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Jun 6, 2018 21:23:11   #
1ProudAmerican
 
Morgan wrote:
No, they don't have more rights than American's, at least when arrested the children are given to the family, if no family then the court decides, but they are not simply lost.

We need to stop this before any more children get hurt. It is a shameful act from our government, aren't we better than this?


How many have you offered to "foster"?

We "take kids away" from REAL citizens if THEY commit crimes....why are ILLEGALS any different???

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Jun 6, 2018 21:32:43   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Morgan wrote:
I've never seen the images only read about others seeing them, I don't want to see them, it would upset me, as a mother.


That's totally understandable.

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Jun 7, 2018 07:49:39   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Morgan wrote:
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as losing over 17,00 children, I have to ask myself, can this be true?

Last month, Steven Wagner, an official with the department of health and human services, told a Senate committee that his agency had “lost track” of 1,475 immigrant children who had been seized ggtafter crossing the US-Mexican border; some of these kids, it was feared, had been turned over to human traffickers.
That also:

The ACLU and the Human Rights Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School have also charged that US border guards beat and abused migrant children, and threatened them with sexual violence.

and...that a Honduran mother had been separated from her 18-month-old toddler for two months. We’ve seen images of children caged in cells like stray puppies at a shelter; two, three and four year old children huddled on cots under thin Mylar blankets; of weeping parents embracing their terrified children while immigration officers wait to grab the tearful kids.

One has to ask is this who we are? Is this who Lady Liberty shines her torch for? Wasn't this the country held out its arms to the downtrodden seeking refuge? now we pull children away from mothers, or family, as the Nazis did, pulling families apart?

Is this the way to go? or who we've become? There must be another way.

We use to be the country known for its humanitarian ways now we have the UN and foreign countries objecting to our inhumane practices. Welcome to the Trump administration and making us great again.
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as... (show quote)

THIS IS OLD NEWS AND HAPPENED WITH THE OBUMMER ADMINISTRATION..

Wake up you missed the train...😆

Semper Fi brother's and sister's and all true American patriots every where long may old glory fly over the land of the free and home of the brave.

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Jun 7, 2018 08:03:17   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
no propaganda please wrote:
No, absolutely not, do not take the babies away from their mothers. Send both the mother and her children back where they came from, ILLEGALLY after all. For those who were children years ago when they came here, but are now adults, send them back as adults to the country of origin. On the other hand, if they have committed a crime since getting here, then punishment and then deportation should be mandatory. Stop with this world without borders B*S which is, in reality a part of the Soviet one world under communism promotion, in its current stealth form.
No, absolutely not, do not take the babies away fr... (show quote)



Correct.

When mothers are sent to prison for some offense, they are taken from their children. Does anyone remember when their sons were left as orphans? It was very tough but it was justice. Many others face the same thing every day that a mother is arrested.

Tell us Morgan, how do you feel when a policewoman mother is killed by Antifa or Black Lives Matter protestors?

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Jun 7, 2018 08:13:01   #
SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan
 
Weren't some of these families legally applying for amnesty?

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Jun 7, 2018 08:13:01   #
SilentGeneration Loc: Michigan
 
Weren't some of these families legally applying for amnesty?

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Jun 7, 2018 08:28:49   #
Bug58
 
Morgan wrote:
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as losing over 17,00 children, I have to ask myself, can this be true?



I'm curious are you just as angry when American children are separated from their parents when the parents or even the child commits a crime and is found guilty and thrown in prison??

Are you just as angry when American parents who opt out of a particular medical treatment for their children and the state takes the children away, therefore separating the children from their parents??

Are you just as angry when American parents are cited for 'neglect' and their children are removed from their home because the parent let them go play at the neighborhood park, or walk to the local fishing hole to fish, or walk to the corner store to get a soda WITHOUT their parent present, or even walk home from school by themselves, or play out in their own front yards for hours without supervision???

Free range parents??? No, it's called parenting..but they fight against CPS.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/5/free-range-parents-want-more-freedom-kids/

Horror stories about parents being cited for letting their children engage in once-commonplace activities are legion, but the tension came to a head in 2015 with the publicity surrounding the Meitiv case in Silver Spring, Maryland.

Free-range parents Alexander and Danielle Meitiv were charged with neglect and threatened with the loss of their children, ages 10 and 6, for allowing them to walk home alone from a local park, although the charge was later dropped.

