BigMike wrote:
So! Do you think folks like me should be denied the vote?
Commit a felony and lose all rights of citizenship. It may seem unfair but it is equally unfair for the victims of crime. So, in answer to your question, yes, you gave up your right to vote when you elected to commit the offences that sent you to prison.
If you care, you can still campaign for your choices, raise your voice for them and deliver their flyers, door to door if you wish.
BigMike wrote:
So! Do you think folks like me should be denied the vote?
Depends on why you went to prison and how long ago it was.....
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As Far as Im concerned BigMike, since you paid your dues I fully support your right to vote, be able carry a weapon if you chose to and quite frankly enjoy every right under the constitution like anybody else! If anyone here on OPP or anywhere for that matter thinks otherwise thats their issue not yours. I have family members that were in and out of prison for mistakes they made, but got back on the right path so to speak, meaning all laws are followed just like the rest of us slugs on the razor blade of life! Please remember my PM to you. Take good care
BigMike
Semper Fi
BigMike wrote:
So! Do you think folks like me should be denied the vote?
proud republican wrote:
What do you guys think???
I think Sheriff Arpaio had the right idea. Why should they have a say in matters concerning society, when they can't stay IN society?
BigMike wrote:
I was in prison...twice. I vote because I care.
Most career criminals wouldn't do anything that involved ID and official paperwork. NO!
I was a correctional officer for 17 years. A good place to read and study the Bible, if you really want to reform. I often did an informal survey and most said they had never voted but if they did it would be for DEMs. The ones I saw studying their Bibles said GOP. Those that read the Koran just stayed mean and nasty. They were worse than the gang bangers, mostly illegals. With the gangs, you just went to the leader and said, tell inmate, so and so, to chill out with the traffic and trading or we'll toss your cell every day and strip search you five times every time you go anywhere. It usually worked like a charm, especially in winter. If the crash test dummies refused to comply they got solitary or shipped out to another unit as far away from their families as possible. I always tried my best to treat them all the same and with respect, but to some, that's a signal for weakness. When they heard I was retiring a lot of them pleaded with me not to go. They almost changed my mind. I still miss a bunch of them. But supervisors were the reason I retired not the inmates. Glad your out and that you vote.
The demonbrats want to lower the voting age to 16, institute sharia law, allow illegals two votes, tax hard working Americans until they have propagandized them to hand over their whole pay check, allow rapists, gang bangers, drug lords, and felons to rule our streets and communities, allow the criminals to own guns while disarming lawabiding citizens, and expedite the immigration of unvetted hard core islamic terrorists with their kalishnakov's to run roughshod over all honest, hardworking citizens. Never, ever vote demonbratic, the totalitarian, obstructionist and regressive, anti American marxist party.
woodguru wrote:
No worse than people in retirement homes being able to vote, they are still citizens even if someone has to tell them how to vote and do it for them, Lol
That's true. I have seen the demonbrats roll up to nursing homes in their huge vans, offer hot donuts and coffee from Starbucks, the racist anti conservative coffee house, and then transport them to polling places to cast their vote on George Soros's rigged voting machines that convert any Repub vote to a demonbrat vote. The system is rigged to allow for demonbrats to win an election illegally. In spite of all the corruption by the demonbrats, hitlary rotten clinton still took a good a-s whipping by Trump so that goes to show you how a demonbrat would never, ever win an election if they played by the rule book, which they never do !!!
drlarrygino wrote:
That's true. I have seen the demonbrats roll up to nursing homes in their huge vans, offer hot donuts and coffee from Starbucks, the racist anti conservative coffee house, and then transport them to polling places to cast their vote on George Soros's rigged voting machines that convert any Repub vote to a demonbrat vote. The system is rigged to allow for demonbrats to win an election illegally. In spite of all the corruption by the demonbrats, hitlary rotten clinton still took a good a-s whipping by Trump so that goes to show you how a demonbrat would never, ever win an election if they played by the rule book, which they never do !!!
That's true. I have seen the demonbrats roll up to... (
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Don't forget....99% of dead people vote Democrat!!
proud republican wrote:
What do you guys think???
As long as they are a citizen they should be able to vote, even when they are in prison.
snowbear37 wrote:
I think Sheriff Arpaio had the right idea. Why should they have a say in matters concerning society, when they can't stay IN society?
He got a pardon for his felony why shouldn’t they?
Why do absentee military ballots always seem to get lost in DEM controlled states?
JW wrote:
Commit a felony and lose all rights of citizenship. It may seem unfair but it is equally unfair for the victims of crime. So, in answer to your question, yes, you gave up your right to vote when you elected to commit the offences that sent you to prison.
If you care, you can still campaign for your choices, raise your voice for them and deliver their flyers, door to door if you wish.
The Constitution does not provide an avenue where rights may be revoked, it does provide guidance for criminal justice. A crime is alleged, yet the Constitution proclaims them innocent until proven guilty. Guilt is established, so a court of law determines a sentence, but we aren't satisfied with that - and impose a lifetime sentence regardless of the nature of the crime.
Felons may not vote, own firearms, get bonded, many ineligible for student grants or loans, get into government assisted housing, get into ANY kind of housing, are barred from most jobs.............and the list goes on. After a convict is released on parole/finishes their sentence, we demand that they obey all laws and become productive members of society - and do so with both hands tied behind their back. Many do manage to do that, 87% of them do not. Our society is not geared to reward the poor or disadvantaged, but is geared to keep them dependent, and for most felons - that means going back to crime and prison.
Voting is just one of the rights our society penalizes folks with ex parte. Why are elected officials and high ranking bureaucrats allowed to resign ( and draw Gov. pensions ), when accused/caught committing offences that would turn an ordinary citizen into a convicted felon? The answer is simple; there is a hierarchy in criminal justice, with those LEAST likely to have the capacity to overcome the built in disadvantages associated with a criminal conviction...................receiving the harshest punishments and the most disadvantages. Remember this - second class citizens will ACT like second class citizens, so - how should we expect NO class citizens to act?
Kevyn wrote:
He got a pardon for his felony why shouldn’t they?
Arpaio got a felony conviction for enforcing Federal law. You on the other hand got yours for mopery with intent to gawk. Seriously different charges.
proud republican wrote:
What do you guys think???
Yes, they should be allowed to vote..
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