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Mar 14, 2020 09:59:59   #
Big dog
 
American Vet wrote:
I have major concerns about 'the government' (federal/state/local) cancelling things and mandating major interruptions. This is setting a bad precedence for everyone - except those in favor of control by "Big Brother" (federal/state/local).

Your thought?


I thought our Constitution gives us the Right to Assemble.
I suppose it makes sense to destroy this Right, right along with the 2nd amendment. Takes away our ability to have a militia.

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Mar 14, 2020 11:02:11   #
Lonewolf
 
Big dog wrote:
I thought our Constitution gives us the Right to Assemble.
I suppose it makes sense to destroy this Right, right along with the 2nd amendment. Takes away our ability to have a militia.


What good is a militia there all contain government spy's

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Mar 14, 2020 12:58:01   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
By May at the latest...

Unless the fear mongering stops and people start thinking straight...

The SCOTUS in an 1866 case, (Ex Parte Milligan) set limits on Martial Law. It can only be declared when civil courts can no longer function for whatever reason, and only in the areas where the inability to function exists, and only for as long as it takes civil authority to function again.

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Mar 14, 2020 15:11:17   #
American Vet
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
The SCOTUS in an 1866 case, (Ex Parte Milligan) set limits on Martial Law. It can only be declared when civil courts can no longer function for whatever reason, and only in the areas where the inability to function exists, and only for as long as it takes civil authority to function again.


Martial law (and a declaration of a 'state of emergency') should be rarely used - and I am not sure this 'crisis' has anywhere reached that level. Of concern? - Absolutely.
But as I said - I believe this sets a bad precedent.

From what you described above, this 'crisis' does not meet that standard.

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Mar 14, 2020 16:29:59   #
peg w
 
The only thing that is going to stop Covid19 is possibly if we are lucky, a slowdown of cases when it gets warm. Otherwise, it will be a China like marital law quarantine. That will mean for all of us to stop everything for 2 weeks, mimium. Remember, the cases double every 4 days, do the math.

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Mar 14, 2020 16:34:33   #
woodguru
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
By May at the latest...

Unless the fear mongering stops and people start thinking straight...


There is a difference between fear mongering and simply looking at and accepting facts.

Trump refusing to solidly represent facts is far worse than fact based reality based reports. It was just a few days ago trump was saying we had this under control, no big thing, no worse than the flu. Looking at the grim reality of a region like Seattle that did not respond quick enough allows much of the rest of the country to change their habits and reduce the numbers of people that get infected and correspondingly die.

I talked to ignorant people a week ago that repeated the "no big thing" rhetoric, I am happy to say that they now get it, it's a shame that a president downplayed this for as long as he did to where we are seeing parts of the country running on the Italian curve versus the Tokyo/Korea curves where it has been greatly mitigated.

Italy now gets it, and has been trying to warn the US that was following their lead to wake up, telling us time is killing our older people.

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Mar 14, 2020 16:36:56   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
American Vet wrote:
I have major concerns about 'the government' (federal/state/local) cancelling things and mandating major interruptions. This is setting a bad precedence for everyone - except those in favor of control by "Big Brother" (federal/state/local).

Your thought?


That's about the time a second revolution should start. If it's just curfews then no, that's okay. Tampering with our lives and if we hear ANYTHING about FEMA lock n load.

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Mar 14, 2020 19:07:00   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Big dog wrote:
How soon do y’all think it’ll happen ? I’m gonna give it until St Patrick’s day. They’ve already canceled the parades. What’s your guess??


I think if it hits any of these tent cities Cal/Washinton/ and the residents start panicking and trying to get out and go to another state sh*t will truly hit the fan yea marshal law and guard out blocking all exits to try and contain

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Mar 15, 2020 00:56:45   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Big dog wrote:
How soon do y’all think it’ll happen ? I’m gonna give it until St Patrick’s day. They’ve already canceled the parades. What’s your guess??


