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Dec 2, 2017 08:20:04   #
Richard Rowland
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
I was laughing at you posting that Israeli soldiers were killing Palestinians execution style. That is extremely farcical.


I wonder what you'll have to say if it becomes evident that it did, in fact, happen. Found it! Here's what you find so hilarious, Poppa.

March 25, 2016 8:01PM EDT

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Israel/Palestine: Summary Execution of Wounded Palestinian
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(Jerusalem) – The open and casual way that a soldier appears to execute a wounded, prone Palestinian, which was captured on video, suggests a dangerous climate of impunity for war crimes. The soldier fired an assault rifle at the head of a man identified as Abd al-Fatah al-Sharif, on March 24, 2016 in the West Bank city of Hebron, after al-Sharif and another man allegedly stabbed and wounded an Israeli soldier, the Israeli rights group B’tselem and local media reported.

“The video of al-Sharif’s killing by an Israeli soldier shows both an apparent cold-blooded murder and numerous witnesses, which should make for a strong legal case,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director. “The question is whether Israeli authorities will do what they haven’t done in countless other cases and bring the alleged killer to justice.”

The Israeli military said it was investigating the incident and had detained the soldier, but the military rarely prosecutes military personnel implicated in alleged war crimes. The laws of war apply to situations where there is a clear nexus to Israel’s military occupation of the West Bank.

B’Tselem said in a statement that one of its Palestinian volunteers had filmed the incident. After Al-Sharif and Ramzi al-Qasrawi, both reportedly 21-years-old, allegedly stabbed an Israeli soldier, soldiers fatally shot al-Qasrawi and wounded al-Sharif, B’Tselem and local media reported.

The video shows al-Sharif and al-Qasrawi lying immobile on the street. They are ignored by a group of soldiers, Israeli settlers, and an Israeli ambulance crew attending to an Israeli man – apparently the soldier who had been stabbed, sitting up on a gurney. In the video, unidentified voices, speaking in Hebrew, can be heard saying: “Listen this dog is alive. Get it in their heads, sapper [combat engineer]. He deserves it.”

One soldier appears to briefly speak with another soldier, raises his assault rifle, walks toward al-Sharif and, after two other soldiers step back out of the way, shoots al-Sharif in the head from a few meters away. Another video circulated on social media shows a soldier push al-Qasrawi's body with his foot to roll it over.

The B’Tselem volunteer who filmed the video, Imad Abu Shamsiyyeh, told Human Rights Watch in a phone interview that Israeli forces had threatened him both at the scene and later, when he went to give a statement to the military. A few minutes after he filmed the shooting from the roof of a nearby building, he said, “more journalists gathered on the roof, and the Israeli soldiers noticed us. They pointed their guns at us and screamed at us to get down. Soldiers came into the building and told the [owner] not to allow people there or the family would pay the price.”

Abu Shamsiyyeh said that after B’Tselem shared the video with military investigators, the military asked him to give a statement. During questioning at a military office in Hebron, Abu Shamsiyyeh said he felt the interrogator was trying to intimidate him to make him say that he had not filmed the video:

He told me, ‘How will you benefit from this video? It got a lot of publicity. Your name is known to everyone. Who is going to protect you and your family from right-wing Israelis? Remember you live in [Tel Rumeida], surrounded by Israeli settlers, who will be able to protect you there?’ I felt that I was being threatened. They took the original footage from me.
Abu Shamsiyyeh said he had received two phone calls on March 24 from a Hebrew-speaker, calling from a private number, but did not understand what was said. “I feel in danger and my children are afraid,” Abu Shamsiyyeh told Human Rights Watch. “I’m not letting them out of the house. I’m afraid of walking in the street.”

The soldier who shot al-Sharif told family members, after his arrest by military police, that he feared that al-Sharif was wearing an explosive vest and might detonate it, the Jerusalem Post reported.

Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu condemned al-Sharif’s killing. He said that, “What happened in Hebron does not represent the values of the Israel Defense Forces.” Military chief of staff Lt. Gen. Gadi Eisenkot reportedly stated last month that the military “must not speak in catchphrases such as ‘whoever comes to slay you, slay him first,’ or state that anyone holding a knife or a pair of scissors must be killed.”

