oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I have had too many forwarded e-mails about this situation to not believe it is happening. They are going to skip around the Constitution and make the electoral college an old constitutional system that is no longer used. They are going to strengthen the power of the cities in the blue states and take away any electoral powers the red states have ever had. The thing that bothers me most about this is that red state friends seem to think this is the way to go.

http://www.newsmax.com/Morris/morris-democrats-electoral-college/2014/04/15/id/565661/?ns_mail_uid=15972424&ns_mail_job=1564560_04152014&promo_code=pawhl1iq

Brian Devon

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The Republicans are always threatened by too much democracy. They consider voting by minorities and uppity women to be mob rule. As their redneck base shrinks year by year all they can do is bitch and moan about the loss of the good ol' days when the folks "who are not our kind" would just shuffle aside and avoid eye contact with their "betters". Their response to adapting to modernity is to jerry-rig elections so that the shrinking cracker base can win in spite of not having the most votes.

bahmer

We have to many RHINO's out there that are shooting themselves in the foot. How about we get voter ID and one person gets one vote and try that for a few elections. Tell Holder where he can get off and then true the vote for a change. I would rather see fair as far as elections are concerned than getting in the water to fight the shark. if we do that we are doomed and they know it. We have so many complicit republican RHINO's I wonder if we can stop it.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

A bit harsh but that is pretty much how it is.

Artemis

It is articles like this that allows me to understand why and how people are so loathing each other parties. Manipulating Americans against Americans. I still say lets all go for a NO party system.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Go ahead and say something about the topic of the thread instead of doing you so wonderful job of deflection. You don't even know what the electoral college is or how it is supposed to work according to the Constitution, or at least it appears you don't from what you said.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

What did Brian say about how we use the electoral college? I missed anything but maybe you saw something since you tried to agree with him.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I think people just want to join the club. Once they are in they want to stay in. They get all of the good perks.

They know that once they are in they know who to please to get the money to get elected again.

No one has the guts to stand on their own values.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

Brian Devon wrote:
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The Republicans are always threatened by too much democracy. They consider voting by minorities and uppity women to be mob rule. As their redneck base shrinks year by year all they can do is bitch and moan about the loss of the good ol' days when the folks "who are not our kind" would just shuffle aside and avoid eye contact with their "betters". Their response to adapting to modernity is to jerry-rig elections so that the shrinking cracker base can win in spite of not having the most votes.


I just agreed that sort of stuff has happened.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

rumitoid

Oldest political trick in the book: if caught doing something wrong, say its the other party doing it.

"The GOP doesn't have one "master plan" to rig the electoral college. Instead, lawmakers are considering a couple of different versions of a plan that would tie electoral votes to congressional districts. Ready to geek out? Okay. The plan would award one electoral vote to the winner of the popular vote in each congressional district. That would leave two leftover electoral votes, representing the state's two senators, up for grabs. In Virginia's plan, the two bonus votes would have been given to the candidate who won the most districts (that proposal was killed on Tuesday); in other versions of the proposal, two bonus votes would go to the winner of the statewide popular vote.

"The only problem? Congressional districts aren't created equal. In 2010, the GOP went on a massive gerrymandering spree that allowed Republicans to keep their House majority in 2012 even though more Americans voted for Democrats. Tying electoral votes to these gerrymandered districts would give the GOP a huge advantage in states that are expected to go blue on the presidential level. This could discount the votes of those Americans who live in urban areas, particularly minority groups. (Blogger Paul Bibeau found that the Virginia plan would make a Democrat vote worth 3/5 of a Republican one.)" Read more at http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/gops-election-rigging-plan-explained

"Republicans have a new strategy for 2016: Change the rules of presidential elections in order to swing the Electoral College in the GOP's favor.

"On Wednesday, Virginia's Republican-controlled legislature became one of the first to advance a bill that would allocate electoral votes by congressional district. Last week, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus endorsed pushing through similar proposals in other states with Republican legislative majorities.

"The strategy would have states alter the way they translate individual votes into electors -- thereby giving Republican candidates an advantage. Had the 2012 election been apportioned in every state according to these new Republican plans, Romney would have led Obama by at least 11 electoral votes." Read more at
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/24/republican-vote-rigging-electoral-college_n_2546010.html

"Priebus: Republicans in blue states ‘ought to be’ rigging Electoral College"
"Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairman Reince Priebus says that conservative lawmakers in blue states like Wisconsin “ought to be looking at” ways to rig the Electoral College system to tilt elections towards Republican candidates in a way that could have allowed presidential candidate Mitt Romney to win.

"On Sunday, the Journal Sentinel reported that Priebus had called on states that traditionally vote for Democratic presidential candidates — but are controlled by Republican legislatures — to devise a scheme to split electoral votes instead of awarding them to a single candidate.

“I think it’s something that a lot of states that have been consistently blue that are fully controlled red ought to be looking at,” the RNC chairman explained, noting that such a system would give state lawmakers “more local control.” read more at http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/14/priebus-republicans-in-blue-states-ought-to-be-rigging-electoral-college/

rumitoid

Here's another rigging job by GOP: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/01/16/1451351/pennsylvania-house-republicans-introduce-bill-to-rig-the-2016-presidential-election/

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Mother Jones, Huffington Post, and Raw Story. I guess I will use stick with my source since I saw a number of real mistakes in your post, like gerrymandering cutting out city votes. How in hell can you cut up a city into parts that allow taking away the normal city Democrat vote. I have been hearing left leaners talk about all that gerrymandering without understanding what it was all about and now I finally know. Do they go block by block or make the districts only one block wide to give the rural people the advantage.

I don't seem to remember who it was who pushed the "one man, one vote thing back in the 60s. I was a Democrat back then so it must have been Republicans.

When I read your sources I find that somehow somebody has failed to understand what the Constitution said about
electoral votes. When I read the one I linked here I see that someone (Democrats) are trying to change that one man, one vote thing. I guess I just don't understand how pure democracy can possibly work for a nation of over 300 million.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Think Progress? You are trying me.

rumitoid

Do you dismiss the RNC chairman as well? Very easy to verify: did Priebus call to rig the Electoral College because the Democrats were doing it? No mention of the dirty trick Democrats doing the same thing. And if you do not want to be disappointed with the truth of rigging by the GOP or the accuracy of all three sources, do not google PA or VA legislature to find the rigging bills.

Both governors of Ohio and Wisconsin have talked openly about rigging the electoral college. But they only have to say the Dems are doing it and their constituents will believe them. Counter propaganda. Oldest dirty political trick in the book: blame the other party for the misdeeds of one's own party.