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Jun 1, 2014 20:55:16   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Sometimes when shady plans backfire, they backfire really well. This was definitely the case on Saturday May 31st in Tulsa Oklahoma, as The Oklahoma Open Carry Association met Moms Demand Action for the first time.
The anti-gun group requested a booth at the local farmers market and was denied, so they set up shop right on the outskirts of the downtown Tulsa event in order to gather signatures. They were a bit surprised when members of The Oklahoma Open Carry Association approached them to ask some questions. As is usually the case when dealing with liberals, the questions we asked went unanswered as the host of their event, (who incidentally, didn't look like that much of a mom seeing as though he was a man) deflected the questions and attempted to change the subject, ridicule and even accuse us of wanting to start a war with the police. This came about because he made it perfectly clear that he didn't want to be in any public establishment with citizens carrying handguns in the open. He was alluding to his belief that we are just a bunch of untrained rednecks that simply shoot indiscriminately in all directions just to prove how big our egos are.

This is when yours truly cited some statistics concerning the fact that police actually kill more innocent people than concealed carry holders. As noted above, he responded by accusing us of wanting to start a war with the police. All we were trying to do is find out how their plans would ensure criminals surrendered their weapons while simultaneously protecting our rights.
It was funny that he accused us of such hog wash because later, a Tulsa Police Officer agreed to allow us to pose around his police car after telling us he supports citizens openly carrying firearms. The officer had stopped to talk to us, of course, because ignorant people called them; though it appears more people were concerned about the service dog being in the farmers market than our guns. This is Oklahoma after all.
What happened next is the true sound of sweet justice. Moms demand Action has been making headlines as they have launched a campaign to pressure restaurants and other local businesses to turn away customers exercising their rights to carry. Many have capitulated, Starbucks for one, and now Chili's is considering asking patrons to leave their guns at home as well.
Oklahoma Open Carry had received word that MDA was going to go to the local Chipotle's for lunch, so they decided to meet them there. Chipotle restaurants in Oklahoma have officially taken the position that they would rather see people leave their guns at home, but they won't ask you to leave if you don't; after all, in Oklahoma it is legal to openly carry, so they at least respect the law and your rights.
Moms Demand Action on the other hand, seemed to be demanding a little much on this Saturday afternoon as they approached management and asked them to throw OKOCA members out of the restaurant because they were "offended" by the presence of guns.

To be honest, we were expecting this, and we figured that we would be asked to leave; but what happened next was nothing less than awesome. The manager refused to kick out OKOCA and even gave them free drinks. MDA activists then proceeded to take pictures of the gun owners and attempted to portray them as intimidating and threatening. The management wasn't having any of it; he threw Moms Demand Action out of his store!
I conducted an interview with the manager, and while I asked him if I could quote him directly, he asked that I do not. He said that he wasn't going to have people treating paying customers rudely in his store. They simply do not allow customers to take pictures of other customers; it's a "zero tolerance" policy if you will. He also said that he has no position on open carry, and he understands that it is legal to carry in the state. Finally, he acknowledged that people behaving in the manner as MDA had in his store was actually more harmful to people than the act of lawfully carrying a firearm.
The funny thing about all of this was the fact that these people really have no idea what the true cause of a "mass shooting" is. They really believe that passing more laws is the answer to stopping criminals who already break "existing laws." It is the one issue that never gets addressed with a liberal, as they always attempt to redirect with their "Alinsky" tactics, in an attempt to make you appear irrational.
It's a shame when anyone is murdered; and it is equally shameful when they are murdered by a knife, a baseball bat, a car, an axe, a broken beer bottle, a hammer, or someone's bare hands for that matter, as it is when someone uses a gun. What's even more shameful, however, is when uninformed people with an agenda try to render an innocent individual powerless to prevent themselves from being murdered?
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Jun 1, 2014 21:17:48   #
Brian Devon
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Sometimes when shady plans backfire, they backfire really well. This was definitely the case on Saturday May 31st in Tulsa Oklahoma, as The Oklahoma Open Carry Association met Moms Demand Action for the first time.
The anti-gun group requested a booth at the local farmers market and was denied, so they set up shop right on the outskirts of the downtown Tulsa event in order to gather signatures. They were a bit surprised when members of The Oklahoma Open Carry Association approached them to ask some questions. As is usually the case when dealing with liberals, the questions we asked went unanswered as the host of their event, (who incidentally, didn't look like that much of a mom seeing as though he was a man) deflected the questions and attempted to change the subject, ridicule and even accuse us of wanting to start a war with the police. This came about because he made it perfectly clear that he didn't want to be in any public establishment with citizens carrying handguns in the open. He was alluding to his belief that we are just a bunch of untrained rednecks that simply shoot indiscriminately in all directions just to prove how big our egos are.

