Donald - Let's Get Something Straight
Oct 9, 2020 21:01:52 #
son of witless wrote:
I do my own research. I also back up my big mouth. You guys should try that one time.
Oct 9, 2020 21:10:52 #
debeda wrote:
So Obama's executive orders, like DACA, also mean nothing unless I choose to go along with them? Good to know 
That depends on whether you work for the agency that the executive order is applied to. (DACA is applied to ICE).
Just out of curiosity, if you "go along" what do you think DACA is actually going to prohibit you from doing?
Oct 9, 2020 21:40:19 #
straightUp wrote:
That depends on whether you work for the agency that the executive order is applied to. (DACA is applied to ICE).
Just out of curiosity, if you "go along" what do you think DACA is actually going to prohibit you from doing?
Just out of curiosity, if you "go along" what do you think DACA is actually going to prohibit you from doing?
I do not have to recognize illegal aliens as having civil rights in America, nor do I have to pay taxes to contribute to their food, housing and medical care here. And in Chicago, now that illegals have the right to Medicare, I no longer have to pay city or county sales tax to contribute to that.
Oct 9, 2020 21:51:45 #
PeterS wrote:
The problem with the constitution Seth is that the... (show quote)
Well put.
PeterS wrote:
Speaking of congressional republicans we have Mitch McConnell who interprets the rules of the senate one way for one judge and then another way for another judge. That's why when you conservatives say you want a constitutionalist for a judge I just have to laugh because you no more want someone who adheres to the constitution than you do that fly that adhered to Pense's head.
Speaking of congressional republicans we have Mitch McConnell who interprets the rules of the senate one way for one judge and then another way for another judge. That's why when you conservatives say you want a constitutionalist for a judge I just have to laugh because you no more want someone who adheres to the constitution than you do that fly that adhered to Pense's head.
Yeah, I'm not sure how they think we can't see that.
PeterS wrote:
br You conservatives have no ethic's Seth so the ... (show quote)
I don't know if that matters much to Trump supporters. Their position on the EC is a testament to their disregard for the will of the people. Trump and his allies in Congress are without a doubt trying to take power away from The People and his supporters know this but they are also so worked up over Godless, baby-killing, communists that they are willing to submit the Republic to righteous tyranny.
Oct 9, 2020 21:56:28 #
debeda wrote:
I do not have to recognize illegal aliens as having civil rights in America nor do I have to pay taxes to contribute to their food, housing and medical care here. And in Chicago, now that illegals have the right to Medicare, I no longer have to pay city or county sales tax to contribute to that.
OK... a bit delusional on the details but your prejudice is pretty clear... In any case, DACA has nothing to do with any of that. Maybe you shouldn't use DACA as an example until you know what it actually is.
Oct 9, 2020 22:13:31 #
straightUp wrote:
OK... a bit delusional on the details but your prejudice is pretty clear... In any case, DACA has nothing to do with any of that. Maybe you shouldn't use DACA as an example until you know what it actually is.
Deferred action for children. Got it. Do YOU know how much money goes to illegals? Daily, monthly, yearly? As far as DACA goes, it allowed these people to apply for citizenship. If they didn't, it's on them.
Its HILARIOUS that YOU see MY bias🤣🤣🤣
Oct 9, 2020 22:15:35 #
PeterS wrote:
"Millions of Native Americans and Hundreds of thousands of blacks"?120 years? You do understand that China hasn't bee... (show quote)
Trump "embraced his fellow authoritarians in Putin, Kim, Erdogan, and MBS of Saudi Arabia"?
Me, build my world out of fallacies?
You have the gift of hyperbole, I'll give you that.
The logical fallacy of hyperbole occurs when a claim is made with extreme exaggeration.
How do you test right and wrong? Apply the Peter Principle?
Do you know what Tribalism is? 1200+ Indian tribes on the continent when Europeans arrived. They weren't all pipe smoking pals.
20th Century Democide: Death by government.
Oct 9, 2020 22:21:09 #
Seth wrote:
Except that... In accordance with the will of the founders and in the spirit of American core beliefs, Trump's picks for the federal bench and SCOTUS are strict Constitutionalists. They are who he is supposed to appoint to uphold the Constitution.
Being a Constitutionalist doesn't mean anything. The U.S.Constitution is a simple and relatively small body of laws that anyone can read... and interpret. The Constitutionalist view is just one of many interpretations out there.
Seth wrote:
Your ilk, on the other hand, wants to make a mockery of the Constitution, the courts and the American people by putting activists on the bench for whom the Constitution is nothing more than a list of suggestions.
