Barracuda2020 wrote:
Hey straight, many things to respond to, I will tackle one at a time. in response to this comment...
your quote{Is Russia more vulnerable than we are? Vulnerable to what exactly? I don't understand the reference. I understand your concern about needing more rules if we disperse. But I don't think it's a given. We maybe one nation but we have a deep hierarchy of laws and jurisdictions that more than make up for it.
In fact, it's interesting that you bring Russia up on the heels of your statement about "too many rules"... I can remember a conversation I had with a database architect who studied law in Russia and he said he was astounded by the sheer volume of laws that exist in America.}
Allow me to clarify, my point wasn't that Russia was the vulnerable one, but rather the smaller countries who have tried to break free from Russia, only to have them later return to force themselves onto them. I could foresee this happening. Let us say for argument sake, the(a) red region objective was to become all-powerful, and smaller blue regions, for lack of a better description, were to be vulnerable against this military state.
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Well, you bring up a valid concern and I've tried to come up with a good answer, but there really isn't one. There's no guarantee that this scenario won't happen. That being said, there's a couple of things I'd like to point out.
I can't seem to accept "bad-ass" attitude as a motive for war. It might be a motive for fantasising about it but it seems to me that every war I've ever studied has been motivated by something more calculated.
In the case of the former soviet republics, all the conflicts I can think of were started by regional ethnic groups vying for autonomy (usually from each other), with Russia playing the "police" role in the interest of stability, especially in the Caspian region where Moscow has an interest in the oil and gas reserves there.
It's possible we might see a similar effect here if we divided, but one big difference is that we don't have the same
kind of ethnic divides they have over there. Over there you have strong links between ethnic groups and the land itself, 'not so much the case here because we pretty much killed all the natives. All the ethnic groups here today (including white people) immigrated from other places and spread throughout.
If anything, the Indian nations might resurrect but I think that would be more of a problem for the red republics than the blue republics (if that's actually a problem). I'm only saying this because I imagine the red republics will cover more land while the blue republics will have most of the power.
Other than that I would say it would be more likely that the blue republics be more aggressive by virtue of that they will be the financial powerhouses and from the western perspective, the financial powerhouses have always been the key sponsors of war.
Finally, in the unexpected event that a red republic try to attack a blue republic, I have this to fall back on...
As a "blue person" I would rather make the red people fight for their designs on my family than to submit to a system that just gives it to them (which is what we have now). There is no reason why Trump should be in office given fair representation. He is in office because red states get more representation per voter than blue states get, period. This is the same reason why he wasn't impeached.
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I pointed out Russia for their appetite to consume. For example, let's look at Turkey, Syria, Ukraine Georgia, Crimea, Bosnia, now they are getting bold enough to attack us by undermining the US in their covert hostile takeover. How far is enough for them, they are like a Pacman on the earth.
We can't ignore this, especially if a country "like them" existed as our neighbors, just saying something to consider.
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Well, it's not something to be ignored, I'll go that far. I do think however that we get confused between "us" and the "empire" we are forced to support. All those places you mention are dealing with conflicts driven by a desire for self-determination and to some cultural intolerance. Fact is... no one has actually made any attempt to invade or conquer our country... ever! I think this is why we Americans are so hung-ho about war. We have no clue what it's like to have our homes and our families blasted to hell by foreign forces.
Barracuda2020 wrote:
I am all for the positiveness of living in a country you describe, but there will always be issues and challenges when herbivores live beside omnivores or worse carnivores.
When I was referring to too many rules, and yes to your friends comment on our laws, now can you imagine that divided by 5?LOL It's getting harder and harder to travel to even neighboring countries, I'm ready for them to ask for a colonoscopy to board a plane...lol.
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- Is that included in the price of the ticket" 'cause I like to travel AND I'm overdue for a colonoscopy.