This is when yours truly cited some statistics concerning the fact that police actually kill more innocent people than concealed carry holders. As noted above, he responded by accusing us of wanting to start a war with the police. All we were trying to do is find out how their plans would ensure criminals surrendered their weapons while simultaneously protecting our rights.
It was funny that he accused us of such hog wash because later, a Tulsa Police Officer agreed to allow us to pose around his police car after telling us he supports citizens openly carrying firearms. The officer had stopped to talk to us, of course, because ignorant people called them; though it appears more people were concerned about the service dog being in the farmers market than our guns. This is Oklahoma after all.
What happened next is the true sound of sweet justice. Moms demand Action has been making headlines as they have launched a campaign to pressure restaurants and other local businesses to turn away customers exercising their rights to carry. Many have capitulated, Starbucks for one, and now Chili's is considering asking patrons to leave their guns at home as well.
Oklahoma Open Carry had received word that MDA was going to go to the local Chipotle's for lunch, so they decided to meet them there. Chipotle restaurants in Oklahoma have officially taken the position that they would rather see people leave their guns at home, but they won't ask you to leave if you don't; after all, in Oklahoma it is legal to openly carry, so they at least respect the law and your rights.
Moms Demand Action on the other hand, seemed to be demanding a little much on this Saturday afternoon as they approached management and asked them to throw OKOCA members out of the restaurant because they were "offended" by the presence of guns.

To be honest, we were expecting this, and we figured that we would be asked to leave; but what happened next was nothing less than awesome. The manager refused to kick out OKOCA and even gave them free drinks. MDA activists then proceeded to take pictures of the gun owners and attempted to portray them as intimidating and threatening. The management wasn't having any of it; he threw Moms Demand Action out of his store!
I conducted an interview with the manager, and while I asked him if I could quote him directly, he asked that I do not. He said that he wasn't going to have people treating paying customers rudely in his store. They simply do not allow customers to take pictures of other customers; it's a "zero tolerance" policy if you will. He also said that he has no position on open carry, and he understands that it is legal to carry in the state. Finally, he acknowledged that people behaving in the manner as MDA had in his store was actually more harmful to people than the act of lawfully carrying a firearm.
The funny thing about all of this was the fact that these people really have no idea what the true cause of a "mass shooting" is. They really believe that passing more laws is the answer to stopping criminals who already break "existing laws." It is the one issue that never gets addressed with a liberal, as they always attempt to redirect with their "Alinsky" tactics, in an attempt to make you appear irrational.
It's a shame when anyone is murdered; and it is equally shameful when they are murdered by a knife, a baseball bat, a car, an axe, a broken beer bottle, a hammer, or someone's bare hands for that matter, as it is when someone uses a gun. What's even more shameful, however, is when uninformed people with an agenda try to render an innocent individual powerless to prevent themselves from being murdered?
Don't forget to Like Freedom Outpost on Facebook, Google Plus, Tea Party Community & Twitter.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/06/tulsa-chipotle-kicks-anti-gunners-moms-demand-action-rude-behavior/#qIImqx2lFmgByExk.99
Sometimes when shady plans backfire, they backfire... (show quote)





************

Openly carry a gun into a California restaurant? You are subject to arrest; one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

I have never seen anyone, other than a member of law enforcement ever carry a gun into an eatery. I've never even sign a sign pertaining to gun carrying at any California business.

