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Feb 24, 2018 10:35:21   #
dongreen76
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ban on military style weapons would really impede their lifestyle................so I asked. It turns out that these weapons make very poor hunting tools, and the owners of such also had the appropriate hunting weapons in their arsenals. The consensus appears to be, that these military type weapons are for "self defense", so I asked "against what or whom?". Here's what they said;

Defense against home invaders. When I pointed out that a rifle bullet could pass through a wall easily and kill a member of their own family or neighbor, they appeared not to have considered that. Oh well.

Defend against the Government - in case they come after their weapons. When I asked how they thought they'd fare against armed military personnel, they appeared not to have given that much thought. Yeah, big deal.

Defend against armed invasion when the shit hits the fan. Yep, "Preppers", or near enough, except the folks around here don't have the secret underground shelters and huge stocks of food, etc. They just don't like the idea of a neighbor stealing their stuff after a major catastrophe. When I pointed that that all their neighbors were similarly armed, and it would be a toss up about who would survive such an exchange, they appeared not to have thought that far. Huh.

Defend against everybody else who is similarly armed. I think we've pretty much covered that already.

Since their reasoning was marginal at best, the only logical conclusion is that they want these types of weapons because they're cool............and some folks don't want them to have them. I suspect my youngest son ( who has more than one assault weapon. How many can you use at once? ), feels that owning them makes his balls bigger. I did disabuse him of that notion a little bit. We had a timed test, where he tried to take me out with his bushmaster, while I defended with my Katana............I marked him 3 times before he could jack a round and take the safety off.
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ba... (show quote)

He's paranoid , it goes a little deeper than just being cool,or the manly thing to be,theres a psychological aspect of the situation.The aforementioned statement of his paranoia,I take it back.What he wants to be prepared for is founded,as we are going ,it is coming to fruition;you're only paranoid if you imagine a ominous threatening scenario,if it exist,you are not paranoid ;as to whom is responsible for such a dark apocalyptic manifestation.... well,blame on the boogie.

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Feb 24, 2018 10:40:03   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
archie bunker wrote:
Why does anyone need a katana anyway?


If they're really proficient, swatting flies maybe?

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Feb 24, 2018 14:59:07   #
JoyV
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ban on military style weapons would really impede their lifestyle................so I asked. It turns out that these weapons make very poor hunting tools, and the owners of such also had the appropriate hunting weapons in their arsenals. The consensus appears to be, that these military type weapons are for "self defense", so I asked "against what or whom?". Here's what they said;

Defense against home invaders. When I pointed out that a rifle bullet could pass through a wall easily and kill a member of their own family or neighbor, they appeared not to have considered that. Oh well.

Defend against the Government - in case they come after their weapons. When I asked how they thought they'd fare against armed military personnel, they appeared not to have given that much thought. Yeah, big deal.

Defend against armed invasion when the shit hits the fan. Yep, "Preppers", or near enough, except the folks around here don't have the secret underground shelters and huge stocks of food, etc. They just don't like the idea of a neighbor stealing their stuff after a major catastrophe. When I pointed that that all their neighbors were similarly armed, and it would be a toss up about who would survive such an exchange, they appeared not to have thought that far. Huh.

Defend against everybody else who is similarly armed. I think we've pretty much covered that already.

Since their reasoning was marginal at best, the only logical conclusion is that they want these types of weapons because they're cool............and some folks don't want them to have them. I suspect my youngest son ( who has more than one assault weapon. How many can you use at once? ), feels that owning them makes his balls bigger. I did disabuse him of that notion a little bit. We had a timed test, where he tried to take me out with his bushmaster, while I defended with my Katana............I marked him 3 times before he could jack a round and take the safety off.
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ba... (show quote)



How about defense against armed illegal alien smugglers. At least some who have already murdered neighboring ranchers. Before you were close enough to use your katana, it would be far too late.

But my first line of alarm and defense is 4 big German Shepherd Dogs. These are predominantly a deterrent and I haven't had to use a firearm yet. Although when an armed group is passing through in clear view of my home, I stay out of sight and call Border Patrol. Before the German Shepherd dogs, they more than once left the trail and broke into the main house on the property. The previous guard dog was an American Pit Bull Terrier which was shot at multiple times. Either they have bad aim or don't realize how fast a dog can move. With the GSDs, and that there are 4 of them; they have kept moving as fast as the packers can go until well passed. If they tried to shoot one of the shepherds, especially if the hit it; the others would be all over them. They would not be able to mow the dogs down without shooting each other. My dogs have tackled jaguars, mountain lions, and bears which came too close to the house. The only predator I worry more about them tackling than illegal smugglers is river javelina.