However, other statements from Israeli military and political leaders indicated that the security forces should kill Palestinians who attack Israelis. In November 2014, Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon said, “Anyone who comes to kill Jews must be eliminated. Any terrorist who raises a gun, knife, or rock, tries to run over or otherwise attack Jews, must be put to death, depending on the circumstances.” Minister of Public Security Gilad Erdan said, “Every terrorist must know that he will not survive the attack he is about to perpetrate.”

Human Rights Watch has documented the Israeli military’s poor record of accountability for dozens of apparently unlawful killings of Palestinians in the West Bank and showed how internal investigations are often nothing more than a sham. For instance, the Israeli military has not indicted anyone for the killing of Abd al-Rahman Abdallah, 13, whom Israeli forces shot in the chest at a demonstration in Bethlehem, or for the shooting of Fadi Alloun, 19, whom security forces shot in Jerusalem while he posed no apparent threat, both in October 2015. In multiple cases since the increase in violence in the West Bank that began in October, Israeli forces killed Palestinians who had carried out attacks or attempted to, in circumstances in which they could have been arrested.

As of March 21, Palestinians have killed 24 Israelis, including members of the security forces, and Israelis have killed 181 Palestinians in various incidents on the West Bank since October, based on United Nations data. Human Rights Watch has repeatedly condemned Palestinian attacks against Israeli civilians.

Israeli authorities should impartially investigate, fairly prosecute and appropriately punish soldiers convicted in the killing of al-Sharif, Human Rights Watch said. They should also investigate the circumstances of the killing of al-Qasrawi. The Israel Defense Forces and Prime Minister Netanyahu should publicly denounce any unlawful killings of Palestinians, revamp the training of the military for high-tension situations with Palestinian civilians, and implement a system-wide reform of the military’s investigation and prosecution of personnel implicated in serious violations of international law.

“Despite Netanyahu’s prompt condemnation of the killing of al-Sharif, the question remains whether Israeli officials will continue to encourage an environment in which Palestinians can be unlawfully killed,” Whitson said. “Without a wholesale transformation of the Israel Defense Force’s culture of impunity, and without serious measures of accountability, including holding commanders responsible for the instructions they give soldiers, we can expect such crimes to continue.”

Correction:

An earlier version of this news release had mistakenly reported that Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon made this statement in October 2015. The statement was made in November 2014.

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Dec 2, 2017 10:21:11   #
payne1000
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I find it interesting that every time I post something with Israel or Jews as the subject, it's like swatting a hornet's nest. For out flies ole' emarine and blade runner. I wonder what blade runner and emarine would be saying if the Palestinians were attempting to censor Israeli propaganda.

Blade runner has posted a few URLs which I assume, one is supposed to find questionable. My question, if the Palestinian videos are phony, why to worry? The fact that Isreal is attempting censorship only serves to cause one with a bit of thinking process to question that perhaps they are hiding something. Censorship is the tool of repressors, does that tell anyone anything?
I find it interesting that every time I post somet... (show quote)


Ole emarine and Blade Runner both claim they aren't Jews but they refuse to reveal their identities to back up their denials.
Anonymity is the refuge of liars. Palestinians could not possibly censor Israeli propaganda. Jews own all the mainstream media.

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Dec 2, 2017 10:33:03   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Well Rich... one mans ceiling is another mans floor... again lets cut to the chase... Jews & Israeli Arabs teach children math & science in Israel... Hamas teaches death, murder & war to their young... who is morally just?...when you post Muslim extremist propaganda seeking pity for the injured or dead Palestinian child...but was he murdered or Martyred... seems Arab extremists don't care when kids explode in public places as long as they kill as many Jew's as possible... I've spent almost 3 years researching both sides of this issue... This all boils down to religious freedom VS religious hate... its all about what you choose to teach your children... now who's just & who's unjust?... who's the freedom fighter & who's the terrorist?...
Well Rich... one mans ceiling is another mans floo... (show quote)


