working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

They have that right. I'm pretty sure Obama people are helping a lot of candidates.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

And they're operating out of fear, that a second term will expose even more of their treachey.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Thanks for the concerns...

I am well... As is my family...

Though annoyed that Trudeau wussed out...

We are taking precautions... My wife insists... And looking forward to the end of this nonsense...


You made some good points...

But the same seemed true during the last presidency...

Voters are fickle..

straightUp Loc: California

I do agree that it's important to hear from witnesses, but at this point, I don't think there is ANYTHING they can say to change the minds of the Senate Republicans who will vote to acquit anyway. This stopped being a real trial the moment McConnell announced that the Senate will coordinate fully with the White House.

The Senate takes the role of jury in this process... when a jury says they will cooperate fully with the defendant we know it's not a real trial.

The Democrats did their part - the Republicans refused to do theirs - The End.

As for America's future, we need to understand that Trump isn't so much the problem as he is a symptom of the problem. I don't think taking him out while leaving Pence in will help our future in the least. I think a better move for our future is to let the Republicans deny the American people the fair trial promised by our Constitution and let that sink in.

America's future is being threatened by a nebulous plutocracy that is using the Republican Party as their political arm. Trump is just another one of their puppets. The Republican mockery of due process is already a bigger win in our fight to save our future than removing a puppet could ever be.

straightUp Loc: California

We ARE still under the Obama economy. Do you think the economy stops and starts every time we get a new president? The economy basically drives itself... the only time a president gets involved is when a crisis warrants government intervention. Obama had to do that in his first term because Bush crashed it but that's the last time the government got involved... it's been hands off ever since.


Well... I watch CNN about as often as I watch Fox and that's not often. I'm one of those people who actually read newspapers and I don't need to wish for anything to make Trump look bad - he does quite well with that on his own.


I agree and I credit my own optimism for a lot of my success in life. But keep in mind how relative the world can be... I'm betting I was more optimistic about Obama than you were - and here you are expecting me to be optimistic about Trump.

Optimism... lol - Ya know what pisses conservatives off more than anything else? My optimism about a progressive America.

straightUp Loc: California

No pain - no gain. ;)


I hope we don't see another 2008 either - that economic crash was pretty bad. I'm glad Obama stepped in to save us. ;)

straightUp Loc: California

More like, we got everything we need from the "trial". No need to continue the circus.


Which republic are you talking about?


Then stop supporting them.


Well, I hope so... it's been a while since me and my mob had a cause to dance in the streets.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

The circus won't stop. Your girl mudface Waters has declared that.

straightUp Loc: California

That's a very good point stiff... and important to understand too. I think the era of nationwide cable news has allowed us to forget the significance of local politics but I think that too is changing since Trump's overreaching of executive power has run into unprecedented defiance from local governments across the country.

Lonewolf

You cannot be acquitted if you don’t have a trial. And you don’t have a trial if you don’t have witnesses and documentation.”

Rose42

I agree with that but would add that the puppeteers don’t care about party and have used and manipulated both. Its a multi pronged attack.

Lonewolf

we are the problem

straightUp Loc: California

LOL - Well, you got a point there.
Huh.
So, we're does that leave things if in a two-part process, only one part fires?

I guess, that would leave the clown impeached and in office, like an ugly version of Bill Clinton that has to spend money to get a chick.

Of course the lawyers will argue that the clips from the witness testimonies in the hearing count. It's funny, the lawyers aren't even that good - in fact they really suck but it doesn't matter because the senators have already made up their minds. It's such a parallel to Trump and the state of the Union which Obama left in such good shape that even a monkey could be president for a while and look good doing it.

straightUp Loc: California

I agree 100% and I have always said that.

Parties get used by plutocrats like horses get used by gamblers. It's basically a betting system. So, while both parties are running laps, the plutocrats are placing bets on which party will give them the best return on their investment, so it might be one horse today, another horse tomorrow.

You probably won't like what I have to say next but I think on this particular "day" the Republicans are a better bet for the plutocrats that have a conflict of interest with the American people.

Rose42

I agree that the republicans are better for them now but they are also like jockeys riding the horses and maneuvering for position. Its also no accident our candidates keep getting progressively worse.