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Apr 30, 2020 17:45:50   #
Larry Joe
 
mgershowitz wrote:
Again, those who fail to pay proper attention to history are doomed to repeat past mistakes: applying our last 100-yrs of scientific learning and experience will clearly help prevent another 17-50 million deaths


Thank the Lord for scientist! Seriously!
Larry

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Apr 30, 2020 17:55:51   #
peg w
 
Corona virus kills anout 5 percent of its victims. There is also damage to the survivors. Since about 20 percent of Covid19 victims need some medical intervention, I suspect perminent damage to lungs, heart , kidneys and liver may be high. I have not seen any stats on perminent damage yet. But this is not the sniffles for a sizable part of its victims. This is not the flu.

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Apr 30, 2020 18:15:29   #
mgershowitz
 
Ultimate intelligence? Why the hyperbole...
G-d gave man a brain to think with; what better tool do we have? History also clearly teaches us faith alone won’t work or why would a million innocent children been doomed to a horrible death in the Nazi ovens during WWII?

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Apr 30, 2020 18:34:50   #
Mikeyavelli
 
bestpal38 wrote:
In my lifetime, we have never shut down the country cause people get sick. I'm sorry people have died. I'm sorry people get sick. But why now??


Fowtchy and Birx are the only effective things against the Trump economy. They know exactly what they are doing.

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Apr 30, 2020 19:01:23   #
mgershowitz
 
First time since 1918 shutting down everything was necessary (I assume you’re not 100+ years old) and thank the good lord for Fauci and Birx; hopefully these ultra rightwing conspiracy theorist nut-jobs won’t successfully pressure Trump into firing them (which would unleash holy hell)

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Apr 30, 2020 19:34:35   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
saltwind78 wrote:
A few weeks ago, a poster said we ought to go back to work and not worry about the sniffles.We now have had over a million cases of covid19, with over sixty thousand American deaths. Here in the South, stores are reopening as are all kinds of other businesses and crowded beaches. Dr. Fauci and other pandemic medical specialists are warning us in no uncertain terms that this will cause both corona cases and deaths to increase, and cause a second surge. I urge all people to stay home, if you have to go out, maintain social distancing and wear protective gear. STAY WELL.
A few weeks ago, a poster said we ought to go back... (show quote)


Good post. Unfortunately, and quite simply, MANY people are just plain stupid. Science, schmience. More unfortunately, in about six weeks or so, these downplayers of this disease are going to finally realize how wrong they were. Most unfortunately though, is that their stupidity is going to cost many of us who are wise and responsible our lives.

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Apr 30, 2020 19:40:25   #
Rose42
 
GoCubs wrote:
Good post. Unfortunately, and quite simply, MANY people are just plain stupid. Science, schmience. More unfortunately, in about six weeks or so, these downplayers of this disease are going to finally realize how wrong they were. Most unfortunately though, is that their stupidity is going to cost many of us who are wise and responsible our lives.


Some are stupid indeed. But others can watch and read the news and see the contradictions and what they're NOT reporting - the omissions and who they silence.

You and many others make the mistake of thinking all who question are downplaying the disease. We aren't. And we're not stupid but aware.

There is no wisdom in blindly believing the government. None. This is the same government that has experimented on its own people in the past. Why on earth would you put so much blind trust in them?

People need to THINK.

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Apr 30, 2020 19:44:12   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Naw, it was all a hoax, all those dead people are really still alive and the photos of folks on ventilators was photo shopped. When you get tired of something - just pretend it doesn't exist and everything will be ok.


Lol. Exactly. Hard to spend money when you're dead.

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Apr 30, 2020 19:49:56   #
truthiness
 
Rose42 wrote:
Some are stupid indeed. But others can watch and read the news and see the contradictions and what they're NOT reporting - the omissions and who they silence.

You and many others make the mistake of thinking all who question are downplaying the disease. We aren't. And we're not stupid but aware.

There is no wisdom in blindly believing the government. None. This is the same government that has experimented on its own people in the past. Why on earth would you put so much blind trust in them?