Here's something we can all do right now. Call your Representatives and Senators to revamp the Patriot Act which soon will expire this upcoming week. We must end government spying on citizens under the Patriot Act's unconstitutional FISA courts and restore habeas corpus rights and court ordered search warrants under the 4th and 6th Amendments of the Constitution to all American citizens. The last 3 years of the Democrats phony charges and political spying against President Trump should never be allowed to happen again. We cannot let a crooked government destroy its citizens ever again.

www.paul.senate.gov
Dr. Rand Paul Releases Statement as Senate Adjourns with Patriot Act Powers Set to Expire

"On Thursday, I and a bipartisan group of senators refused to allow Senate leadership to ram through -- by "unanimous consent" -- an extension of certain expiring Patriot Act spying powers.

"Reauthorizing the expiring provisions would permit government to continue violating your Fourth Amendment rights on the authority of a secret court and without ensuring due process.

"After the Senate adjourned later that day, guaranteeing the provisions will expire this Sunday, March 15, I released the following statement:

"'As President Trump has repeatedly stated, we should not reauthorize these expiring surveillance powers without real reform. After all we have learned about how government has abused its authority, including spying on President Trump’s 2016 campaign, neither a clean extension nor the window dressing offered by the U.S. House, which will not stop future abuses, are acceptable.'

"'While the House tells us to trust government to police itself, I prefer instead to trust the Founders’ guidance in the Bill of Rights.'

"The Senate will debate these powers again when it returns on Monday [March 16, 2020]. No matter what ultimately happens, I will continue to stand up for the Fourth Amendment and against government's unnecessary and counterproductive invasion of Americans' privacy."

I feel another filibuster coming up.

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Mar 15, 2020 01:11:26   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
To implement martial law in this political climate would be an unmitigated disaster. Has anybody actually considered what nationwide martial law would look like?

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Mar 15, 2020 01:17:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
To implement martial law in this political climate would be an unmitigated disaster. Has anybody actually considered what nationwide martial law would look like?


It's been pretty tame over here...

Would American martial law not be better?

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Mar 15, 2020 02:55:49   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Parky60 wrote:
This popped into my brain today...

I believe that all this may very well be a test...a test to see how far they can go and we'll go along with it. Preparing us for what I don't know but I believe that it certainly ties into the end times we're in.



I'm agreeing and believing this is part of a global economic reset

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Mar 15, 2020 07:40:15   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Big dog wrote:
How soon do y’all think it’ll happen ? I’m gonna give it until St Patrick’s day. They’ve already canceled the parades. What’s your guess??

They cancelled parades because it's generally a good idea to minimize large crowds until we get a better handle of how the virus is spreading and how to control it. It's not just government, the private sector is also responding in a responsible manner. The major sports leagues for instance, shut down their events, losing millions of revenue in the process and it's not because the government told them, it's because it's the responsible thing to do.

Local governments and private businesses appear to be handling things pretty well and despite all this BS about the liberal media scaring everybody that isn't really happening. People are for the most part, calm and well informed. So there really isn't much need for martial law (as much as some people, who are bored with their lives hunger for it)

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Mar 15, 2020 09:48:15   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
To implement martial law in this political climate would be an unmitigated disaster. Has anybody actually considered what nationwide martial law would look like?


I wouldn't trust the current administration with that kind of liability. One reason for saying this is that over the last few years the experts in numerous domains have been flushed out and replaced with loyalists that are far less qualified, rendering the administration as a whole, far less capable. I think the pandemic so far is proving this to be the case.

Fortunately, the local governments and the private sector is handling this admirably and as a result the American people are calm and well-informed, so there's really no call for martial law or even to test the current administration at that level.

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Mar 15, 2020 09:50:16   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Big dog wrote:
How soon do y’all think it’ll happen ? I’m gonna give it until St Patrick’s day. They’ve already canceled the parades. What’s your guess??


Nothing in this virus scare rises to the level of a Marshall law mandate....

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