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Feb 24, 2018 15:03:01   #
JoyV
 
schwabbie28 wrote:
Au contraire, Mr. Florio. It is SOCIETY’s business what kinds of lethal items you own, and use. This applies to various modalities of death, such as explosives, vehicles driven at excessive speeds, the proof” or strength of the whiskey you drink, the machine guns or tanks you want to buy, etc., etc. Your freedom to act ends at the point of your fellow citizens` lives and property. Please engage in some critical thinking.


But unless you are engaging in activity which negatively impacts your fellow citizens; its none of society's business!

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Feb 25, 2018 05:49:43   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
son of witless wrote:
Do you believe that a ban on these guns will result in less school shootings ?


No, or any other shootings.
A ban on gun free zones maybe.
And, a ban on wackos.

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Feb 25, 2018 06:16:20   #
Big Kahuna
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ban on military style weapons would really impede their lifestyle................so I asked. It turns out that these weapons make very poor hunting tools, and the owners of such also had the appropriate hunting weapons in their arsenals. The consensus appears to be, that these military type weapons are for "self defense", so I asked "against what or whom?". Here's what they said;

Defense against home invaders. When I pointed out that a rifle bullet could pass through a wall easily and kill a member of their own family or neighbor, they appeared not to have considered that. Oh well.

Defend against the Government - in case they come after their weapons. When I asked how they thought they'd fare against armed military personnel, they appeared not to have given that much thought. Yeah, big deal.

Defend against armed invasion when the shit hits the fan. Yep, "Preppers", or near enough, except the folks around here don't have the secret underground shelters and huge stocks of food, etc. They just don't like the idea of a neighbor stealing their stuff after a major catastrophe. When I pointed that that all their neighbors were similarly armed, and it would be a toss up about who would survive such an exchange, they appeared not to have thought that far. Huh.

Defend against everybody else who is similarly armed. I think we've pretty much covered that already.

Since their reasoning was marginal at best, the only logical conclusion is that they want these types of weapons because they're cool............and some folks don't want them to have them. I suspect my youngest son ( who has more than one assault weapon. How many can you use at once? ), feels that owning them makes his balls bigger. I did disabuse him of that notion a little bit. We had a timed test, where he tried to take me out with his bushmaster, while I defended with my Katana............I marked him 3 times before he could jack a round and take the safety off.
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ba... (show quote)

Ipnminor, I assume you would rather have a bullet go thru your body thanh have it go thru an intruders body! You are so full of it!

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Feb 25, 2018 06:35:44   #
billy a Loc: South Florida
 
If I could afford to own a 57' Chevy,I would. If I could find the bayonet my Dad lost in Belgium in 1944, I'd buy it.If I could somehow own the guillotine that lopped off Mariie Antoinette's melon,I would. Why? Very simple;they are cool things.That's all.Just neat stuff.An assault-style weapon would not be my first choice of protection,but it would be an interesting addition to my collection.I'm an American,and appreciate things that people talk about.A.R.'s are still legal,so I'm picking one up for the simple pleasure of owning one. No big deal. Peace.

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Feb 25, 2018 07:29:23   #
son of witless
 
America 1 wrote:
No, or any other shootings.
A ban on gun free zones maybe.
And, a ban on wackos.


What will happen is that once you ban certain types of guns, the murderers will switch to another type and they will ban that type. As if the type of gun is important. Soon the banners will get what they want and all guns will be banned.

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Feb 25, 2018 07:54:31   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
byronglimish wrote:
So you can defeat any one wielding a gun, with a katana?


From 200 yards, no less. Ninja!

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Feb 25, 2018 08:37:49   #
Buford Loc: Arizona
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ban on military style weapons would really impede their lifestyle................so I asked. It turns out that these weapons make very poor hunting tools, and the owners of such also had the appropriate hunting weapons in their arsenals. The consensus appears to be, that these military type weapons are for "self defense", so I asked "against what or whom?". Here's what they said;

Defense against home invaders. When I pointed out that a rifle bullet could pass through a wall easily and kill a member of their own family or neighbor, they appeared not to have considered that. Oh well.

Defend against the Government - in case they come after their weapons. When I asked how they thought they'd fare against armed military personnel, they appeared not to have given that much thought. Yeah, big deal.

Defend against armed invasion when the shit hits the fan. Yep, "Preppers", or near enough, except the folks around here don't have the secret underground shelters and huge stocks of food, etc. They just don't like the idea of a neighbor stealing their stuff after a major catastrophe. When I pointed that that all their neighbors were similarly armed, and it would be a toss up about who would survive such an exchange, they appeared not to have thought that far. Huh.

Defend against everybody else who is similarly armed. I think we've pretty much covered that already.

