saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina

tbutkovich, The Justice Department is investigating Trump because there is so much circumstantial evidence against him, in spite of the most recent lies coming from the Donald. His son is certainly guilty of asking for help from the Russians getting dirt on the Hillary, and was caught telling lies about it. The entire country heard Donald ask the Russians for help on getting dirt on Hillary. Several former Trump lacks have been indicted and one has pleaded guilty. Only a fanatic Trump cultist could possibly believe that what went on in the Trump Towers was about Americans adopting Russian children, and what happened wasn't reported to the Donald. Trump Jr. has said that he can't remember anything about collusion with Russia OVER A HUNDRED TIMES! If there is nothing about collusion with Russia, why has Trump declared war on his own Justice Department, Mueller, and the entire FBI? Why has this president attacked the free press in this nation since he came to office? Why does he constantly lie about Obama planting bugs in his office and now the FBI inserting spies in his campaign staff? Thats just a tiny bit of the lies and treason committed by Donald and his administration. Why is Trump so pissed at his own Attorney General for recusing himself from the whole damned thing, which was proper and what he is supposed to do. Just let Mueller do his job, and watch the Donald flunkies give way to the Pence flunkies when this criminal is finally indicted!

JIM BETHEA

WELL Pres Trump just ordered the DOJ to initiate an investigation into the "Obama Administration Surveillance"...OK..Jeff Sessions, this is your que to take over "this one"....Can't say that Sessions is going after Hillary here, all he name may come into play....hee hee

tbutkovich

I can see the reluctance by Jeff Sessions to go after Hillary Clinton. Their are fifty dead bodies who mysteriously died who had a some interesting information the Clintons or who posed a threat To them. Jeff Sessions is worried about ending up face down in the Potomac which explains why he has not been very aggressive in going after them. In fact, that’s why even the FBI, CIA and DOJ are not moving on this. The Clintons are part of the elite mafia and the cowards who fail to act perpetuate these criminals.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Sessions will take one for the team one way or the other whether he wants to or not.

EconomistDon

The Justice Department is investigating Trump because there is so much circumstantial evidence against him, all of which was "created" by hateful, lying Democrats.

What is truly amazing is how Democrats and the liberal media dwell on this nonsense along with silliness about a porn star ten years ago, while they ignore the plethora of solid, not circumstantial, evidence of the vast Democrat conspiracy against Trump. We know that the Obama administration weaponized the IRS, the FBI, and the Justice Department against Trump beginning in early 2016, as soon as it was clear that Trump would win the Primary. We know that the FBI planted a spy in the Trump campaign and they wiretapped his organization. We know that they gave only the appearance of investigating Hillary, writing a summary report before they even interviewed her. We know that Hillary and the DNC colluded with the Russians to "manufacture" dirt on Trump and put it in a dossier that they used to get a FISA warrant. We know that the Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill on the tarmac was not about grandkids. We know that most of these things we done, by Comey's admission, because they truly believed that Hillary would be the next President. And nobody wants to cross Hillary. Doing so can be bad for your health. You could wind up dead, and it is really hard to recover from dead.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Gonna backfire big-time! More than anyone knows.

jelun

I suppose we should just ignore all of that public shout out for an assist or two.
What is that trick about hiding right out in the open?
Wasn't that the swami act that attracted so many to Trump? Dog whistles and a chunk of honesty about how
dirty his history had been?

tbutkovich

Sounds like the “espionage mole” was planted by the Department of Justice and guess who was in charge, no one other than the infamous Obama loyalist “Loretta Lynch.” Oh yes, wasn’t she was the “big bopper” who launched the “big whopper” that she met Bill Clinton on the tarmac in a Phoenix Airport to simply exchange funny stories about their grandkids. With Loretta flying in from San Francisco and Bill flying in from Los Angeles, the pilot says to Bill. “Loretta has some really funny stories about her grandkids that you’ve just got to hear.” Bill responds: “Okay tell her to land in Phoenix and she can tell me the stories on the tarmac. I’m so excited, I am shaking in my seat,”. Seriously!!!!

jelun

Interesting that you don't understand that AG Sessions is sidelined on this, it is about Russia.
Rod Rosenstein will take care of directing the investigation.

jelun

You must have missed the investigation lessons when you studied police work.
You don't decide that there was a mole and then work forward.
You find out what happened.
You sound like Devon Nunes.
If you don't believe that two people can talk about their grandkids and golf for a hour or so, I feel sorry for you.

tbutkovich

I find that your position is clear: “When the facts don’t fit the theory, you change the facts.” Very typical of the left!

EconomistDon

Of course it was just a coincidence that Bill and Loretta wound up at the same airport at the same time. Heck, when I fly, I run into Bill and Loretta all the time. ----- NOT. You are so gullible. Or shall we say you are in denial.

JIM BETHEA

Just think..they didn't want any of the FBI, Secret Service or any photographers to listen as to what they were saying about their grand kids or any of Bill's secret golf tips...

