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Jun 23, 2018 07:21:56   #
Big Kahuna
 
Mike Easterday wrote:
I personally don't like Wayfair . They sided with the control people. Especially Pig Boy, aka David Hogg . They can go bankrupt for all I care!


And that pig boy is still wallowing in the mud with that corrupt demonrat party.

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Jun 23, 2018 09:50:22   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Seems we think we can tax ourselves into greatness.

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Jun 23, 2018 10:43:02   #
Gatsby
 
cold iron wrote:
Seems we think we can tax ourselves into greatness.


The SCOTUS decision did not create any new tax, it simply allows each state to lawfully collect taxes due, on a basis of equality to all.

What happened to the concept of "equal treatment to all", under the law?

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Jun 23, 2018 11:18:26   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Gatsby wrote:
The SCOTUS decision did not create any new tax, it simply allows each state to lawfully collect taxes due, on a basis of equality to all.

What happened to the concept of "equal treatment to all", under the law?


Given time they will figure out how to tax you for air. Some states tax you for uncooked food, in fact, one state has sales tax on everything, even your meds, nothing is free of tax.
Necessities of life should never be taxed.

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Jun 23, 2018 12:32:34   #
Gatsby
 
cold iron wrote:
Given time they will figure out how to tax you for air. Some states tax you for uncooked food, in fact, one state has sales tax on everything, even your meds, nothing is free of tax.
Necessities of life should never be taxed.


Obamacare already taxes every breath that you draw.

As for state taxes, everyone has the right to relocate to the state of their choice, at any time they may so choose.

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Jun 23, 2018 12:45:45   #
Homestead
 
Gatsby wrote:
The SCOTUS just re-leveled the playing field for ALL. The previously favored are sure to squeel the loudest.

https://taxfoundation.org/supreme-court-decides-wayfair-online-sales-tax-case/

Drumroll…South Dakota won. The Court laid out why South Dakota’s law is no burden to interstate commerce

but made clear that more complex or overreaching laws would be....

Does anyone think that this ruling was WRONG?


The biggest problem I have with internet taxes is that it violates states rights.

What they are trying to do is give one state authority over another states citizens.

That is they allowing one state to reach into another state to take taxes out of it, but, the first state is not controlled by the people they're taxing. This is taxation without representation.

If one state gets ludicrous with their taxes, they can push that burden onto another state and the citizen of the out of control state has no regress to protest the taxes their own state is burdensome on.

If all states are physically responsible, They don't create a situation where the citizens are trying to get out from under paying their taxes.

Lastly, if every state can collect taxes over the internet, then any extra taxes a particular state collects will be off set by the reduction of income paid by their own citizens to other states.

This might line the pockets of the politicians, but, at the expense of its citizens.

PS. taxes are raised to pay the expenses authorized by the citizenry.
Once the bills are paid, the government has no right to any more than that.

The government has no right to collect taxes just because it can.
They do it, but, only because the American people remain silent about it and don't raise a fuss.

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Jun 23, 2018 13:10:25   #
Gatsby
 
Homestead wrote:
The biggest problem I have with internet taxes is that it violates states rights.

What they are trying to do is give one state authority over another states citizens.

That is they allowing one state to reach into another state to take taxes out of it, but, the first state is not controlled by the people they're taxing. This is taxation without representation.

If one state gets ludicrous with their taxes, they can push that burden onto another state and the citizen of the out of control state has no regress to protest the taxes their own state is burdensome on.

If all states are physically responsible, They don't create a situation where the citizens are trying to get out from under paying their taxes.

Lastly, if every state can collect taxes over the internet, then any extra taxes a particular state collects will be off set by the reduction of income paid by their own citizens to other states.

This might line the pockets of the politicians, but, at the expense of its citizens.

PS. taxes are raised to pay the expenses authorized by the citizenry.
Once the bills are paid, the government has no right to any more than that.

The government has no right to collect taxes just because it can.
They do it, but, only because the American people remain silent about it and don't raise a fuss.
The biggest problem I have with internet taxes is ... (show quote)


This is in no way an "internet tax", each state may collect these taxes only on products purchased by,

and delivered to, the residents of their own state, from retailers who sell within their state.

Any retailer who does not see fit to collect, and remit, these sales taxes, is welcome to take their business elsewhere.

Check your monthly bill for internet access, to see how much the internet is actually taxed.