There won't be any tourism boycott of Oklahoma by Californians. That would be about as necessary as discouraging folks from vacationing in North Korea.

As Oklahoma goes, so goes Georgia.

As California goes, so goes the nation

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Jun 1, 2014 21:17:59   #
saveamerica Loc: Texas
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Sometimes when shady plans backfire, they backfire really well. This was definitely the case on Saturday May 31st in Tulsa Oklahoma, as The Oklahoma Open Carry Association met Moms Demand Action for the first time.
The anti-gun group requested a booth at the local farmers market and was denied, so they set up shop right on the outskirts of the downtown Tulsa event in order to gather signatures. They were a bit surprised when members of The Oklahoma Open Carry Association approached them to ask some questions. As is usually the case when dealing with liberals, the questions we asked went unanswered as the host of their event, (who incidentally, didn't look like that much of a mom seeing as though he was a man) deflected the questions and attempted to change the subject, ridicule and even accuse us of wanting to start a war with the police. This came about because he made it perfectly clear that he didn't want to be in any public establishment with citizens carrying handguns in the open. He was alluding to his belief that we are just a bunch of untrained rednecks that simply shoot indiscriminately in all directions just to prove how big our egos are.

This is when yours truly cited some statistics concerning the fact that police actually kill more innocent people than concealed carry holders. As noted above, he responded by accusing us of wanting to start a war with the police. All we were trying to do is find out how their plans would ensure criminals surrendered their weapons while simultaneously protecting our rights.
It was funny that he accused us of such hog wash because later, a Tulsa Police Officer agreed to allow us to pose around his police car after telling us he supports citizens openly carrying firearms. The officer had stopped to talk to us, of course, because ignorant people called them; though it appears more people were concerned about the service dog being in the farmers market than our guns. This is Oklahoma after all.
What happened next is the true sound of sweet justice. Moms demand Action has been making headlines as they have launched a campaign to pressure restaurants and other local businesses to turn away customers exercising their rights to carry. Many have capitulated, Starbucks for one, and now Chili's is considering asking patrons to leave their guns at home as well.
Oklahoma Open Carry had received word that MDA was going to go to the local Chipotle's for lunch, so they decided to meet them there. Chipotle restaurants in Oklahoma have officially taken the position that they would rather see people leave their guns at home, but they won't ask you to leave if you don't; after all, in Oklahoma it is legal to openly carry, so they at least respect the law and your rights.
Moms Demand Action on the other hand, seemed to be demanding a little much on this Saturday afternoon as they approached management and asked them to throw OKOCA members out of the restaurant because they were "offended" by the presence of guns.

To be honest, we were expecting this, and we figured that we would be asked to leave; but what happened next was nothing less than awesome. The manager refused to kick out OKOCA and even gave them free drinks. MDA activists then proceeded to take pictures of the gun owners and attempted to portray them as intimidating and threatening. The management wasn't having any of it; he threw Moms Demand Action out of his store!
I conducted an interview with the manager, and while I asked him if I could quote him directly, he asked that I do not. He said that he wasn't going to have people treating paying customers rudely in his store. They simply do not allow customers to take pictures of other customers; it's a "zero tolerance" policy if you will. He also said that he has no position on open carry, and he understands that it is legal to carry in the state. Finally, he acknowledged that people behaving in the manner as MDA had in his store was actually more harmful to people than the act of lawfully carrying a firearm.
The funny thing about all of this was the fact that these people really have no idea what the true cause of a "mass shooting" is. They really believe that passing more laws is the answer to stopping criminals who already break "existing laws." It is the one issue that never gets addressed with a liberal, as they always attempt to redirect with their "Alinsky" tactics, in an attempt to make you appear irrational.
It's a shame when anyone is murdered; and it is equally shameful when they are murdered by a knife, a baseball bat, a car, an axe, a broken beer bottle, a hammer, or someone's bare hands for that matter, as it is when someone uses a gun. What's even more shameful, however, is when uninformed people with an agenda try to render an innocent individual powerless to prevent themselves from being murdered?
Don't forget to Like Freedom Outpost on Facebook, Google Plus, Tea Party Community & Twitter.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/06/tulsa-chipotle-kicks-anti-gunners-moms-demand-action-rude-behavior/#qIImqx2lFmgByExk.99
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I seen that story today and laugh as I read it, it couldn't have happen to a better group of people. I wish I could have been there.

