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Cardinal Dolan: Excommunicating Andrew Cuomo “Not an Appropriate Response” for Legalizing Abortions Up to Birth
Syndicated with permission of LifeNews.com

Millions of Catholics nationwide who want New York Governor Andrew Cuomo excommunicated from the Catholic Church for signing a bill that legalizes abortions up to birth are going to be sorely disappointed.

Through a spokesman, Cardinal Timothy Dolan said that excommunicating the governor is “not an appropriate response.” He went on to say that excommunication is typically called for by frustrated Catholics who are upset.

As a reported for CNN tweeted: “I asked @CardinalDolan‘s spokesman about the calls for Gov. Cuomo to be excommunicated over NY’s new abortion bill. While emphasizing that this should not be considered a comment on any specific person, he said excommunication “should not be used as a weapon.”

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I asked @CardinalDolan's spokesman about the calls for Gov. Cuomo to be excommunicated over NY's new abortion bill. While emphasizing that this should not be considered a comment on any specific person, he said excommunication "should not be used as a weapon." Full statement:

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SIGN THE PETITION: Excommunicate Andrew Cuomo for Legalizing Abortions Up to Birth

The Democrat governor claims to be a devout Catholic and even quoted Pope Francis to back up his opposition to the death penalty. But he also is a radical abortion activist who threatened to hold up the state budget until the legislature passed a law legalizing abortion for basically any reason up to birth.

On Tuesday, state lawmakers did, and Cuomo celebrated. To mark the expanded killing of the unborn, he ordered that the One World Trade Center and other state landmarks be lit in pink “to celebrate this achievement and shine a bright light forward for the rest of the nation to follow.”

The so-called Reproductive Health Act goes beyond Roe v. Wade, allowing unborn babies to be aborted even when the U.S. Supreme Court has said states may restrict abortions. The law’s broad language will allow late-term abortions on viable, healthy unborn babies for basically any reason up to birth in New York.

Other Catholic leaders are calling for excommunication.

“It’s time to end the charade, even the lie, that Andrew Cuomo and others like him are Catholics in good standing,” Monsignor Charles Pope wrote at the National Catholic Register this week.

He said New York bishops have not done enough to condemn the heinous actions of so-called Catholic politicians like Cuomo.

SIGN THE PETITION: Excommunicate Andrew Cuomo for Legalizing Abortions Up to Birth

Pope wrote:

To date the Catholic bishops of New York have issued a statement expressing dismay and “profound sadness” and rang a Church bell in protest. Respectfully, that is not enough. Canonical penalties are due to the Governor and other Catholics who voted for this legislation. This is necessary both for the common good, to avoid the scandal of tolerance of evil, and as a strong summons to the governor and others to repent before the Day of Judgment. …

This cannot be allowed to stand without canonical penalties. I am not a canon lawyer, but the truth is clear that Governor Andrew Cuomo is not in communion with the Catholic Church. At this point canonical penalties forbidding him to receive Holy Communion — or even, if possible, issuing a formal excommunication — are simply affirming what is already true and what he himself has done. To fail to issue all possible canonical penalties at this point would, to my mind, show the Church to be irrelevant and a laughingstock.

Philadelphia Inquirer columnist Christine Flowers did not mention excommunication specifically in her column about Cuomo, but she did point out just how radical his stance is – both in the eyes of the Catholic Church and the general public.

“The law passed this week makes it impossible for the government to prevent a woman from choosing an abortion during the first six months,” she wrote.

She pointed to Iceland where 100 percent of unborn babies diagnosed with Down syndrome are aborted, saying that could happen in New York, too.

“Imagine if women in America could wait up to six months to choose abort their babies for issues even less devastating than Down’s Syndrome. What if a woman chose to abort because she wanted a boy instead of a girl? That’s feasible under Cuomo’s law,” she continued.

But J.D. Flynn, editor in chief of the Catholic News Agency and a canon lawyer, said excommunication probably will not happen.

Writing at the Washington Post, Flynn said Catholic Canon Law has very specific circumstances for excommunication, and Cuomo’s actions do not appear to “fit the bill.”