Since their reasoning was marginal at best, the only logical conclusion is that they want these types of weapons because they're cool............and some folks don't want them to have them. I suspect my youngest son ( who has more than one assault weapon. How many can you use at once? ), feels that owning them makes his balls bigger. I did disabuse him of that notion a little bit. We had a timed test, where he tried to take me out with his bushmaster, while I defended with my Katana............I marked him 3 times before he could jack a round and take the safety off.
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ba... (show quote)



None of your business what I own.
Try staying out of my business and leave my rights alone.

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Feb 25, 2018 09:08:34   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
archie bunker wrote:
In other words, you think we don't "need" them, so what's the big deal? Right?
Well, that could be applied to a gazillion other things too if you think about it, couldn't it?

As for weapons making your balls bigger, I would be pushing mine around in a wheelbarrow if that were true.


Lololololol, Archhhhhhhhhhhhhh , egads this is just funny!!! Pushing them around in a wheelbarrow !!!!

What gets me about all of this is the need of others to tell we shouldnt like guns, we should give them up, we should blah, blah, blah ..

Why are they so compelled to dictate what we do, have and enjoy?? We dont go around telling them what they should do and like or call them names like whimp, or stupid for not wanting to protect themselves etc..

You like the security a weapon offers, great, you don’t like them, great, but shut the hell up about my Second amendment right and go do something else to waste your time away!!! Maybe include abprayer everyday they arent attacked or their home isn't broken into or a rapist isnt trying to get in etc..Like Morgans comment~~ well since we people that own weapons can’t handle them she can be just as extreme in saying no one should own any.... The logic of some simply amuses me..

Let anything actually go on and those unprotected people will be looking for help then!!

Here are some quotes from our founding fathers. ..Ive kept it for some time now~~

free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824
"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823

Isnt it a shame that these Zealous progressives dont mind their own business or remember what these men say about our rights!!
Let government take one away and the rest just become that easier to do!!

I’ll be keeping my guns and ammo which I just bought more of.. Heck of a sale going on right now, I wonder why???

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Feb 25, 2018 09:30:25   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
lindajoy wrote:
I’ll be keeping my guns and ammo which I just bought more of.. Heck of a sale going on right now, I wonder why???


Which is your favorite? I have a S&W Model 19 that just kicks ass, and it's very accurate.

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Feb 25, 2018 09:36:53   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
From 200 yards, no less. Ninja!


😁.

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Feb 25, 2018 10:59:54   #
Big dog
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ban on military style weapons would really impede their lifestyle................so I asked. It turns out that these weapons make very poor hunting tools, and the owners of such also had the appropriate hunting weapons in their arsenals. The consensus appears to be, that these military type weapons are for "self defense", so I asked "against what or whom?". Here's what they said;

Defense against home invaders. When I pointed out that a rifle bullet could pass through a wall easily and kill a member of their own family or neighbor, they appeared not to have considered that. Oh well.

Defend against the Government - in case they come after their weapons. When I asked how they thought they'd fare against armed military personnel, they appeared not to have given that much thought. Yeah, big deal.

Defend against armed invasion when the shit hits the fan. Yep, "Preppers", or near enough, except the folks around here don't have the secret underground shelters and huge stocks of food, etc. They just don't like the idea of a neighbor stealing their stuff after a major catastrophe. When I pointed that that all their neighbors were similarly armed, and it would be a toss up about who would survive such an exchange, they appeared not to have thought that far. Huh.

Defend against everybody else who is similarly armed. I think we've pretty much covered that already.

Since their reasoning was marginal at best, the only logical conclusion is that they want these types of weapons because they're cool............and some folks don't want them to have them. I suspect my youngest son ( who has more than one assault weapon. How many can you use at once? ), feels that owning them makes his balls bigger. I did disabuse him of that notion a little bit. We had a timed test, where he tried to take me out with his bushmaster, while I defended with my Katana............I marked him 3 times before he could jack a round and take the safety off.
I as curious about why some folks insist that a ba... (show quote)


I think you should look at some of the guns the civilians were carrying when the government decided to "Back Down" at the Bundy Ranch Stand Off. Being out numbered and facing weapons of equal lethality, the Jack Booted Thugs of the BLM and FBI decided it simply wasn't in their interest to bleed that day.
That day at the Ranch is a PRIME example as to Why we have the 2nd Amendment.

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Feb 25, 2018 11:11:01   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Big dog wrote:
I think you should look at some of the guns the civilians were carrying when the government decided to "Back Down" at the Bundy Ranch Stand Off. Being out numbered and facing weapons of equal lethality, the Jack Booted Thugs of the BLM and FBI decided it simply wasn't in their interest to bleed that day.
That day at the Ranch is a PRIME example as to Why we have the 2nd Amendment.


Congratulations. You just put paid to every anti- second amendment argument ever. Think it made a dent? I doubt it. He'll come back and call the Bundy's a criminal enterprise or similar, you watch.

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