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Jun 23, 2018 18:39:06   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Gatsby wrote:
You avoid the obvious, online retailers just lost their 4-7% edge, in huge segements of their market, they will be forced to

increase prices or end free shipping, to maintain their market share, or face a reduction in their bottom line.





The consumer will still see the same low price on the internet, the sane free shipping as they are adding items to their online shopping cart. At checkout the tax will be added, a few cents to a few dollars depending on the purchase price and tax rate. Online buyers won't flinch, they still have an edge in saving time and money.
This is just more government taxation overreach, the very reason the first founders fleed Britain.

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Jun 23, 2018 19:08:47   #
Gatsby
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
The consumer will still see the same low price on the internet, the sane free shipping as they are adding items to their online shopping cart. At checkout the tax will be added, a few cents to a few dollars depending on the purchase price and tax rate. Online buyers won't flinch, they still have an edge in saving time and money.
This is just more government taxation overreach, the very reason the first founders fleed Britain.


Only time will tell the effect that this ruling will have on buying habits.

As for your claim of "taxation overreach" the SCOTUS disagrees with you, 6 to 3.

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Jun 23, 2018 19:24:37   #
maryjane
 
nailbender wrote:
does anyone believe that there will every be enough money for any city, county, state or uncle sam? I think not. two plus two equils forty two so they spend eighty four because old joe six pack is going to pay the tab. the working class is the largest class and always will be, they will get the lions share of the bill.


All of our government's, from local towns to states to the federal, receives plenty of money. They just waste it so many things the government should not even be dealing with, they pay entirely too much for everything. They are always spending OUR money, not theirs, so they make no effort to spend it wisely or frugally.

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Jun 23, 2018 20:24:38   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
cold iron wrote:
Given time they will figure out how to tax you for air. Some states tax you for uncooked food, in fact, one state has sales tax on everything, even your meds, nothing is free of tax.
Necessities of life should never be taxed.


But the socialist Demon-Rats swamp dwelling traitors need your tax payers money they think the taxpayers cookie jar is their own private ATM machine.

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Jun 23, 2018 20:33:16   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Gatsby wrote:
This is in no way an "internet tax", each state may collect these taxes only on products purchased by,

and delivered to, the residents of their own state, from retailers who sell within their state.

Any retailer who does not see fit to collect, and remit, these sales taxes, is welcome to take their business elsewhere.

Check your monthly bill for internet access, to see how much the internet is actually taxed.


CORRECTION:
According to my internet bill I PAY THE TAX NOW I CAN'T VERIFY THE INTERNET passed it on to the state.

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Jun 23, 2018 20:47:12   #
Gatsby
 
maryjane wrote:
All of our government's, from local towns to states to the federal, receives plenty of money. They just waste it so many things the government should not even be dealing with, they pay entirely too much for everything. They are always spending OUR money, not theirs, so they make no effort to spend it wisely or frugally.


If more voters paid as much attention to politics, as they do to their favorite sports teams, perhaps we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.

How many "touchdowns, 3 pointers, goals or home runs" did your elected representatives score last season?

How many "fumbles, fouls, errors or interceptions" did they have last season? what was his, or her, "ERA" last season?

How many times does the average voter "cheer on" or "boo" his, or her, elected representatives for their performance in office?

What we tolerate is what we get, do we really deserve better?

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Jun 23, 2018 21:05:09   #
Gatsby
 
old marine wrote:
CORRECTION:
According to my internet bill I PAY THE TAX NOW I CAN'T VERIFY THE INTERNET passed it on to the state.


Since your internet provider is still in business, it is a safe bet that the sales tax receipts are being remitted to the state,as required.

Collecting, and then failing to remit sales tax receipts is tax fraud, a crime no level of government will permit.

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Jun 24, 2018 13:41:57   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Gatsby wrote:
If more voters paid as much attention to politics, as they do to their favorite sports teams, perhaps we wouldn't be in the mess we're in today.

How many "touchdowns, 3 pointers, goals or home runs" did your elected representatives score last season?

How many "fumbles, fouls, errors or interceptions" did they have last season? what was his, or her, "ERA" last season?

How many times does the average voter "cheer on" or "boo" his, or her, elected representatives for their performance in office?

What we tolerate is what we get, do we really deserve better?
If more voters paid as much attention to politics,... (show quote)


You got that right.

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