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From Russia with Hate: How right-wingers are helping Putin.
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Apr 25, 2014 21:51:18   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Blacksheep wrote:
To you queers, everyone who isn't queer and doesn't want to have you molesting our kids and prancing naked in public parades is a homophobe.

HOMOPHOPBIA: Fear of homosexuals/homosexuality. Do I sound like queers frighten me? They disgust me. There's a difference.

Russia is sounding more and more like the last bastion of morality left in the world. I know it isn't but when you look at the way our leaders are screwing up, all weak and corrupt, and then look at the strength of character being displayed by the Russians, it's hard not to see them in a more favorable light, and I sure as hell never thought I'd ever be saying that.
To you queers, everyone who isn't queer and doesn'... (show quote)

there are bright spots in dark spots all over this world.

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Apr 25, 2014 21:58:20   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Jagdtiger 128 wrote:
Putin is a political genius. He is ruthless, efficient, and most of all cunning. And the Russian people are behind him 100%, despite being deprived of democratic representation and free speech. One of the reasons for this, I believe, is Mr. Putin's post-soviet Russian ideological realignment from the extreme left, to the extreme right. Instead of the eternal revolution and egalitarian equality, Mr. Putin has replaced these soviet era ideals, with those that can be found within our nation's own bible belt.

Putin's recent trumpeting of anti-LGBTQ laws is one of many of his efforts to create a new conservative, "morally righteous" Russian Empire. These homophobic sentiments are shared with many citizens of the United States, despite our recent progress on the issue. Support is even more fervent among African nations who have also passed anti-gay laws.

This, along with his extreme privatization measures, goes to show that when Reagan brought the wall down, he may have created an even worse enemy than we had before.
Putin is a political genius. He is ruthless, effic... (show quote)


listen jagermeister, itz all about behavioral science...homosexuality (especially men) iz as bizzare a behavior any species could conjure up and just like most of the world, much of this country still scratches their head to try to figure out why it exists. right-wingers are on the money on this.

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Apr 26, 2014 17:01:56   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Some how you missed the point I was trying yo make.

It is the rich & powerful that control the government.

That they the powerful wish the government to be small & let them be free to use the market with complete freedom from any Obligations to see that The Rights of the people to Seek Life,Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness are protected.


Floyd - what you are missing is the point I tried to make - the rich and powerful use the government to control things - that's why they spend so much buying the politicians and officials - if there were less government there would be less power and control for politicians to sell

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Apr 27, 2014 10:32:01   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dave wrote:
Floyd - what you are missing is the point I tried to make - the rich and powerful use the government to control things - that's why they spend so much buying the politicians and officials - if there were less government there would be less power and control for politicians to sell


Please read the your post again with the thought in mind that some one else had posted what you said. I think you are much better than to write something like that.

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Apr 27, 2014 16:37:14   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Please read the your post again with the thought in mind that some one else had posted what you said. I think you are much better than to write something like that.


I have no idea what some one else might have said, but I've said the same thing several times - and I'll try one more time - money is politics has continued to increase as government continued to grow - when companies like Pepsi spend millions lobbying to increase food stamps a clear sign is being sent. I'm sorry if you can't read signs like that, but the failure of people to see this cancerous synergy between government growth and influence buying is the single biggest danger to our national well being.

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Apr 28, 2014 00:21:28   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dave wrote:
I have no idea what some one else might have said, but I've said the same thing several times - and I'll try one more time - money is politics has continued to increase as government continued to grow - when companies like Pepsi spend millions lobbying to increase food stamps a clear sign is being sent. I'm sorry if you can't read signs like that, but the failure of people to see this cancerous synergy between government growth and influence buying is the single biggest danger to our national well being.
I have no idea what some one else might have said,... (show quote)


A smaller government would only make it cheaper to buy & control.

The way you stated it made it seem that with less government there would be less control over it.

When if fact there would be greater over all control for less money.

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Apr 28, 2014 09:10:50   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
A smaller government would only make it cheaper to buy & control.

The way you stated it made it seem that with less government there would be less control over it.

When if fact there would be greater over all control for less money.


Wow - convoluted logic - or perhaps you want to suggest that as government has grown political contributions have declined - or better yet, power doesn't corrupt.

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Apr 28, 2014 09:43:56   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dave wrote:
Wow - convoluted logic - or perhaps you want to suggest that as government has grown political contributions have declined - or better yet, power doesn't corrupt.


You sure can twist things around. We both see this as pretty much the same.

You see to enjoy disagreeing more that agreeing on any thing.

What I said was smaller government could be bought with less money. But I see that my view is off because the number of people they have to buy is still the same.

Enough off the 535 in congress & 1 President. Plus who knows how much they need to spend to on others who are running be sure they buy enough people

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Apr 28, 2014 10:16:52   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
You sure can twist things around. We both see this as pretty much the same.

You see to enjoy disagreeing more that agreeing on any thing.

What I said was smaller government could be bought with less money. But I see that my view is off because the number of people they have to buy is still the same.

Enough off the 535 in congress & 1 President. Plus who knows how much they need to spend to on others who are running be sure they buy enough people


Yes, but what you keep seeming to miss, unless I misunderstand what you say, is that the government expanded power makes it more lucrative to buy influence - the problem of money corrupting the system expands as they reach of government expands.

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Apr 28, 2014 11:08:03   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dave wrote:
Yes, but what you keep seeming to miss, unless I misunderstand what you say, is that the government expanded power makes it more lucrative to buy influence - the problem of money corrupting the system expands as they reach of government expands.


We are in agreement that money is being used to corrupt government. But I say big or small corruption will still be there. The issue of the size of government is in & of it's self an issue in it's self.

Since I first crossed paths with you I have seen you as a worthy person to exchange ideas with.

There is something in the way we each think that needs to be acted on.

But I truly feel that much good can come from what each of us is trying to say.

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Apr 28, 2014 11:59:19   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We are in agreement that money is being used to corrupt government. But I say big or small corruption will still be there. The issue of the size of government is in & of it's self an issue in it's self.

Since I first crossed paths with you I have seen you as a worthy person to exchange ideas with.

There is something in the way we each think that needs to be acted on.

But I truly feel that much good can come from what each of us is trying to say.


Thanks - but to belabor the point once again - I'm concerned that more and more people seem to vote for a living and by that I don't mean welfare people - but lawyers who get more business every time a new law or regulation is put on the books, accountants every time a new line is added to the tax code, lobbyists each time a special interest group is identified, many at the large corporations who seek some form of rent seeking advantage - and the growing bureaucrats whose numbers increase as well as pure power with each and every government "solution" to a problem.

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Apr 28, 2014 18:55:55   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dave wrote:
Thanks - but to belabor the point once again - I'm concerned that more and more people seem to vote for a living and by that I don't mean welfare people - but lawyers who get more business every time a new law or regulation is put on the books, accountants every time a new line is added to the tax code, lobbyists each time a special interest group is identified, many at the large corporations who seek some form of rent seeking advantage - and the growing bureaucrats whose numbers increase as well as pure power with each and every government "solution" to a problem.
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You bring up a good point.

Each of has to find our little corner to live in. It is how & what we do in our inter actions with others that can make our little corners more livable for each other & the people who's life's we touch.

For no matter what any may say it is in our day to day life's that we find the comfort & security we need.

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