People need to THINK.
Some are stupid indeed. But others can watch and ... (show quote)


"There is no wisdom in blindly believing the government." PERFECT. And therefore there is no wisdom in blindly believing Trump.

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Apr 30, 2020 20:05:25   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
Rose42 wrote:
Some are stupid indeed. But others can watch and read the news and see the contradictions and what they're NOT reporting - the omissions and who they silence.

You and many others make the mistake of thinking all who question are downplaying the disease. We aren't. And we're not stupid but aware.

There is no wisdom in blindly believing the government. None. This is the same government that has experimented on its own people in the past. Why on earth would you put so much blind trust in them?

People need to THINK.
Some are stupid indeed. But others can watch and ... (show quote)


Oh, I certainly do not (and never have) trust my government. Especially today since our current president has spewed far more lies than all other presidents before him.

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Apr 30, 2020 20:28:49   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
mgershowitz wrote:
Ultimate intelligence? Why the hyperbole...
G-d gave man a brain to think with; what better tool do we have? History also clearly teaches us faith alone won’t work or why would a million innocent children been doomed to a horrible death in the Nazi ovens during WWII?


There’s another person on this forum that you should meet! I think you both agree politically and in religion!
His name is Rumitoid.

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Apr 30, 2020 20:34:31   #
Navigator
 
saltwind78 wrote:
A few weeks ago, a poster said we ought to go back to work and not worry about the sniffles.We now have had over a million cases of covid19, with over sixty thousand American deaths. Here in the South, stores are reopening as are all kinds of other businesses and crowded beaches. Dr. Fauci and other pandemic medical specialists are warning us in no uncertain terms that this will cause both corona cases and deaths to increase, and cause a second surge. I urge all people to stay home, if you have to go out, maintain social distancing and wear protective gear. STAY WELL.
A few weeks ago, a poster said we ought to go back... (show quote)


Stop perpetuating the media panic. If you are under the age of 55 you have less of a chance of death from Covid than from the flu, under 35 the common cold is more deadly. Since most people in the work force are younger than 55 they can go back to work, stay away from old people until they get and recover from the Covid and the retired people stay home. There will be a lot more asymptomatic and mild to moderate cases of Covid but very few increased deaths.

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Apr 30, 2020 20:41:40   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
GoCubs wrote:
Good post. Unfortunately, and quite simply, MANY people are just plain stupid. Science, schmience. More unfortunately, in about six weeks or so, these downplayers of this disease are going to finally realize how wrong they were. Most unfortunately though, is that their stupidity is going to cost many of us who are wise and responsible our lives.


If you are wise and responsible like you claim to be, no one will force you to go out without protection and be responsible for your death! If this country continues to stay shut down for another six weeks, the virus will be the lesser of many problems!

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Apr 30, 2020 21:10:58   #
Mikeyavelli
 
mgershowitz wrote:
First time since 1918 shutting down everything was necessary (I assume you’re not 100+ years old) and thank the good lord for Fauci and Birx; hopefully these ultra rightwing conspiracy theorist nut-jobs won’t successfully pressure Trump into firing them (which would unleash holy hell)


Fowtchy and Birx are the only political attempts to topple Trump's economy that have been successful.
Argal, lefty heroes.

They aren't doctors, they are assassins.

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Apr 30, 2020 21:16:59   #
Navigator
 
peg w wrote:
Corona virus kills anout 5 percent of its victims. There is also damage to the survivors. Since about 20 percent of Covid19 victims need some medical intervention, I suspect perminent damage to lungs, heart , kidneys and liver may be high. I have not seen any stats on perminent damage yet. But this is not the sniffles for a sizable part of its victims. This is not the flu.


Even with the vastly underreported number of cases the 5% figure does not apply until you are over 75 and tops out at about 15% if you are over 90. Under 15 it is 0.01%, under 35 it is 0.1%, the same as the flu. Even between 35 and 55 the death rate is about 0.8%. You really need to get away from the media hysteria.

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