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Jun 22, 2018 08:25:25   #
Gatsby
 
The SCOTUS just re-leveled the playing field for ALL. The previously favored are sure to squeel the loudest.

https://taxfoundation.org/supreme-court-decides-wayfair-online-sales-tax-case/

Drumroll…South Dakota won. The Court laid out why South Dakota’s law is no burden to interstate commerce

but made clear that more complex or overreaching laws would be....

Does anyone think that this ruling was WRONG?

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Jun 22, 2018 09:05:16   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Gatsby wrote:
The SCOTUS just re-leveled the playing field for ALL. The previously favored are sure to squeel the loudest.

https://taxfoundation.org/supreme-court-decides-wayfair-online-sales-tax-case/

Drumroll…South Dakota won. The Court laid out why South Dakota’s law is no burden to interstate commerce

but made clear that more complex or overreaching laws would be....

Does anyone think that this ruling was WRONG?


Most all States and cities have to BUY A PERMIT to sell in the state, even cities most cities you have to have a sales license so why not the internet.

The little extra income would help the state's and cities.

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Jun 22, 2018 09:09:20   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Gatsby wrote:
The SCOTUS just re-leveled the playing field for ALL. The previously favored are sure to squeel the loudest.

https://taxfoundation.org/supreme-court-decides-wayfair-online-sales-tax-case/

Drumroll…South Dakota won. The Court laid out why South Dakota’s law is no burden to interstate commerce

but made clear that more complex or overreaching laws would be....

Does anyone think that this ruling was WRONG?




Once I lived in northern Florida just a few miles south of Georgia. I would drive a few miles over the border and fill up my gas tank

It will make little difference, I needed a cat5 internet cable 25 feet long, Wallmart had it for $27.00 I found one on the web $7.95. next day free shipping.
I save $2.00 in gas and a guy ring my doorbell and handed it to me.


since the tax in Georgia was 10 cents less.

So, is that wrong?

If one takes a moment and look around the world we will see lots of conflicts, a lot of it is do to taxes.
At this very moment, we see tariffs (tax) are causing huge problems in the world. I this keeps up
everything in your world will cost more. And all over taxes, more and more taxes. Seems the need
for more is never-ending.

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Jun 22, 2018 09:22:18   #
Mike Easterday
 
I personally don't like Wayfair . They sided with the control people. Especially Pig Boy, aka David Hogg . They can go bankrupt for all I care!

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Jun 22, 2018 09:22:37   #
nailbender
 
does anyone believe that there will every be enough money for any city, county, state or uncle sam? I think not. two plus two equils forty two so they spend eighty four because old joe six pack is going to pay the tab. the working class is the largest class and always will be, they will get the lions share of the bill.

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Jun 22, 2018 09:24:46   #
Gatsby
 
old marine wrote:
Most all States and cities have to BUY A PERMIT to sell in the state, even cities most cities you have to have a sales license so why not the internet.

The little extra income would help the state's and cities.


From $8 billion to $13 billion, per year, is more than a "little extra income"?

How is it that regaining previously lost source of income, now becomes extra income?

For a state like South Dakota, which has no state, county or municipal income tax, this is a huge victory!

For many of the surviving small "mom & pop" retailers accross the state, this is life itself, as well as for the small towns that they call HOME!

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Jun 22, 2018 09:39:19   #
Gatsby
 
cold iron wrote:
Once I lived in northern Florida just a few miles south of Georgia. I would drive a few miles over the border and fill up my gas tank
since the tax in Georgia was 10 cents less.

So, is that wrong?

If one takes a moment and look around the world we will see lots of conflicts, a lot of it is do to taxes.
At this very moment, we see tariffs (tax) are causing huge problems in the world. I this keeps up
everything in your world will cost more. And all over taxes, more and more taxes. Seems the need
for more is never-ending.
Once I lived in northern Florida just a few miles ... (show quote)


And you will still be able to do that, if you don't buy that gas over the internet, and have it delivered to your door.

