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Nov 30, 2017 19:40:34   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
There is no force in the false scenario you're attempting to sell which could take down the massive steel center core.
PBS animators knew this so they left the center core standing in their video.




Sure there is... the core was not designed for lateral or sideways forces no matter how massive you think it was... that's not hard to understand...your PBS bullshit thinks the floors collapsed like an old record player with the floors acting like a stack of records... how funny knowing how the floor system was designed & constructed... the entire floor system was designed as a flexible dampened diaphragm system... maybe you look it up and learn what is and isn't before posting BS ...

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Nov 30, 2017 21:22:26   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Aaron Brown had not been rehearsed in what not to say on 9/11.
His comments were removed from the news videos after the original broadcast.
You're not a structural engineer or a scientist either. You can't even recognize concrete rebar in a photo.
Aaron Brown has an identity. You don't.
So who is lacking in credibility?
Of course I have an identity, all humans have an identity.

X marks the spot.

X Rebar
X Truss rods
X concrete floor slab



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Nov 30, 2017 21:40:25   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
The reason dynamic loading has nothing to do with the collapse of the towers is because the upper floors of the towers could never have been in motion if not for explosives.
Except for the most critical scientific facts that you continually deny.

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A hundred years of skyscraper fires has proven this to be the case. For your continuing education: http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnnjIzamnJo
The twin towers were not box framed buildings.

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Nov 30, 2017 21:44:18   #
emarine
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Of course I have an identity, all humans have an identity.

X marks the spot.

X Rebar
X Truss rods
X concrete floor slab




Looks like some floor pan in between the slabs...

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Nov 30, 2017 23:25:07   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
emarine wrote:
Looks like some floor pan in between the slabs...
Yep. Compare the two photos.

In the top photo, this remnant taken from the rubble, we see evidence of at least 3 floors compressed into a chunk less than 3 feet in depth.

The red arrows indicate the remains of concrete floor slabs. The blue arrows indicate truss rods, mostly likely the triangular support rods, and the orange arrows indicate remains of the metal floor pans and support flanges. The bottom orange arrow points to a main truss beam.





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Dec 1, 2017 04:07:23   #
whole2th
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yep. Compare the two photos.

In the top photo, this remnant taken from the rubble, we see evidence of at least 3 floors compressed into a chunk less than 3 feet in depth.

The red arrows indicate the remains of concrete floor slabs. The blue arrows indicate truss rods, mostly likely the triangular support rods, and the orange arrows indicate remains of the metal floor pans and support flanges. The bottom orange arrow points to a main truss beam.


I've heard the term 'meteorites' used to describe some of the 'congealed' lumps of debris. These conglomerations of building remnants which have been saved should be made available for testing for residues--of nanothermite and other explosive substances. As things are now, NIST admitted to not testing for explosives.

Do you think it was prudent to not test for explosives, Blade/emarine?

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Dec 1, 2017 08:42:57   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Sure there is... the core was not designed for lateral or sideways forces no matter how massive you think it was... that's not hard to understand...your PBS bullshit thinks the floors collapsed like an old record player with the floors acting like a stack of records... how funny knowing how the floor system was designed & constructed... the entire floor system was designed as a flexible dampened diaphragm system... maybe you look it up and learn what is and isn't before posting BS ...


You claim the floors fell straight down. There is little lateral force in a downward fall . . . certainly not enough to tear apart a structure as strong as the center core.
You also claim the floors falling downward peeled the outer wall structure apart. That's not possible either. The floor truss connections couldn't not have failed on any floor all at the same time. Not one floor on either tower had fires that covered an entire floor. Since the debris during the collapses was propelled upward and outward for hundreds of feet on both towers, only powerful explosives can do that.



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Dec 1, 2017 08:47:43   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Of course I have an identity, all humans have an identity.

X marks the spot.

X Rebar
X Truss rods
X concrete floor slab


You don't have an identity on this forum other than that of an anonymous shill.

So now you can recognize rebar. Can you also recognize water pipes and electrical conduit?
How do you differentiate floor slab concrete from foundation concrete?

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Dec 1, 2017 08:51:10   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Looks like some floor pan in between the slabs...


Maybe it's a frying pan used to cook the stack of Aunt Jemima pancakes . . .
Maple syrup on mine, please.

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Dec 1, 2017 08:55:24   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The twin towers were not box framed buildings.


If you don't know what concrete rebar looks like, how much science can you know?

The towers were designed to be much stronger than box-framed buildings.

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Dec 1, 2017 09:30:00   #
whole2th
 
payne1000 wrote:
If you don't know what concrete rebar looks like, how much science can you know?

The towers were designed to be much stronger than box-framed buildings.


And the agency in charge of investigation admits to not testing for explosives residues.

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Dec 1, 2017 09:35:18   #
payne1000
 
whole2th wrote:
And the agency in charge of investigation admits to not testing for explosives residues.


NIST didn't need to test for explosives. They already knew they were there.

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Dec 1, 2017 11:24:21   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
You claim the floors fell straight down. There is little lateral force in a downward fall . . . certainly not enough to tear apart a structure as strong as the center core.
You also claim the floors falling downward peeled the outer wall structure apart. That's not possible either. The floor truss connections couldn't not have failed on any floor all at the same time. Not one floor on either tower had fires that covered an entire floor. Since the debris during the collapses was propelled upward and outward for hundreds of feet on both towers, only powerful explosives can do that.
You claim the floors fell straight down. There is ... (show quote)



No... you claim the floors fell straight down like the PBS video...that's just not probable or maybe even possible... the evidence shows the outer floor truss connections all failed from shear impact from the top section outer frame columns impacting just inside the outer lower columns pushing the lower columns outward peeling the structure all the way down...there was no pile driver effect due to the massive shear overload causing the truss seats to fail in fractions of a second... this is exactly where chandler screwed up his math... his time sampling of 5 samples per second required 30 per second to achieve a true rate of fall... this simple fact underestimates the energy of the first impact 100 fold due to F=ma & underestimates every impact all the way down... Your Tony Stromboli tool used 6 samples per second where again 30 are required ... if you actually understood Newton's 2nd law of motion you would realize you have no argument & never did... All you prove a very vivid imagination & repetition... so once again chandlers pile driver theory following the 3rd law of motion is as far off as his simple hammer striking a 10 penny nail... in his example the nail stopped the hammer according to the 3rd law... close but no cigar ... reality proves chandler should have used a pin not a 10 penny nail for a true example of energy ending your pile driver block resistance explosive demolition theory of the lower section under the plane impact zone... get a life already...

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Dec 1, 2017 12:05:12   #
whole2th
 
emarine wrote:
... get a life already...


And the agency charged with investigation of ground zero admits to not testing for explosives.

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Dec 1, 2017 15:21:49   #
emarine
 
whole2th wrote:
And the agency charged with investigation of ground zero admits to not testing for explosives.



and what agency would that be?...

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