How can you spend 3 years researching the Israel/Palestine situation without realizing that the Palestinians are being occupied by the Israelis and bombed to oblivion anytime Israel chooses.
The Zionists have been the terrorists from the beginning, bombing the King David Hotel, killing 91, including 17 Jews. Zionist terrorists also assassinated Count Folke Bernadotte, Swedish diplomat who was appointed mediator between the Arabs and Jews. The Jewish terrorists thought the Count was favoring the Arabs. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=count+bernadette+assassination+Israel#id=1&vid=fa4b96e04e55d438d7d92f1eb1cdf6e9&action=view



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Dec 2, 2017 11:16:41   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Oh joy, putting the word "Israel" or "Jew" in a thread title is like baiting a hook. Guaranteed to catch OPP's very own anti-Semitic conspiracy nut. Yep, before we're done here, we'll probably hear about the nuclear destruction of tall buildings in New York and high flying jets spraying poison into the atmosphere and that Auschwitz was a Jewish summer resort in Poland run by a benevolent organization called Nazis.

Funny thing about those Palestinians, they never were a culture or a race or a recognized ethnicity, there never was a country or culture called Palestine. There is no evidence whatsoever, archeological or historical, that Palestinians existed before 1920. So, you have to wonder how in the world the "Palestinians are being occupied".

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Dec 2, 2017 11:31:41   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I see our resident bigot showed up after being baited by Dick. Good for them. So boring to burn a cross all by yourself.
Blade_Runner wrote:
Oh joy, putting the word "Israel" or "Jew" in a thread title is like baiting a hook. Guaranteed to catch OPP's very own anti-Semitic conspiracy nut. Yep, before we're done here, we'll probably hear about the nuclear destruction of tall buildings in New York and high flying jets spraying poison into the atmosphere and that Auschwitz was a Jewish summer resort in Poland run by a benevolent organization called Nazis.

Funny thing about those Palestinians, they never were a culture or a race or a recognized ethnicity, there never was a country or culture called Palestine. There is no evidence whatsoever, archeological or historical, that Palestinians existed before 1920. So, you have to wonder how in the world the "Palestinians are being occupied".
Oh joy, putting the word "Israel" or &qu... (show quote)

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Dec 2, 2017 11:35:18   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
Like I said, Blade Runner, I'm just posting different points of views from yours. And why are you speaking for PoppaGringo, I didn't address my post to you.
This isn't a matter of differences of opinion or points of view, anti-Semitism has been with us for a very long time, the consequences of which have been devastating for a very small group of people. Anti-Semitism is making a come back, it is definitely on the rise, and you seem compelled to give it a nudge. Hell of a point of view there, dick.

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Dec 2, 2017 11:36:14   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Oh joy, putting the word "Israel" or "Jew" in a thread title is like baiting a hook. Guaranteed to catch OPP's very own anti-Semitic conspiracy nut. Yep, before we're done here, we'll probably hear about the nuclear destruction of tall buildings in New York and high flying jets spraying poison into the atmosphere and that Auschwitz was a Jewish summer resort in Poland run by a benevolent organization called Nazis.

Funny thing about those Palestinians, they never were a culture or a race or a recognized ethnicity, there never was a country or culture called Palestine. There is no evidence whatsoever, archeological or historical, that Palestinians existed before 1920. So, you have to wonder how in the world the "Palestinians are being occupied".
Oh joy, putting the word "Israel" or &qu... (show quote)


Maybe you should listen to a Jewish historian on how Palestinians are being occupied. Professor Leibowitz has an identity and professional credibility. You have neither on this forum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zM2fXTkjU2E



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Dec 2, 2017 11:40:13   #
payne1000
 
JFlorio wrote:
I see our resident bigot showed up after being baited by Dick. Good for them. So boring to burn a cross all by yourself.


Exposing horrible crimes committed by Judeo Nazis is not bigotry nor is it cross burning.
Florio doesn't sound Jewish. Are you a Christian Zionist?

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Dec 2, 2017 11:44:22   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
This isn't a matter of differences of opinion or points of view, anti-Semitism has been with us for a very long time, the consequences of which have been devastating for a very small group of people. Anti-Semitism is making a come back, it is definitely on the rise, and you seem compelled to give it a nudge. Hell of a point of view there, dick.


The term Anti-Semitism has been a "Get-out-of-jail-free" card for Zionists for much too long.
A former member of Israel's Knesset tells the truth about Zionist trickery:



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Dec 2, 2017 11:50:56   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Here we go, now the goose stepping really begins. Sieg Heil!

