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From Russia with Hate: How right-wingers are helping Putin.
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Apr 24, 2014 19:23:42   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Blacksheep wrote:
That's why they call them "queer". Because they are. It's not just a term for senile old people, most homosexuals are lost in the ether as well. You notice he blithered the old "homophobe" line at me. I swear, it's as popular with the Lib crowd as "racist" is. It's supposed to make us back up and accept the bullshit. It worked for awhile but it's so old and hackneyed now that it gets laughed at. We're tired of it.


Racist.

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Apr 24, 2014 19:27:51   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Loki wrote:
Racist.


:mrgreen:

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Apr 24, 2014 19:50:35   #
Jagdtiger 128
 
Blacksheep wrote:
That's why they call them "queer". Because they are. It's not just a term for senile old people, most homosexuals are lost in the ether as well. You notice he blithered the old "homophobe" line at me. I swear, it's as popular with the Lib crowd as "racist" is. It's supposed to make us back up and accept the bullshit. It worked for awhile but it's so old and hackneyed now that it gets laughed at. We're tired of it.


Honestly, you're right. It didn't work on you. You beat us. You and your compatriots. YOU did it. You resisted and you persisted. We failed.

You sure have done a lot.

I mean, clearly you know what a "queer" is. You saw through all my big words, all that stupid liberal jargon. You did it.

Just because you hate gay people doesn't mean you're a homophobe! That's so obvious. Hating gays doesn't make you a homophobe, it just makes you stronger! And hating black people, well that doesn't make you racist, just a purist!

I guess I should just pack my liberal fag bags and get on out of here. Well at least with you at the helm of America, I know it'll never lose it's diverse and tolerant nature. Gee, and to think, I was worried.

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Apr 24, 2014 19:51:39   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
There's a ring of truth in what you say but you never really know how many Russians support Putin...there's no political competition and no freedom to speak out in opposition there.

The government controls everything there, is doing everything to ensure a Ukrainian Orange Revolution or Muslim Spring doesn't occur in Russia.

Jagdtiger 128 wrote:
Putin is a political genius. He is ruthless, efficient, and most of all cunning. And the Russian people are behind him 100%, despite being deprived of democratic representation and free speech. One of the reasons for this, I believe, is Mr. Putin's post-soviet Russian ideological realignment from the extreme left, to the extreme right. Instead of the eternal revolution and egalitarian equality, Mr. Putin has replaced these soviet era ideals, with those that can be found within our nation's own bible belt.

Putin's recent trumpeting of anti-LGBTQ laws is one of many of his efforts to create a new conservative, "morally righteous" Russian Empire. These homophobic sentiments are shared with many citizens of the United States, despite our recent progress on the issue. Support is even more fervent among African nations who have also passed anti-gay laws.

This, along with his extreme privatization measures, goes to show that when Reagan brought the wall down, he may have created an even worse enemy than we had before.
Putin is a political genius. He is ruthless, effic... (show quote)

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Apr 25, 2014 10:54:11   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Jagdtiger 128 wrote:
Putin is a political genius. He is ruthless, efficient, and most of all cunning. And the Russian people are behind him 100%, despite being deprived of democratic representation and free speech. One of the reasons for this, I believe, is Mr. Putin's post-soviet Russian ideological realignment from the extreme left, to the extreme right. Instead of the eternal revolution and egalitarian equality, Mr. Putin has replaced these soviet era ideals, with those that can be found within our nation's own bible belt.

Putin's recent trumpeting of anti-LGBTQ laws is one of many of his efforts to create a new conservative, "morally righteous" Russian Empire. These homophobic sentiments are shared with many citizens of the United States, despite our recent progress on the issue. Support is even more fervent among African nations who have also passed anti-gay laws.

This, along with his extreme privatization measures, goes to show that when Reagan brought the wall down, he may have created an even worse enemy than we had before.
Putin is a political genius. He is ruthless, effic... (show quote)


An interesting point.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 25, 2014 11:01:46   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Jagdtiger 128 wrote:
Putin is a political genius. He is ruthless, efficient, and most of all cunning. And the Russian people are behind him 100%, despite being deprived of democratic representation and free speech. One of the reasons for this, I believe, is Mr. Putin's post-soviet Russian ideological realignment from the extreme left, to the extreme right. Instead of the eternal revolution and egalitarian equality, Mr. Putin has replaced these soviet era ideals, with those that can be found within our nation's own bible belt.

Putin's recent trumpeting of anti-LGBTQ laws is one of many of his efforts to create a new conservative, "morally righteous" Russian Empire. These homophobic sentiments are shared with many citizens of the United States, despite our recent progress on the issue. Support is even more fervent among African nations who have also passed anti-gay laws.