Ms. Skenazy, who now heads Let Grow, a non-profit aimed at promoting childhood self-sufficiency, bemoaned the fact that her push against “bubble-wrapping” kids has now made some parents “nervous that they could get arrested.”

It's pretty bad laws like this need to be passed at all...

The movement has already notched one legislative victory: In April, Utah Gov. Gary Herbert signed a law specifying that “neglect” does not include allowing a child to engage in “independent activities” such as playing outside, walking to school, or being left at home or in a car unattended under certain circumstances.


Each year, about 3.4 million cases involving 7.4 million children — roughly 10 percent of the U.S. child population — are screened by Child Protective Services. Of those, 650,000 cases receive a neglect determination.

“If kids play outside, if they’re left in cars, if they’re allowed to walk home from schools, CPS will very often in some places — not everywhere, but in many places in the United States — accept hotline calls and call that neglect,” said Ms. Redleaf, a Chicago lawyer who founded the Family Defense Center.

She said those found guilty of neglect may find their names on a child-abuse register, which could disqualify them from jobs in health care, education and other fields.

What’s more, such a finding “happens very often on the say-so of just a caseworker and their supervisor. They just declare you to be a neglecter. And some states don’t even have an effective system to allow you to challenge that,” said Ms. Redleaf.


How about this, does this make you just as angry???

https://www.offthegridnews.com/current-events/police-remove-7-children-from-parents-because-theyre-home-schooled/

“Nobody in their right mind would want to stay home all day with so many children,” the social worker reportedly said about Christina Tutt. The casework, though, also allegedly said, “There is no problem here” – that is, no concerns about the kids’ safety. The unidentified caseworker ordered Christina to undergo a psychological examination and enroll in parenting classes, according to the Texas Home School Coalition, which is supporting the parents.

The Tutts are highly experienced parents who have been caring for troubled children for years. Some of their children are biological, others adopted. The parents were even featured speakers at Lake Pointe Church’s Adoption and Foster Care Conference. The Tutts had already completed parenting classes from Safe Families, an organization for foster parents.


“Since all it takes is an anonymous phone call to have a family under investigation by CPS and if, with no evidence of abuse or neglect,” Texas Home School Coalition President Tim Lambert told The Washington Times, “a judge or CPS can remove children simply by alleging that the children are behind academically, then many families could be at risk.”

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Jun 7, 2018 10:00:03   #
Little George
 
All the complaints about separating parents from children when these 'parents' are attempting to enter our country illegally. If a citizen of the United States commits a crime and is put in jail, do their children get put in the jail cell with them? Nope! The illegal immigrants are breaking the law and should be incarcerated and or sent back to where they came. e.g., at the border put them back immediately to the side of the border they came from! No cost to the citizens of the USA!

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Jun 7, 2018 11:57:06   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
Morgan wrote:
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as losing over 17,00 children, I have to ask myself, can this be true?

Last month, Steven Wagner, an official with the department of health and human services, told a Senate committee that his agency had “lost track” of 1,475 immigrant children who had been seized after crossing the US-Mexican border; some of these kids, it was feared, had been turned over to human traffickers.
That also:

The ACLU and the Human Rights Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School have also charged that US border guards beat and abused migrant children, and threatened them with sexual violence.

and...that a Honduran mother had been separated from her 18-month-old toddler for two months. We’ve seen images of children caged in cells like stray puppies at a shelter; two, three and four year old children huddled on cots under thin Mylar blankets; of weeping parents embracing their terrified children while immigration officers wait to grab the tearful kids.

One has to ask is this who we are? Is this who Lady Liberty shines her torch for? Wasn't this the country held out its arms to the downtrodden seeking refuge? now we pull children away from mothers, or family, as the Nazis did, pulling families apart?

Is this the way to go? or who we've become? There must be another way.

We use to be the country known for its humanitarian ways now we have the UN and foreign countries objecting to our inhumane practices. Welcome to the Trump administration and making us great again.
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as... (show quote)


OOPS! Boo-hoo! I'll buy you a box of Kleenex so you can wipe away those tears. I'm a father of 3 with 3 under age 16 grandchildren. But I'm sorry but you need to understand the LAWS OF THE LAND. It is the law of the land that citizens of this country are separated from their children when they commit a crime. Every state, county, city, town and hamlet does this when a parent/s commits a crime. That's law. So, when foreigners cross the border into our country without a visa - this is illegal AND A CRIME i.e., against the LAW. If they come with children, BY THE LAW, and as with American citizens, are separated from their children. So, the ACLU can file all the lawsuits they want, but unless Congress addresses the situation, THAT IS THE LAW.

