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Jul 9, 2013 12:03:29   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
Ghost wrote:
This whole birth certificate thing is about as ungainly as it is distasteful like the truther conspiracy only I find it more vexing. I will tell you like the other Alex Jonesy-Donald Trump mutant combos you're fighting in an up-hill battle straight up Mt.-f**cking Everest.

Good luck on your crusade, you won't get many people aboard with this save for said conspiracy folks. He is a bastard sired by a Kansas whore and by some Kenyan version of glorified trailer trash. Let's leave it at that.
This whole birth certificate thing is about as ung... (show quote)




Obama is not the greatest danger to America. The greatest dangere to America is the abject stupidity of an electorate that allows such an evil creature to infest the White House.

Some of that abjectly stupid electorate post here.

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Jul 9, 2013 12:07:10   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
DALE wrote:
Aren't you guys tired of beating a dead horse , one if the birth certificate was not legitimate then Hillary would have beat him to death with it and with all of the scrutiny it has had one wonders where you people get your information and how willing you are to believe the lies being told to you , which seriously brings in doubt your own mental abilities


Well, by damn, if Hillary didn't use that fake to beat him to death is there a chance that some kind of threat against her husband and daughter could have been used? I ask this because I know what kind of things the Chicago bunch are willing to do to stay in power.

You are one of the many, I guess you outnumber those who don't accept that thing, who will accept something that did not come from the vault in Hawaii where it is stored not to be seen. Have you ever wondered how that copy came about long after people found that his original was locked in that vault? It is time for people to give some thought to the fact that if it was locked away not even the Governor of Hawaii could look at it. That is right isn't it?

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Jul 9, 2013 12:18:40   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Phil wrote:
The lack of knowledge about control in the U.S. govt., and the
MSM is what prevents the truth of the birth issue from coming to light to be investigated. Our invisible govt. and the MSM controlled by the international globalist bankers will not allow the
issue to be brought forth. The records / evidence sealed to prevent being exposed. The same is true with " Sheriff Joe's "
investigations results. Obama is a fraud, as is his presented birth certificate. It is a lie, along with all the others, and the failed
" promises " made.
It has nothing to do with politics since both " parties " are controlled at the top by the bankers as well.
The lack of knowledge about control in the U.S. go... (show quote)


We mostly agree. I have a post coming out on this in a week or so, hopefully. My time is limited, it is taking longer than I thought to put it together.

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Jul 9, 2013 12:20:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
hprinze wrote:
Obama is not the greatest danger to America. The greatest dangere to America is the abject stupidity of an electorate that allows such an evil creature to infest the White House.

Some of that abjectly stupid electorate post here.


No arguement here.

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Jul 9, 2013 12:21:59   #
hprinze Loc: Central Florida
 
bahmer wrote:
The birth certificate is very minor in my eyes but the important issue is the natural born citizen clause in the constitution. This clause requires that both mommy and daddy have to be U.S, citizens for him to be legally qualified to be president and also that he was born in America and not Kenya. The other fact is that he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro which would have made him Indonesian not American. Also with his records sealed no one has been able to ascertain as to how he went to school? Did he himself list himself as a foreign exchange student and what did his passport say was his nationality? All of these questions should have been answered to the public's satisfaction
and the birth certificate that he has trotted out is obviously forged per the cold case forensic team.
The birth certificate is very minor in my eyes but... (show quote)






You are absolutely correct that the natural born citizen clause of thye constitution is the important factor. The constitution does not define natural born citizen, nor does it define the other words used.

Natural born citizen is defined by the Supreme Court in 1875 an Obama does not qualify.

http://theghostfighters.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/natural-born-citizen-for-dummies/


Over 100 lawsuits have been filed seekng to get an official ruling that Obama is or is not eligible to occupy the White House. All these cases have been dismissed for one reason or another WITHOUT A RULING THAT OBAMA IS OR IS NOT ELIGIBLE.

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has said that the court is evading the issue.


The powers behind Obama have thorouhly cowed the U. S. government, bith legislative and judicial branches.

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Jul 9, 2013 12:23:40   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Up to now this thread is a really good one in which some new or relatively new people are writing. Only one of those who think that we should not try to vet people after the fact has stepped in and that tells me something.

Folks, do you not realize that the easiest way for the House members to get around impeachment of Obama is that they know the Senate would never throw him out, at least the one we have now.

Impeachment is nothing but accusation and if they impeached enough of Obama's people who deserve it I think that more people would come to understand what is going on. How about impeaching Holder and Lerner? Would that start the ball rolling toward getting to the top man? Once enough accusations of crime have been put out more and more people will begin to look at what is going on.

Ok, how do those $175,000 a year Representatives get the message about impeachment? Their constituents need to tell them that they will vote for somebody's dog for the job if they don't get off their butts. I firmly believe that if enough people would do their jobs as voters those elected officials would begin to see the handwriting on the wall. Lets all start enlisting all our friends and relatives to put some pressure on their Representatives. It just might work.

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Jul 9, 2013 12:40:20   #
Jimmy Loc: Florida
 
George Washington was born in a British colony of British Citizens as were some of the later presidents. What retroactive action should be taken against them?