A Hoax of Hate

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Dec 2, 2017 11:55:13   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
How can you spend 3 years researching the Israel/Palestine situation without realizing that the Palestinians are being occupied by the Israelis and bombed to oblivion anytime Israel chooses.
The Zionists have been the terrorists from the beginning, bombing the King David Hotel, killing 91, including 17 Jews. Zionist terrorists also assassinated Count Folke Bernadotte, Swedish diplomat who was appointed mediator between the Arabs and Jews. The Jewish terrorists thought the Count was favoring the Arabs. https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=count+bernadette+assassination+Israel#id=1&vid=fa4b96e04e55d438d7d92f1eb1cdf6e9&action=view
How can you spend 3 years researching the Israel/P... (show quote)



You have obviously looked only into one side of this issue... and plastered this site with pro Islamic propaganda... this makes you a ignorant tool of terrorism... Just like Richard Rowland has not answered a simple moral question the same as you have never answered a simple moral question... now the both of you have this opportunity... please explain to me exactly why I should pity terrorists whether adult or child?... I consider a terrorist as anyone who will brainwash children to murder to perpetuate religious hate & war... You tools fail to study history before posting hate propaganda... the real history on planet earth is the extreme Arabs follow Hitler's Nazism making extreme Arabs neo Nazis & you tools promote this hate through your repetitive propaganda... I find this a moral issue ... if you tools spent some time learning instead of parroting you will find why most normal Palestinians would rather live in Israel instead of destroying it... Palestine is controlled by Islamic extremism from the outside making the Palestinian people pawns of this extremism...

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Dec 2, 2017 12:09:04   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Here we go, now the goose stepping really begins. Sieg Heil!

A Hoax of Hate



Henry Ford stated in 1929 that many of the Protocols had been accomplished.
Jewish control of media and control of U.S. money supply along with having the U.S. fight Israel's wars for them are the Protocols which are the most devastating to the U.S. economy and American freedom.

Here's who's doing the goose-stepping in the present world situation:



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Dec 2, 2017 12:13:41   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
You have obviously looked only into one side of this issue... and plastered this site with pro Islamic propaganda... this makes you a ignorant tool of terrorism... Just like Richard Rowland has not answered a simple moral question the same as you have never answered a simple moral question... now the both of you have this opportunity... please explain to me exactly why I should pity terrorists whether adult or child?... I consider a terrorist as anyone who will brainwash children to murder to perpetuate religious hate & war... You tools fail to study history before posting hate propaganda... the real history on planet earth is the extreme Arabs follow Hitler's Nazism making extreme Arabs neo Nazis & you tools promote this hate through your repetitive propaganda... I find this a moral issue ... if you tools spent some time learning instead of parroting you will find why most normal Palestinians would rather live in Israel instead of destroying it... Palestine is controlled by Islamic extremism from the outside making the Palestinian people pawns of this extremism...
You have obviously looked only into one side of th... (show quote)


You ignore the fact that Palestinians are being occupied by Zionists. When the French were being occupied by Nazi invaders during WWII, the French Underground fought back against the Nazis. They were called Freedom Fighters. How are the Palestinian Freedom Fighters any different from the French Freedom Fighters?

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Dec 2, 2017 12:15:21   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Henry Ford stated in 1929 that many of the Protocols had been accomplished.
Jewish control of media and control of U.S. money supply along with having the U.S. fight Israel's wars for them are the Protocols which are the most devastating to the U.S. economy and American freedom.

Here's who's doing the goose-stepping in the present world situation:




Henry Ford wanted America to follow the Nazis as Nazi allies same as you tools of Islamic extremism... your a cheap act...

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Dec 2, 2017 12:21:04   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
You ignore the fact that Palestinians are being occupied by Zionists. When the French were being occupied by Nazi invaders during WWII, the French Underground fought back against the Nazis. They were called Freedom Fighters. How are the Palestinian Freedom Fighters any different from the French Freedom Fighters?




Wrong... the Palestinians are occupied by extreme Islam... the problem is that Israel can't tell who the extremists are... exactly the same problem that we now have here at home...

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