I don't understand a single word unless it's captioned or in English.

https://youtu.be/5t59s1sa1oc

https://youtu.be/Xc83jmVtiBQ

https://youtu.be/I0z-3cuf1Ws

https://youtu.be/alI7YGMOMH8

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May 9, 2021 18:14:50   #
martsiva
 
Kevyn wrote:
What don’t you get? The white nationalist you align yourself with will put you in an oven if given the chance. Look at the horrific anti semantic crap they routinely post here.


There you go again - showing your ignorance!! One more time!!! Nationalism - devotion to one`s country - patriotism - belief in an independent state!! It is people like you and your ilk who want people to believe the LIE that nationalism and white supremacy are the same thing!!

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May 9, 2021 18:16:58   #
son of witless
 
proud republican wrote:
Why Jews just like Bkacks vote Democrat?? Democrats don't give a shit about either group!! Why be so stupid???


I have some Jewish friends who are very pro Israel and I thought they liked Donald J. Trump at least because he is pro Israel and The Democrats hate Israel. However, when Uncle Joe won the election they were dancing in the streets. I put it down to divided loyalties.

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May 9, 2021 19:22:32   #
teabag09
 
Kevyn wrote:
What don’t you get? The white nationalist you align yourself with will put you in an oven if given the chance. Look at the horrific anti semantic crap they routinely post here.


You've got it bass ackwards as usual. Totally you! Mike

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May 9, 2021 20:08:37   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
son of witless wrote:
I have some Jewish friends who are very pro Israel and I thought they liked Donald J. Trump at least because he is pro Israel and The Democrats hate Israel. However, when Uncle Joe won the election they were dancing in the streets. I put it down to divided loyalties.


Why wouldn't they be happy???

America is back to business in the ME...

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May 9, 2021 20:20:25   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
proud republican wrote:


Your Britannica is a very one sided winner's pov
Hitler's main goal was reunification.
You people know nothing

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May 9, 2021 20:21:19   #
claudio1940
 
Couldn't that be, that it's you who doesn't understand ...?

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