ImLogicallyRight wrote:
"Triumph with Trump"
I sort of agree with you in principal. I thought the same thing about obama 11 years ago. He was supposed to work for me, but he immediately started out to fundamentally change the country I love towards some sort of racist society and socialist utopia. Not America. Now, I also don't like President rump personally, but he is at least trying to set things back to a Constitutional Republic of free Capitalists and I'm all for that.
"Triumph with Trump"
Logically Right
"Triumph with Trump" br I sort of agree ... (
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I'm glad you can see my point and yes, it would apply to Obama also. I just didn't see him or his supporters gravitating to the idea that he was some kind of supreme leader to pledge allegiance to.
As for Obama fundamentally changing the country...
I believe his contribution toward the racist society we see today was simply being born half black. I was living in South Carolina when Obama was elected the first time and I remember the reaction among the people there and thought - where did all this racism come from? I think most Americans know it wasn't Obama's words or actions that created the racial rift, it was the people who have been racist all along and got all worked up when a black man stepped into the Oval Office.
As for the socialist utopia. That's typical right-wing drama. Regarding economic policy, Obama was far closer to Reagan that even Sanders. Obamacare, for instance is a market driven system, not a socialist one, with the exception being the public option.
I will concede that in general, Democrats are more socialist-friendly. And certainly the call for socialism is on the rise as is always the case when Americans start losing out to the pyramid scheme that capitalism becomes if not sufficiently managed.
But I am finding that most Trump supporters have no clue what socialism is, other than something their thought leaders tell them to avoid at all costs. I know the common cud is that somehow socialism is linked to Stalinism, but it's really not.
What I want (and I think I speak for a LOT of Democrats) is a hybrid system like what we see in Germany, where the market is open for all goods and services but the government should be allowed to provide socialist options (such as the public option) for human critical services that offer little to no profit.
...and when I say "socialism", I am not referring to communism or any of its implementations ie,.. Stalinism, Leninism, Maoism or even the Israeli Kibbutz system. Nor am I referring to right-wing socialism, otherwise called nationalist socialism (Nazism).
I am referring to Democratic Socialism.