With the old exemption on collecting state sales taxes on internet sales, you could have avoided paying any state tax at all, on that gasoline.

In what world was that fair?

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Jun 22, 2018 10:14:44   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
You have, IMHO, spelled out quite succinctly why this ruling will make little difference in the number of customers entering the doors of "brick and mortar" stores.

It may be "fairer" to have the online stores collecting and remitting sales tax, just as the physical stores now do, and certainly the states will benefit from increased revenue, although much of it will probably be spent frivolously.

Very few online customers, however, will cheerfully drive their automobile to a store, incurring gasoline expense, wear and tear on their vehicle and the loss of an hour, usually longer, of their day in order to save sales tax, as long as they have the option of spending five to ten minutes on a home computer placing an order, which will be shipped free to their home, and received within a day or two.

The "Mom and Pop" stores will now have the satisfaction of knowing that their online competitors are now incurring the same inconvenience they do in collecting and remitting sales tax to their states, but it is very doubtful that their profit/income/earnings bottom line will show any discernible increase.

In sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, there will be more taxpayer's money with which to pamper and bribe their illegal alien potential future voters.



cold iron wrote:
Once I lived in northern Florida just a few miles south of Georgia. I would drive a few miles over the border and fill up my gas tank

It will make little difference, I needed a cat5 internet cable 25 feet long, Wallmart had it for $27.00 I found one on the web $7.95. next day free shipping.
I save $2.00 in gas and a guy ring my doorbell and handed it to me.


since the tax in Georgia was 10 cents less.

So, is that wrong?

If one takes a moment and look around the world we will see lots of conflicts, a lot of it is do to taxes.
At this very moment, we see tariffs (tax) are causing huge problems in the world. I this keeps up
everything in your world will cost more. And all over taxes, more and more taxes. Seems the need
for more is never-ending.
Once I lived in northern Florida just a few miles ... (show quote)

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Jun 22, 2018 10:52:26   #
Gatsby
 
Zemirah wrote:
You have, IMHO, spelled out quite succinctly why this ruling will make little difference in the number of customers entering the doors of "brick and mortar" stores.

It may be "fairer" to have the online stores collecting and remitting sales tax, just as the physical stores now do, and certainly the states will benefit from increased revenue, although much of it will probably be spent frivolously.

Very few online customers, however, will cheerfully drive their automobile to a store, incurring gasoline expense, wear and tear on their vehicle and the loss of an hour, usually longer, of their day in order to save sales tax, as long as they have the option of spending five to ten minutes on a home computer placing an order, which will be shipped free to their home, and received within a day or two.

The "Mom and Pop" stores will now have the satisfaction of knowing that their online competitors are now incurring the same inconvenience they do in collecting and remitting sales tax to their states, but it is very doubtful that their profit/income/earnings bottom line will show any discernible increase.

In sanctuary cities and sanctuary states, there will be more taxpayer's money with which to pamper and bribe their illegal alien potential future voters.
You have, IMHO, spelled out quite succinctly why t... (show quote)


You avoid the obvious, online retailers just lost their 4-7% edge, in huge segements of their market, they will be forced to

increase prices or end free shipping, to maintain their market share, or face a reduction in their bottom line.

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Jun 22, 2018 12:36:27   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
For many, there is an unspoken aspect to shopping from home, and that is safety, as the prospect of shooters and bombings in malls becomes a reality, as well as frenzied truck drivers barrelling down sidewalks and deliberately mowing down shoppers.

The tax will be collected from the consumer in either case, not from the seller's bottom line.

For younger families with small children, shopping out can be a nightmare. Better to purchase online during their naptime.

For all those whose lifestyle leaves no spare time, online shopping has become a necessity, not a luxury, and is worth a few dollars more.

There will always be those who enjoy shopping, and who want to handle the merchandise, to compare products and to interact with sellers.

With the influx of thousands of both muslim refugees and illegal aliens being funded by our government (us) as our new reality, unless they embrace online shopping, they may drastically increase the number of in-store shoppers.