Your ilk, on the other hand, wants to make a mockery of the Constitution, the courts and the American people by putting activists on the bench for whom the Constitution is nothing more than a list of suggestions.
And now you are describing your intolerance for other interpretations.
Seth wrote:
It has nothing to do with political parties, everything to do with his upholding his oath to preserve and protect the Constitution.
It has nothing to do with political parties, everything to do with his upholding his oath to preserve and protect the Constitution.
I agree this is what he SHOULD be doing.
Seth wrote:
You see, nothing your ilk represents has anything to do with patriotism, love of country or the rule of law. For your party, everything is political, and knowing that this would not be acceptable to the American people, you deflect and try to convince people that it's conservatives who represent what you yourselves do, and that it's you who represent what we do.
You see, nothing your ilk represents has anything to do with patriotism, love of country or the rule of law. For your party, everything is political, and knowing that this would not be acceptable to the American people, you deflect and try to convince people that it's conservatives who represent what you yourselves do, and that it's you who represent what we do.
Oh, the irony... Fact is, the thing Democrats find most frustrating about Trump and his allies is how they bend the rule of law. As for patriotism and all that crap, I can't speak for all Democrats because I know they can also be very patriotic, but personally, I have no room for such BS. I love my family and my friends and I have respect for all humanity. I don't get caught up in all that jingoism, which is all your pathetic patriotism is.
Great fodder for fascism though. All the fascist regimes were nationalist. It's what puts them on the right.
Seth wrote:
br It's not working, the lies and the rest of the... (show quote)
LOL - Well, let's just wait and see.
Oct 9, 2020 22:26:32 #
straightUp wrote:
I don't know if that matters much to Trump supporters. Their position on the EC is a testament to their disregard for the will of the people. Trump and his allies in Congress are without a doubt trying to take power away from The People and his supporters know this but they are also so worked up over Godless, baby-killing, communists that they are willing to submit the Republic to righteous tyranny.
The only politicians whose goal is taking power away from the American people can be found in the Democratic Party.
Oct 9, 2020 22:26:48 #
PeterS wrote:
120 years? You do understand that China hasn't bee... (show quote)
We don't like to air our own dirty laundry, it tarnishes the finish.
Oct 9, 2020 22:31:37 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
"Millions of Native Americans and Hundreds of... (show quote)
That chart was a superb example of the fallacy of hyperbole...
And tribalism doesn't factor into the ewuation... You're basically saying it's fine to genocide people if they aren't.......???? Yeah
Oct 9, 2020 22:49:51 #
debeda wrote:
I do not have to recognize illegal aliens as having civil rights in America, nor do I have to pay taxes to contribute to their food, housing and medical care here. And in Chicago, now that illegals have the right to Medicare, I no longer have to pay city or county sales tax to contribute to that.
You’ll do as you’re told now sit down and shush!
Oct 9, 2020 22:53:46 #
straightUp wrote:
A Constitutionalist interpreting the Constitution? Now there's a novel idea.Being a Constitutionalist doesn't mean anything. The U.S.Constitution is a simple and relatively small body of laws that anyone can read... and interpret. The Constitutionalist view is just one of many interpretations out there.
Many interpretations, huh? Have you studied the Federalist Papers?
And we wonder why our nation is in such a mess.
Oct 9, 2020 22:56:25 #
debeda wrote:
Deferred action for children. Got it. Do YOU know how much money goes to illegals? Daily, monthly, yearly? As far as DACA goes, it allowed these people to apply for citizenship. If they didn't, it's on them.
I am an immigrant. I came here from England with my parents when I was 2 years old. That makes me a childhood arrival. Now it so happens that my family came here legally, but I had no control over that. I was two years old, so I wasn't exactly asking my parents if this sh8t is legal.
As it turns out by the time the government started putting pressure on deportations during the last Bush Administration I have already been here for about 40 years, got married and raised two children.
I can't imagine being told that I have to leave my family and the country I grew up in to be returned to a country I don't even know, just because of a decision my parents made when I was a baby.
Some of these childhood arrivals, served our country in uniform. Some of them worked hard to give their own U.S. born children a good education, making them viable contributors to society.
Do you ever think about these things?
debeda wrote:
Its HILARIOUS that YOU see MY bias🤣🤣🤣
Its HILARIOUS that YOU see MY bias🤣🤣🤣
Okaay... Well, you did put it out there. It's easy to see. 'Not sure what makes that funny. But it's always good to laugh, right?
Oct 9, 2020 22:56:32 #
Milosia2 wrote:
You’ll do as you’re told now sit down and shush!
Good luck with that, Miserable 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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