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Jun 7, 2018 12:10:39   #
boatbob2
 
NO,dont separate the family,Send them ALL back to their home country.

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Jun 7, 2018 12:18:14   #
Mike Easterday
 
They are not supposed to be here illegally. Face the consequences of the illegal act!

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Jun 7, 2018 13:11:50   #
rational1
 
These are NOT illegal aliens seeking across the border. They report to US Border Agents and request "asylum" from danger and prosecution in their own country. There is a whole set of laws for Asylum candidates. If you all are unhappy with this system repeal all Asylum conditions, that means NO MOR CUBANS, they get automatic asylum when they reach US soil.
Oh, and take down the Statue of Liberty.

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Jun 7, 2018 13:36:11   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
rational1 wrote:
These are NOT illegal aliens seeking across the border. They report to US Border Agents and request "asylum" from danger and prosecution in their own country. There is a whole set of laws for Asylum candidates. If you all are unhappy with this system repeal all Asylum conditions, that means NO MOR CUBANS, they get automatic asylum when they reach US soil.
Oh, and take down the Statue of Liberty.


You're exactly correct, send the Cuban's back too...but the statue of liberty was meant for people who didn't have so much hatred for our Sovereignty, as the progressives, MS13, Radical muhammedest, and many other undesirable misfits.Let's send of these Reprobate's to places more suitable for their self Destruction..

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Jun 7, 2018 13:37:08   #
Hogback
 
Morgan wrote:
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as losing over 17,00 children, I have to ask myself, can this be true?

Last month, Steven Wagner, an official with the department of health and human services, told a Senate committee that his agency had “lost track” of 1,475 immigrant children who had been seized after crossing the US-Mexican border; some of these kids, it was feared, had been turned over to human traffickers.
That also:

The ACLU and the Human Rights Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School have also charged that US border guards beat and abused migrant children, and threatened them with sexual violence.

and...that a Honduran mother had been separated from her 18-month-old toddler for two months. We’ve seen images of children caged in cells like stray puppies at a shelter; two, three and four year old children huddled on cots under thin Mylar blankets; of weeping parents embracing their terrified children while immigration officers wait to grab the tearful kids.

One has to ask is this who we are? Is this who Lady Liberty shines her torch for? Wasn't this the country held out its arms to the downtrodden seeking refuge? now we pull children away from mothers, or family, as the Nazis did, pulling families apart?

Is this the way to go? or who we've become? There must be another way.

We use to be the country known for its humanitarian ways now we have the UN and foreign countries objecting to our inhumane practices. Welcome to the Trump administration and making us great again.
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as... (show quote)


The 1,475 lost children was was later discovered to have happened on Obama's watch. As far as tearing children away from their parents then what is your impression of the children of inmates. Every time our legal system sends somebody to prison we don't send the entire family. Every time a service member goes off to war we separate families. Some of the heroes sent off never return home. I don't really have a lot of compassion for parents who break the law buy coming to America and bring their children then complain when they are separated.

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Jun 7, 2018 13:37:20   #
Hogback
 
Morgan wrote:
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as losing over 17,00 children, I have to ask myself, can this be true?

Last month, Steven Wagner, an official with the department of health and human services, told a Senate committee that his agency had “lost track” of 1,475 immigrant children who had been seized after crossing the US-Mexican border; some of these kids, it was feared, had been turned over to human traffickers.
That also:

The ACLU and the Human Rights Clinic at the University of Chicago Law School have also charged that US border guards beat and abused migrant children, and threatened them with sexual violence.

and...that a Honduran mother had been separated from her 18-month-old toddler for two months. We’ve seen images of children caged in cells like stray puppies at a shelter; two, three and four year old children huddled on cots under thin Mylar blankets; of weeping parents embracing their terrified children while immigration officers wait to grab the tearful kids.

One has to ask is this who we are? Is this who Lady Liberty shines her torch for? Wasn't this the country held out its arms to the downtrodden seeking refuge? now we pull children away from mothers, or family, as the Nazis did, pulling families apart?

Is this the way to go? or who we've become? There must be another way.

We use to be the country known for its humanitarian ways now we have the UN and foreign countries objecting to our inhumane practices. Welcome to the Trump administration and making us great again.
I have read of some atrocities going on as such as... (show quote)

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