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Jun 1, 2014 22:06:15   #
missinglink Loc: Tralfamadore
 
I really do not think you or anyone else from California not going to Oklahoma will amount to a hill of beans to them!! LMAO

Brian Devon wrote:
************

Openly carry a gun into a California restaurant? You are subject to arrest; one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

I have never seen anyone, other than a member of law enforcement ever carry a gun into an eatery. I've never even sign a sign pertaining to gun carrying at any California business.

There won't be any tourism boycott of Oklahoma by Californians. That would be about as necessary as discouraging folks from vacationing in North Korea.

As Oklahoma goes, so goes Georgia.

As California goes, so goes the nation
************ br br Openly carry a gun into a Cali... (show quote)

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Jun 1, 2014 22:13:37   #
Kevyn
 
Brian Devon wrote:
************

Openly carry a gun into a California restaurant? You are subject to arrest; one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

I have never seen anyone, other than a member of law enforcement ever carry a gun into an eatery. I've never even sign a sign pertaining to gun carrying at any California business.

There won't be any tourism boycott of Oklahoma by Californians. That would be about as necessary as discouraging folks from vacationing in North Korea.

As Oklahoma goes, so goes Georgia.

As California goes, so goes the nation
************ br br Openly carry a gun into a Cali... (show quote)


Smart, true and to the point.

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Jun 1, 2014 22:20:35   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
Kevyn wrote:
Smart, true and to the point.


The proggie government in CA only want the gangs and other criminal types to have guns, not law abiding citizens. But they do want them for themselves and/or their bodyguards.

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Jun 1, 2014 23:19:09   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
States permit open carry without requiring the citizen to apply for any permit or license: (11)

AlaskaMontanaIdahoWyomingNevadaArizonaNew MexicoSouth DakotaVermontKentuckyVirginia

States permit open carry with restrictions: (13)

UtahNorth DakotaMinnesotaIowaTennesseeMississippiGeorgiaIndianaMarylandNew JerseyRhode IslandConnecticutMassachusetts

States prohibit open carry: (7)

New YorkOklahomaSouth CarolinaArkansasTexasIllinoisFlorida

Guess not!!!

Brian Devon wrote:
************

Openly carry a gun into a California restaurant? You are subject to arrest; one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

I have never seen anyone, other than a member of law enforcement ever carry a gun into an eatery. I've never even sign a sign pertaining to gun carrying at any California business.

There won't be any tourism boycott of Oklahoma by Californians. That would be about as necessary as discouraging folks from vacationing in North Korea.

As Oklahoma goes, so goes Georgia.

As California goes, so goes the nation
************ br br Openly carry a gun into a Cali... (show quote)

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Jun 1, 2014 23:34:04   #
Kevyn
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
The proggie government in CA only want the gangs and other criminal types to have guns, not law abiding citizens. But they do want them for themselves and/or their bodyguards.


I am unsure of what a proggie government is, google brought up perogies which are Polish ravioli filled with cheese or kraut and fried in butter but I don't think that is what you are talking about. The perogies by the way are very good when eaten with applesauce or sour cream I recommend you try them if given the oppertunity. It is a pretty good bet that anyone in California other than the gangs and criminals would prefer that gangs and criminals are disarmed that is pretty obviously the whole point of regulating firearms. The number of firearms in the hands of gang members and criminals that were once in the possession of law abiding citizens is one of the reasons driving many wishing for tighter regulation of firearms. Myself, I am packing heat most of the time and have no qualms about blasting anyone who deserves to be blasted, provided of course that they meet the legal requirements for shooting.