I applaud the small privately owned businesses, and I believe they can hold their own, for there will always be a place for them.



Gatsby wrote:
You avoid the obvious, online retailers just lost their 4-7% edge, in huge segements of their market, they will be forced to

increase prices or end free shipping, to maintain their market share, or face a reduction in their bottom line.

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Jun 22, 2018 13:23:40   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Gatsby wrote:
From $8 billion to $13 billion, per year, is more than a "little extra income"?

How is it that regaining previously lost source of income, now becomes extra income?

For a state like South Dakota, which has no state, county or municipal income tax, this is a huge victory!

For many of the surviving small "mom & pop" retailers accross the state, this is life itself, as well as for the small towns that they call HOME!


I HATE TO BUST YOUR BUBBLE AND RAIN ON YOUR PARADE. BUT SOUTH DAKOTA WILL NOT RECEIVE A SINGLE CENT FROM THE SCOUTS RULING.

South Dakota's 0% sales tax from internet sales = $0

Maybe you can increase these taxes:
Motor fuel tax
Sales, used and contractors excise tax
Bank franchise tac
Liquor tax
Tobacco tax
Municipal tax
Licensing and regerstrring tax
DON'T ASK ME WHAT THEY ARE, I JUST LISTED THEM FROM. THE SOUTH DAKOTA STATE TAX WEB SITE. you can

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Jun 22, 2018 20:14:32   #
Gatsby
 
old marine wrote:
I HATE TO BUST YOUR BUBBLE AND RAIN ON YOUR PARADE. BUT SOUTH DAKOTA WILL NOT RECEIVE A SINGLE CENT FROM THE SCOUTS RULING.

South Dakota's 0% sales tax from internet sales = $0

Maybe you can increase these taxes:
Motor fuel tax
Sales, used and contractors excise tax
Bank franchise tac
Liquor tax
Tobacco tax
Municipal tax
Licensing and regerstrring tax
DON'T ASK ME WHAT THEY ARE, I JUST LISTED THEM FROM. THE SOUTH DAKOTA STATE TAX WEB SITE. you can
I HATE TO BUST YOUR BUBBLE AND RAIN ON YOUR PARADE... (show quote)


The state web site has not been updated to reflect this SCOTUS decision, its only been a day. As for increasing other taxes,

that requires a 2/3 majority in both houses of the legislature; the result of a voter initiated constitutional amendment.

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Jun 22, 2018 22:27:28   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Gatsby wrote:
The state web site has not been updated to reflect this SCOTUS decision, its only been a day. As for increasing other taxes,

that requires a 2/3 majority in both houses of the legislature; the result of a voter initiated constitutional amendment.


I was basing my statement on quote "South Dakota dosent collect sales tax." Unquote.

Were you lying then or now. Don't leave the board guessing. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Oh wait you must be a confused socilest Demon-Rat so carry on with your confusion.

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Jun 23, 2018 01:08:53   #
Gatsby
 
old marine wrote:
I was basing my statement on quote "South Dakota dosent collect sales tax." Unquote.

Were you lying then or now. Don't leave the board guessing. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Oh wait you must be a confused socilest Demon-Rat so carry on with your confusion.


I don't know where you found the false statement that "South Dakota doesn't collect sales tax", it was not posted by me.

I did make the statement that South Dakota has no state, county or municipal income tax, which has always been true.

If South Dakota had no sales tax, then they would have no "standing" to bring this lawsuit.

Semper Fi.

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Jun 23, 2018 04:25:45   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Gatsby wrote:
I don't know where you found the false statement that "South Dakota doesn't collect sales tax", it was not posted by me.

I did make the statement that South Dakota has no state, county or municipal income tax, which has always been true.

If South Dakota had no sales tax, then they would have no "standing" to bring this lawsuit.

Semper Fi.


I stand corrected!!!!!

I misread what you posted.

Semper Fi brother's and sister's and all true American patriots every where.

Long may old glory fly over the land of the free and home of the brave forever amen and amen.

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