“Some experts have argued that a long history of advocacy for abortion rights demonstrates Cuomo’s implicit heresy, another canonical crime for which he might be excommunicated,” he continued. “But the path to formally declaring Cuomo a heretic is complicated, and [New York Archbishop Timothy] Dolan probably would not pursue it.”

Pressure is mounting on Dolan to do something to condemn Cuomo’s blatant hypocrisy. Flynn suggested that the archbishop could deem Cuomo’s actions “obstinate perseverance” in grave sin and deny him communion.

Cuomo’s new law flies in the face of the teachings of the Catholic Church and Christianity as a whole. He supports the unrestricted killing of unique, living babies in the womb. Abortion is a grave and despicable evil that must be condemned and swiftly.

PJT

So many Catholic prelates deserve communication. But liberals protect their own.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Thanks for the post. It is what I had expected, our Church hierarchy has given up their mandate to give moral guidance to the laity and taken up partisan politics as their lodestar instead.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

It's totally bizarre and counterproductive. Lowering standards of faith and practice is so destructive and ultimately loses communicants. Consider, for example, a university with high entrance standards compared to one that anyone can get into. There is a distinct advantage for life to graduate from one that calls for the Truth that standards matter. In this case high standards of faith and practice. No compromise of faith and practice.

PJT

The catholic church shrinks. To combat that they do things to shrink it more. Maybe we are in the last days.

zillaorange

Anybody using pope francis as an example of the Roman Church has been fooled, to say the least !!! As I understand it, Christ said none get to the Father except through me. francis said establish a relationship with the church ! It seems to me he has things really screwed up in his understanding of what Christ said !!!

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I wonder why Jesus was concerned about establishing His Church which informed Christians understand the Church to be the Body of Christ? Churches have clergy and scriptures explains their requirements and selection. Obviously they're not there to be social directors. If one understands that the Church is the Body of Christ, and that's a big "if", then they ought to be able to understand that salvation is also through the Church, the Body of Christ. You see, it still holds true that none get to heaven except through Christ. Christians gather together to worship their Lord, their God, their Savior, their Redeemer. It's not a faith practiced on individual little islands although that's exactly what some believe......wrongly.

zillaorange

It's the Eucharist that's the Body & Blood of Christ! The Body (Bread) & Blood (Wine) received at Communion
that was served at the Last Supper that are the Representation of the Christ! Not the Roman Church or any church that represent the Lord !!!

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I'm not quite certain what you're trying to say but I agree, in one sense, that a valid Eucharist requires valid clergy found within the valid Church. That Church most certainly represents and presents Christ to His people.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Amen...

Churchs develop their teachings based on their view and build it from that, not necessarily as God spoke it to be..

The moral reinforcer, if you will, of our Lord to come together in worship...
But it is through Christ we are redeemed and true salvation occurs..

zillaorange

zillaorange

By the way, il duce cuomo isn't just guilty for the murder of the INNOCENT, he's also anti-Constitution !!!

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Good Morning to you zilla.. I have found much agreement in your posts on this topic..

Almost impossible to challenge a bill after sweeping through with the democrats in office someone needs to take this bill and challenge it before the Supreme Court who hsd established up to 24 weeks gestation.... On the face of things as far as they are concerned anything past that time is arguably a life sustaining baby, no longer fetus and is not so written...

A long shot because the argument will become ~~

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists issued a statement saying: "Abortions are necessary in a number of circumstances to save the life of a woman or to preserve her health. Unfortunately, pregnancy is not a risk-free life event."

Conditions that might lead to ending a pregnancy to save a woman's life include severe infections, heart failure and severe cases of preeclampsia, a condition in which a woman develops very high blood pressure and is at risk for stroke, says Erika Levi, a obstetrician and gynecologist at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill...

An interesting challenge that will then be which life do you save...

Horrific anyway you look at it.

zillaorange

Good morning linda, more useful info ! Trying to find more info on the mother's health issue. Wondering if planned parenthood will abide by the law, Roe v. Wade forbids abortion as a matter of convenience, yet the slaughter still continues !!! The Creator I know is 1 of wrath & vengeance ! Waiting to see how long it'll be 'til the hammer comes down ???!!!

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Thank you lovely LindaJoy...

I have been trying to find information concerning what constitutes a health risk to the mother...

My search engine skills are somewhat lacking...

How are you this fine morning?