This, along with his extreme privatization measures, goes to show that when Reagan brought the wall down, he may have created an even worse enemy than we had before.
Putin is a political genius. He is ruthless, effic... (show quote)


The Soviet Union had the government control everything. Putin has the government controlling everything. Conservatives try to get the government controlling less than they do in America. Somehow, fools conclude therefore that conservatives are responsible for Putin. No need to think anything through, blame everything bad on those whose ideology is beyond your ability to comprehend.

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Apr 25, 2014 11:18:19   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dave wrote:
The Soviet Union had the government control everything. Putin has the government controlling everything. Conservatives try to get the government controlling less than they do in America. Somehow, fools conclude therefore that conservatives are responsible for Putin. No need to think anything through, blame everything bad on those whose ideology is beyond your ability to comprehend.


No just control the government. Then we can control every thing. Koch Brothers creed.

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Apr 25, 2014 11:28:38   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
No just control the government. Then we can control every thing. Koch Brothers creed.


Yes, smaller government will allow control over everything in the minds of those who have no idea what in the world is going on. Established Republicans and Democrats have been expanding government for years and using that increased power to sell even more - along comes someone who wants to reverse it - the establishment goes nuts telling the minimally informed that those are the ones to fear. Amazing how that works.

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Apr 25, 2014 12:21:06   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dave wrote:
Yes, smaller government will allow control over everything in the minds of those who have no idea what in the world is going on. Established Republicans and Democrats have been expanding government for years and using that increased power to sell even more - along comes someone who wants to reverse it - the establishment goes nuts telling the minimally informed that those are the ones to fear. Amazing how that works.


The sad thing about it is that the voices for smaller government come from those that wish to have freedom in the market place to avoid obligations to see a system:

"Of The People For The People By the People."

There are those that are for replacing that with:

"Of Me For Me By Me."

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Apr 25, 2014 13:20:46   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Dave wrote:
Yes, smaller government will allow control over everything in the minds of those who have no idea what in the world is going on. Established Republicans and Democrats have been expanding government for years and using that increased power to sell even more - along comes someone who wants to reverse it - the establishment goes nuts telling the minimally informed that those are the ones to fear. Amazing how that works.


[url]http://youtu.be/VYpATrU.CoM

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Apr 25, 2014 13:49:04   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
The sad thing about it is that the voices for smaller government come from those that wish to have freedom in the market place to avoid obligations to see a system:

"Of The People For The People By the People."

There are those that are for replacing that with:

"Of Me For Me By Me."


I see the propaganda folks have succeeded with you - hard to believe anyone today thinks the government controls the rich and powerful while protecting the small guy, but many folks like you are that easily conned.

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Apr 25, 2014 15:30:04   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
Back to the subject of the Russian law. I do not want anyone weather heterosexual or homosexual discussing sex with my children. That's my job.

What would make anyone think that is ok? I just feel some things are private. What two adults do in the privacy of their bedroom is none of my concern. However, when you discuss these matters with my child or force a parade honoring your sexuality on my child, that is my concern.

I agree with Putin, Leave the children alone.

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Apr 25, 2014 15:37:55   #
Patty
 
Amen!
She Wolf wrote:
Back to the subject of the Russian law. I do not want anyone weather heterosexual or homosexual discussing sex with my children. That's my job.

What would make anyone think that is ok? I just feel some things are private. What two adults do in the privacy of their bedroom is none of my concern. However, when you discuss these matters with my child or force a parade honoring your sexuality on my child, that is my concern.

I agree with Putin, Leave the children alone.

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Apr 25, 2014 18:32:26   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Dave wrote:
Yes, smaller government will allow control over everything in the minds of those who have no idea what in the world is going on. Established Republicans and Democrats have been expanding government for years and using that increased power to sell even more - along comes someone who wants to reverse it - the establishment goes nuts telling the minimally informed that those are the ones to fear. Amazing how that works.


I've often thought that I'll bet the Koch Brothers wish to God they had as much power as the left claims they do. Of course, if they did, the left would not be allowed to exist.

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Apr 25, 2014 19:10:36   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Dave wrote:
I see the propaganda folks have succeeded with you - hard to believe anyone today thinks the government controls the rich and powerful while protecting the small guy, but many folks like you are that easily conned.


Some how you missed the point I was trying yo make.

It is the rich & powerful that control the government.

That they the powerful wish the government to be small & let them be free to use the market with complete freedom from any Obligations to see that The Rights of the people to Seek Life,Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness are protected.

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