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Jun 1, 2014 23:41:16   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
Kevyn wrote:
Smart, true and to the point.


Kevyn, I have to ask. Do you & Brian have a "thing" going? It sounds as if you could be at least fraternal twins sometimes. Just curious.

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Jun 1, 2014 23:51:48   #
Brian Devon
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Kevyn, I have to ask. Do you & Brian have a "thing" going? It sounds as if you could be at least fraternal twins sometimes. Just curious.





************
Dennis, are you a full Moto or just a quasi-Moto??? Just curious.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Jun 1, 2014 23:54:04   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Brian Devon wrote:
************

Openly carry a gun into a California restaurant? You are subject to arrest; one year in jail and a $1,000 fine.

I have never seen anyone, other than a member of law enforcement ever carry a gun into an eatery. I've never even sign a sign pertaining to gun carrying at any California business.

There won't be any tourism boycott of Oklahoma by Californians. That would be about as necessary as discouraging folks from vacationing in North Korea.

As Oklahoma goes, so goes Georgia.

As California goes, so goes the nation
************ br br Openly carry a gun into a Cali... (show quote)


"As California goes, so goes the nation?" Does this mean, Mr. Multi-Cultural, that we can have spoiled little rich kids stab 3 people, run over another, and then shoot some more because they can't get laid? Actually, if you discount Atlanta, which is, according to you, the only part of GA worth visiting, you are much more likely to get shot in California than GA. Considering the fact that, unlike you, we also have lower taxes and a balanced budget, I cant help but wonder what makes you think Californians are smarter than us?

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Jun 2, 2014 00:01:35   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
bmac32 wrote:
States permit open carry without requiring the citizen to apply for any permit or license: (11)

AlaskaMontanaIdahoWyomingNevadaArizonaNew MexicoSouth DakotaVermontKentuckyVirginia

States permit open carry with restrictions: (13)

UtahNorth DakotaMinnesotaIowaTennesseeMississippiGeorgiaIndianaMarylandNew JerseyRhode IslandConnecticutMassachusetts

States prohibit open carry: (7)

New YorkOklahomaSouth CarolinaArkansasTexasIllinoisFlorida

Guess not!!!


You forgot NH. They have open carry. I'm not sure about restrictions, etc., and NC. NC, at least several years ago, went county to county about unlicensed open carry. Most counties allowed open carry unlicensed, some had open carry unlicensed only outside city limits, it was a mess. Fortunately, they recognize a GA permit.

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Jun 2, 2014 00:23:36   #
Vacaman
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
Sometimes when shady plans backfire, they backfire really well. This was definitely the case on Saturday May 31st in Tulsa Oklahoma, as The Oklahoma Open Carry Association met Moms Demand Action for the first time.
The anti-gun group requested a booth at the local farmers market and was denied, so they set up shop right on the outskirts of the downtown Tulsa event in order to gather signatures. They were a bit surprised when members of The Oklahoma Open Carry Association approached them to ask some questions. As is usually the case when dealing with liberals, the questions we asked went unanswered as the host of their event, (who incidentally, didn't look like that much of a mom seeing as though he was a man) deflected the questions and attempted to change the subject, ridicule and even accuse us of wanting to start a war with the police. This came about because he made it perfectly clear that he didn't want to be in any public establishment with citizens carrying handguns in the open. He was alluding to his belief that we are just a bunch of untrained rednecks that simply shoot indiscriminately in all directions just to prove how big our egos are.