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Jul 9, 2013 14:39:02   #
Mach1Duck Loc: Arizona
 
Congress can start bimpeachment; however then it moves to the Senate, no way the Senate will act on it. Initiating an Independent Investigation will take two years to wrap up in the mean time any discoveries will not be disclosed. This is why the Congressional committies are investigating Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Lybia, and fraps in the IRS, NSA, EPA, DHS. Why do you think Obama wanted Susan Rice as Secretary of State...so that she could not testify.
If we outed Obama, we would have Biden, and to paraphrase Osama bin Laden in his statemet to the terrorist, Do not target Biden, he is so out of touch that he would put U.S. in chaos.
This does not mean Obama is going to skate free...or any of his appointies, His record speaks for itself and the ax will fall.

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Jul 9, 2013 14:39:56   #
Mach1Duck Loc: Arizona
 
Congress can start impeachment; however then it moves to the Senate, no way the Senate will act on it. Initiating an Independent Investigation will take two years to wrap up in the mean time any discoveries will not be disclosed. This is why the Congressional committies are investigating Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Lybia, and fraps in the IRS, NSA, EPA, DHS. Why do you think Obama wanted Susan Rice as Secretary of State...so that she could not testify.
If we outed Obama, we would have Biden, and to paraphrase Osama bin Laden in his statemet to the terrorist, Do not target Biden, he is so out of touch that he would put U.S. in chaos.
This does not mean Obama is going to skate free...or any of his appointies, His record speaks for itself and the ax will fall.

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Jul 9, 2013 14:43:30   #
ronberti
 
I'd like to ask a "generic" question. Can we all agree that, IF this document is a fake, that there's some serious questions that would need to be asked of the people around Mr. Obama?

Is this NOT less than "a matter of opinion"? Is this not a demonstrable or falsifiable hypothesis (that it MUST be a fake)? Would a forensic review in the mainstream press not avail the president to avoid a cloud over his head?

The most open-minded forensic work to date seems to argue strongly for the "fake" hypothesis. Let's get it out in the mainstream, where other forensics people can get a look at it. If we're wrong, we'll go down in flames, right in front of y'all. But I don't think so.

Ron

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Jul 9, 2013 14:50:25   #
bahmer
 
Mach1Duck wrote:
Congress can start bimpeachment; however then it moves to the Senate, no way the Senate will act on it. Initiating an Independent Investigation will take two years to wrap up in the mean time any discoveries will not be disclosed. This is why the Congressional committies are investigating Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Lybia, and fraps in the IRS, NSA, EPA, DHS. Why do you think Obama wanted Susan Rice as Secretary of State...so that she could not testify.
If we outed Obama, we would have Biden, and to paraphrase Osama bin Laden in his statemet to the terrorist, Do not target Biden, he is so out of touch that he would put U.S. in chaos.
This does not mean Obama is going to skate free...or any of his appointies, His record speaks for itself and the ax will fall.
Congress can start bimpeachment; however then it m... (show quote)


I am not sure about this but if OIllegal is proved to be illegal which he is then that would void the ticket since they ran together in the election. I don't really know how it would go from there. Maybe it would then be awarded to Romney/Ryan but I'm not sure.

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Jul 9, 2013 14:51:49   #
bahmer
 
Jimmy wrote:
George Washington was born in a British colony of British Citizens as were some of the later presidents. What retroactive action should be taken against them?


Please read the constitution before making stupid comments.

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Jul 9, 2013 14:57:11   #
ronberti
 
Oh, what a clever observation! By the same lights, Jesus wasn't a "Christian"......

Nothing needs to be done retroactively, all those guys are long dead. Are you arguing that we have no right, as a sovereign country, to decide who gets to come here? A country IS borders and every other country in the world guards theirs jealously. Why would we be any different, especially with a cohort of low-value third world people, all of whom share a common language. No problem assimilating those folks, eh?

This isn't about being "nice". It's about managing a process that America already does more than any other country on the face of the planet.

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Jul 9, 2013 15:21:04   #
Boblink57
 
Isn't there enough data now to impeach Obama with Fast & Furious, Benghazi, Telephone Taps AP, IRS, and NSA stuff to put him in the box? We all know he has done nothing to clean up the mess, has not fired anyone, nor taken any action at all. He is in over his head. All he is capable of doing is giving snow-job speaches! Let's get rid of him by impeachment!

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Jul 9, 2013 16:01:27   #
bahmer
 
hprinze wrote:
You are absolutely correct that the natural born citizen clause of thye constitution is the important factor. The constitution does not define natural born citizen, nor does it define the other words used.

Natural born citizen is defined by the Supreme Court in 1875 an Obama does not qualify.

http://theghostfighters.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/natural-born-citizen-for-dummies/


Over 100 lawsuits have been filed seekng to get an official ruling that Obama is or is not eligible to occupy the White House. All these cases have been dismissed for one reason or another WITHOUT A RULING THAT OBAMA IS OR IS NOT ELIGIBLE.

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has said that the court is evading the issue.


The powers behind Obama have thorouhly cowed the U. S. government, bith legislative and judicial branches.
You are absolutely correct that the natural born c... (show quote)


Don't forget the lame stream media as they have done their fair share protecting this slimeball. Even if we prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt the lame stream media will always shill for OIllegal. Maybe if if we actually started either the impeachment process or the investigation into his past before congress maybe then we might get some lame stream media attention even if it were to attack us. Just maybe the message would get out but after seeing everything else and the way it has been handled I highly doubt we will get the exposure that say a republican president would get if this were the case. Then the lame stream media would be having a feeding frenzy and you would have to beat them off with a stick.

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