Believe this and I can give you some good leads on where to buy some Timeshare deals...lol

tbutkovich

The democrats and left wing media and their supporters, namely you “Jelum” have the following interpretation of my last statement: When the facts don’t fit the narrative, change the facts. So the tarmac meeting between Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton whose fundamental purpose was to “subvert the national election” had the actual purpose and content revised so the American people would hopefully embrace the false narrative to read that these two thugs were simply talking about “grand kids and golf”. Democratic Objective: “EXPLOIT THE IGNORANT!” With false narratives of the DNC and the media’s habitual lies, they expected to retain political power which would then give them the means to collect the hard earned taxpayer money and squander it to enrich themselves and their pals. They preached their lies to the true victims of this grand scheme, the poor and middle class, the blacks and Hispanics. They spent $10 Trillion To enrich themselves at the expense of the poor and middle class who were burdened by the exhorbitant cost of living. There was never a budget, because they did not want the American people to know how their taxes were being spent. “They are liars, cheaters and crooks and you, Jelun, bow down to them and kiss their feet.”

Bug58

These things have been under investigation since before Trump was inaugurated into office in Jan 2017, the Democrats demanded the IG investigate these things (weren't people paying attention??) Jeff Session's appointed Huber as AG to work parallel to Horowitz, they even have a Grand Jury in place, separate from the Mueller grand jury. It would be great if people actually paid attention to what's going on..


"There has been a great deal of consternation, directed toward AG Jeff Sessions surrounding the ongoing FISA abuse scandal and the larger issues of unlawful DOJ and FBI conduct in their political investigation of candidate Donald Trump. It is a matter of great division amid people who follow the details. Yet there is overwhelming evidence he assigned a prosecutor to conduct a criminal investigation of the FBI and DOJ “small group” a long time ago. Now we know, with certainty, a GRAND JURY is impaneled.

… I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us; and we’re conducting that investigation.

First, the question: If Jeff Sessions has appointed a prosecutor to work with Inspector General Horowitz, why do congressional reps keep asking for a second special counsel?

The answer is a lot simpler than we might think: They don’t know.

The legislative branch of the government doesn’t know what the criminal investigations are of the executive branch of government; AND AG Jeff Sessions has repeatedly said his intention is to restore the proper, appropriate and professional standards of the U.S. Department of Justice. (ie. no talking about criminal investigations)

Within this specific investigation there is a triple role. ¹A DOJ Inspector General conducting an internal investigation; ² Appropriate congressional oversight; and ³ the collection of evidence that might also be used in criminal indictments.

Within the IG collection of evidence there are two competing issues: #1) Evidence of misconduct and political bias (shared openly with congress and oversight); and #2) evidence of illegal activity (retained from congress to preserve integrity of evidence for later used in criminal proceedings); this is where the “outside DC prosecutor” comes in.

Which brings us to point #2

Accusations of DOJ hiding evidence from congress.

Several congressional representatives have stated the information about Judge Rudolph Contreras was not readily know because his association with Peter Strzok was redacted within text messages sent from DOJ to congress. Therefore the DOJ is trying to hide damaging information. That claim is not the correct framework/context.

Congress as a whole (reps, staff and investigators) can go to the DOJ and look at ALL unredacted text messages. However, if congressional staff wish to take copies with them the copies must be redacted. Why? Because, just like the Contreras issue within the Strzok and Page text messages, there’s a possibility specific texts are evidence of a crime.

Go back to December 2nd, 2017, when the first reports of the IG investigative findings were hitting the news media and you’ll note IG Horowitz said he has no issues with congressional oversight getting his investigative evidence with the approval FROM the DOJ. In this example the “prosecutor”, working with Horowitz, has to make a determination if a potential criminal case would be compromised by allowing the release of specific information/evidence gathered by the Inspector General.

Lastly, where all this appears to be going. It is not likely there will be a ‘second special counsel’ per se’. With a prosecutor already working with Inspector General Horowitz that person already has a thorough knowledge of all the evidence. As soon as the IG publishes his report, the prosecutor can begin subpoenaing witnesses. And now we know there’s already a Grand Jury seated somewhere hearing the criminal evidence he/she has carved out from the overwhelming IG evidence as collected.

You and I might be frustrated with the pace of the activity for a myriad of righteous reasons. However, we must also remind ourselves of the scale and scope of the corruption here that is inherent within the BIG PICTURE. All of this was done on purpose. None of this was accidental.

The prosecutor could, likely would, be having to outline the biggest political conspiracy in the history of politics. It is entirely possible officials within the CIA, NSA, DOJ, FBI, State Department, ODNI, and national security apparatus along with the Obama White House, Clinton campaign officials, politicians, career bureaucrats and possibly judges are all entwined and involved.

Just look at the media reaction to Andrew McCabe’s simple firing, which Trump had nothing to do with, and think about what their response would be to indictments?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/22/giddy-up-doj-admits-they-have-a-grand-jury-empaneled-in-fbi-and-doj-investigation/