This is when yours truly cited some statistics concerning the fact that police actually kill more innocent people than concealed carry holders. As noted above, he responded by accusing us of wanting to start a war with the police. All we were trying to do is find out how their plans would ensure criminals surrendered their weapons while simultaneously protecting our rights.
It was funny that he accused us of such hog wash because later, a Tulsa Police Officer agreed to allow us to pose around his police car after telling us he supports citizens openly carrying firearms. The officer had stopped to talk to us, of course, because ignorant people called them; though it appears more people were concerned about the service dog being in the farmers market than our guns. This is Oklahoma after all.
What happened next is the true sound of sweet justice. Moms demand Action has been making headlines as they have launched a campaign to pressure restaurants and other local businesses to turn away customers exercising their rights to carry. Many have capitulated, Starbucks for one, and now Chili's is considering asking patrons to leave their guns at home as well.
Oklahoma Open Carry had received word that MDA was going to go to the local Chipotle's for lunch, so they decided to meet them there. Chipotle restaurants in Oklahoma have officially taken the position that they would rather see people leave their guns at home, but they won't ask you to leave if you don't; after all, in Oklahoma it is legal to openly carry, so they at least respect the law and your rights.
Moms Demand Action on the other hand, seemed to be demanding a little much on this Saturday afternoon as they approached management and asked them to throw OKOCA members out of the restaurant because they were "offended" by the presence of guns.

To be honest, we were expecting this, and we figured that we would be asked to leave; but what happened next was nothing less than awesome. The manager refused to kick out OKOCA and even gave them free drinks. MDA activists then proceeded to take pictures of the gun owners and attempted to portray them as intimidating and threatening. The management wasn't having any of it; he threw Moms Demand Action out of his store!
I conducted an interview with the manager, and while I asked him if I could quote him directly, he asked that I do not. He said that he wasn't going to have people treating paying customers rudely in his store. They simply do not allow customers to take pictures of other customers; it's a "zero tolerance" policy if you will. He also said that he has no position on open carry, and he understands that it is legal to carry in the state. Finally, he acknowledged that people behaving in the manner as MDA had in his store was actually more harmful to people than the act of lawfully carrying a firearm.
The funny thing about all of this was the fact that these people really have no idea what the true cause of a "mass shooting" is. They really believe that passing more laws is the answer to stopping criminals who already break "existing laws." It is the one issue that never gets addressed with a liberal, as they always attempt to redirect with their "Alinsky" tactics, in an attempt to make you appear irrational.
It's a shame when anyone is murdered; and it is equally shameful when they are murdered by a knife, a baseball bat, a car, an axe, a broken beer bottle, a hammer, or someone's bare hands for that matter, as it is when someone uses a gun. What's even more shameful, however, is when uninformed people with an agenda try to render an innocent individual powerless to prevent themselves from being murdered?
Don't forget to Like Freedom Outpost on Facebook, Google Plus, Tea Party Community & Twitter.

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2014/06/tulsa-chipotle-kicks-anti-gunners-moms-demand-action-rude-behavior/#qIImqx2lFmgByExk.99
Sometimes when shady plans backfire, they backfire... (show quote)


Back in the day, I kept a rifle ready to go at all times in the back window if my truck. When I go deer hunting its ready to go less bullets, nobody seems to mind where I live. I have had little queer punks in little Hondas give me the finger and then act like they are shooting me with a finger pistol. Just like on TV! It is so grand to live in California where little dork gang bangers a running around with their drawers falling off and packin pistols somewhere in there.
I guess what I'm saying is I hope the rest of the states don't go as california has!

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Jun 2, 2014 02:32:22   #
Snoopy
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Kevyn, I have to ask. Do you & Brian have a "thing" going? It sounds as if you could be at least fraternal twins sometimes. Just curious.


Dear Dennis

Brian and Kevyn are Axxhole buddies, if you get my drift.

Snoopy

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Jun 2, 2014 06:44:38   #
Kevyn
 
dennisimoto wrote:
Kevyn, I have to ask. Do you & Brian have a "thing" going? It sounds as if you could be at least fraternal twins sometimes. Just curious.


I have never met or even exchanged emails or a message with Mr. Devon

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