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Pariahjf

proud republican wrote:

Oh ok so according to you just because his job was dangerous we have no right to pay back??? With this President every life is important!! We been telling Iran to stop killing our citizens and that there will be retaliation if if they continue to be bad actors!!! President had every right to do what he did!!!Besides there was an imminent threat to our troops!!!!

The Hague and the Geneva Conventions prohibit the premeditated killing of a specific individual commander for what they have done on the battlefield or what they MAY do.

Smedley_buzkill

working class stiff wrote:

So what? Trump has been calling Democrats traitors his entire term so far. That's the level of political dialogue we're at. And in reality the American people voted for Mrs. Clinton to be in the White House. It was the electoral college that put Trump in.

History lesson: The Electoral College has determined who is president since our first election. If you have a problem with this you have a number of options...
1). Move somewhere that has a popular vote. I hear both Venezuela and Somalia are lovely this time of year.
2). Die, and you won't have to worry about it. (My personal favorite)
3). Begin the lengthy and complicated process of getting an Amendment to the Constitution you know so little about ratified.
4). Do nothing, and whine and complain and accuse Conservatives of causing your own failures.
(Just so you know, about 58% of registered voters actually voted in the 2016 election, so any claims that a majority of people voted for Hillary are somewhat laughable.)

Smedley_buzkill

Pariahjf wrote:

The Hague and the Geneva Conventions prohibit the premeditated killing of a specific individual commander for what they have done on the battlefield or what they MAY do.

Matter of fact, the Geneva Convention only applies in situations where war has been declared by Congress. You really should get your facts straight.
You should also probably demand the trial of Obama for war crimes since he okayed the killing of Bin Laden.

Pariahjf

Smedley_buzkill wrote:

Matter of fact, the Geneva Convention only applies in situations where war has been declared by Congress. You really should get your facts straight.
You should also probably demand the trial of Obama for war crimes since he okayed the killing of Bin Laden.

War has been declared in the case of Iraq-----and the actions (destruction of the US embassy) that precipitated this happened in Iraq, not Iran. And they've never called the war over in Iraq-----it's an occupation now. And I am not demanding the trial of either president.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Smedley_buzkill wrote:

History lesson: The Electoral College has determin... (show quote)

Here we go again. You have never heard me complain about the electoral college, nor the legitimacy of the Trump presidency. It may be a shortcoming in your world view that makes you think that those with whom you disagree are somehow less patriotic, American, or knowledgeable about the constitution than you.

And just so you know, the sample size of American voters is plenty large enough to make the sampling error vanishingly small. By the same token, your argument about the number of voters works against the claim that the President was elected by the American people. What's laughable is that you continue to think the President has a mandate when he did not receive the majority of votes nor make an effort to win over voters who did not vote for him.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Have read this before. Would be a disaster for our Republic. Many, many disenfranchised states. Mob rule.

working class stiff wrote:

Trump may win again. I have heard of an analysis that would have Trump win the EC even though losing the popular vote by 9 m. It's the way the system works.

If that were to happen (Trump winning the presidency and losing substantially in the popular vote) I suspect resistance will stiffen. I also think it would give a push to forming:

https://www.fairvote.org/what_is_the_national_popular_vote_plan

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Trump is trying to keep as many promises that he ran on as he can.

working class stiff wrote:

Here we go again. You have never heard me complai... (show quote)

dongreen76

JFlorio wrote:

Perhaps I misunderstood. Are you trying, like many... (show quote)

The popular vote is truer to the concept of a Democracy.The electoral college snaphooed because of the process known as Gerrymandering.The founders were not that familiar with that process when they were determining how the president should be elected.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

dongreen76 wrote:

The popular vote is truer to the concept of a Democracy.The electoral college snaphooed because of the process known as Gerrymandering.The founders were not that familiar with that process when they were determining how the president should be elected.

I'm asking again!!Why nobody cared about Electoral College when Obama Bush were elected???? Why start now???

debeda

woodguru wrote:

How quickly we jump to the other side of thinking, remember the reporter that got killed and cut up, since when do we go to war over a contractor that gets killed? These contractors in dangerously unstable areas in the middle east get paid stupidly excessive money because...wait for it...it is dangerous, it is hazardous duty pay.

The Saudi journalist? Or was he Iranian?

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

dongreen76 wrote:

The popular vote is truer to the concept of a Democracy.The electoral college snaphooed because of the process known as Gerrymandering.The founders were not that familiar with that process when they were determining how the president should be elected.

And pure democracy is mob rule. Our Founders knew exactly what they were doing.

dongreen76

proud republican wrote:

I'm asking again!!Why nobody cared about Electoral College when Obama Bush were elected???? Why start now???

You keep saying stupid shit because you are a Proud Brilliant Republican.This is what they do.
Obama won the popular vote with 52%, and the electoral college vote with 365 in 2008.Obama won the popular vote with 51% in 2012, and won the electoral college vote with 332.
That's why Obamas constituency are not claiming the electoral college malfeased .It reflected how the people felt;how ever generic the situation was- just because there was a disparity of the numbers in the popular vote 52,and 51% that did not match up with his wins of 67 % in 2008 and 61% in 2012,in the electoral college ,never the less democracy prevailed - there could be no argument that he was the people's choice.We are not sure,if it prevailed concerning Trump.

Saspatz007 Loc: The goat sheds

Pariahjf wrote:

Well, al-Shabab killed an active duty soldier and two DoD contractors Sunday in Kenya, but I don't see Trump looking for them to kill them. Must have something to do with that oil field Iran found back in November with 50 billion barrels worth of oil??

Give us oil lots of oil,
lots of profitable oil,
we’re getting rich.

Let us drill, let us frack,
and we’ll always back your PAC.
Don’t regulate!

Brine water kills so much land,
don’t forget Alaskan sand,
we’ll take it all.

Let us lay down our pipes just as we please.
Where we can’t seem to buy, you will surely seize.
Don’t forget we own you, so stay on your knees.
Just give us oil.

debeda

JFlorio wrote:

And pure democracy is mob rule. Our Founders knew exactly what they were doing.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Pariahjf wrote:

Well, al-Shabab killed an active duty soldier and two DoD contractors Sunday in Kenya, but I don't see Trump looking for them to kill them. Must have something to do with that oil field Iran found back in November with 50 billion barrels worth of oil??

Guarantee we are looking for their commander. Oil has nothing to do with it.