payne1000

I'm not interested in reading historical fiction.
I was exposed to enough of that in public schools and now from the lying mainstream media.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

I reckon it is best that you don't read The Looming Tower. It is exemplary historical research. You are far too close-minded and gullible to appreciate historical facts. You are afraid to face the truth.

Non-fiction review: The Looming Tower: Al Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 Wright, a New Yorker writer, brings exhaustive research and delightful prose to one of the best books yet on the history of terrorism. He begins with the observation that, despite an impressive record of terror and assassination, post–WWarII, Islamic militants failed to establish theocracies in any Arab country. Many helped Afghanistan resist the Russian invasion of 1979 before their unemployed warriors stepped up efforts at home. Al-Qaeda, formed in Afghanistan in 1988 and led by Osama bin Laden, pursued a different agenda, blaming America for Islam's problems. Less wealthy than believed, bin Laden's talents lay in organization and PR, Wright asserts. Ten years later, bin Laden blew up U.S. embassies in Africa and the destroyer Cole , opening the floodgates of money and recruits. Wright's step-by-step description of these attacks reveals that planning terror is a sloppy business, leaving a trail of clues that, in the case of 9/11, raised many suspicions among individuals in the FBI, CIA and NSA. Wright shows that 9/11 could have been prevented if those agencies had worked together. As a fugitive, bin Ladin's days as a terror mastermind may be past, but his success has spawned swarms of imitators. This is an important, gripping and profoundly disheartening book.

Bad Thinkers: Why do some people believe conspiracy theories? It’s not just who or what they know. It’s a matter of intellectual character

Meet Oliver. Like many of his friends, Oliver thinks he is an expert on 9/11. He spends much of his spare time looking at conspiracist websites and his research has convinced him that the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, DC, of 11 September 2001 were an inside job. The aircraft impacts and resulting fires couldn’t have caused the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center to collapse. The only viable explanation, he maintains, is that government agents planted explosives in advance. He realises, of course, that the government blames Al-Qaeda for 9/11 but his predictable response is pure Mandy Rice-Davies: they would say that, wouldn’t they?

Polling evidence suggests that Oliver’s views about 9/11 are by no means unusual. Indeed, peculiar theories about all manner of things are now widespread. There are conspiracy theories about the spread of AIDS, the 1969 Moon landings, UFOs, and the assassination of JFK. Sometimes, conspiracy theories turn out to be right – Watergate really was a conspiracy – but mostly they are bunkum. They are in fact vivid illustrations of a striking truth about human beings: however intelligent and knowledgeable we might be in other ways, many of us still believe the strangest things. You can find people who believe they were abducted by aliens, that the Holocaust never happened, and that cancer can be cured by positive thinking. A 2009 Harris Poll found that between one‑fifth and one‑quarter of Americans believe in reincarnation, astrology and the existence of witches. You name it, and there is probably someone out there who believes it.

You realise, of course, that Oliver’s theory about 9/11 has little going for it, and this might make you wonder why he believes it. The question ‘Why does Oliver believe that 9/11 was an inside job?’ is just a version of a more general question posed by the US skeptic Michael Shermer: why do people believe weird things? The weirder the belief, the stranger it seems that someone can have it. Asking why people believe weird things isn’t like asking why they believe it’s raining as they look out of the window and see the rain pouring down. It’s obvious why people believe it’s raining when they have compelling evidence, but it’s far from obvious why Oliver believes that 9/11 was an inside job when he has access to compelling evidence that it wasn’t an inside job.

payne1000

You want to know what's really weird?
What's really weird is the conspiracy theory you're defending.
Watch it again and try to figure out why you would defend the most ridiculous and unbelievable conspiracy theory ever concocted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98
Surely you don't believe it?
It must be that this absurd conspiracy theory supports your Zionist Neocon agenda.

Steve700

He ignores and you put on the ignore list, in order to avoid dealing with facts throwing your way that you don't want to deal with. Your both lacking in any kind of integrity to the point where if integrity was gas, neither of you would have enough to start a piss ants motorscooter. Not to mention mocking slanderers of the righteous. (I may, at times, be brutally blunt, even crude and vulgar, but I never slander) You both have the characteristics of arrogant self absorbed truth suppressing narcissistic liberals. (& in your case WholeUn2th, you're a coward on top of it) I think your both on the wrong side. Conservatives are supposed to be people of integrity who value truth, honesty and self-discipline. We don't need either one of you.

Steve700

Of course you realize that most likely that he ever watched it, or any of your videos in the 1st place. He probably turns his eyes away from your pictures. You know the coward is never going to let himself be confronted with evidence and facts that would disprove his bull shit fantasies that our government would never have done such a thing to get support from the American people to go to war.

Steve700

Your questions are really stupid and lame brained compared to my question "Why is there no wreckage of an airliner full of people at either the Pentagon are out in that field"and my question is much easier to answer. And I'm still expecting you to answer it or show your proof with pictures of the wreckage strewn all over. As you know that single engine found at the Pentagon didn't match the type of engine that model of airliner use. I think the picture below pretty well explains why it doesn't and why you say there are people who say they saw a plane. It really does look quite a lot like a plane, DOESN'T IT ???? and obviously is jet powered, not a rocket.

STOPS WITH THE BULL SHIT & SHOW THE PICTURES or AERIAL VIDEO FOOTAGE PROVING YOUR ASSERTIONS or ADMIT YOU JUST DON'T KNOW

emarine

If you choose to be highly educated here you must learn the basic characteristics between JP-4 & Jet -A which is similar to JP-8 but not close to JP-4 which is much different... you may as well also learn how temperature effects load bearing structural steel... However I do enjoy your writing skills & your match to a railroad track analogy but find it highly inaccurate...

emarine

The truth is conclusive proof which you have not provided to date... basically you provide unverified bullshit... Still waiting for Atta alive & well which you stated he was but can't prove... just like everything else you state... Lies, hatred & Bullshit...Adolf...

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Not that 5 minute piece of shit again. Must be a favorite since you numbskulls post it so often.

Not only was it improbable that a massive government bureaucracy planned, financed, prepared, and executed the attack as you idiots frame it, it would have been impossible. No way in hell.

The Al Qaeda plan was brilliant in its simplicity. The entire operation cost Al Qaeda a half million dollars.

Intelligence Failures Of The Highest Order: 9/11 And Christmas 2009

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Believe whatever you want to believe, bucko, but what you believe does not change the facts.

There was wreckage of jetliners and human remains in the Pentagon and in the field in Pennsylvania. All but 5 of the victims, both aboard Flight 77 and in the Pentagon, have been identified.

Flight 93 victims' effects to go back to families

United Airlines Flight 93 slammed into the earth Sept. 11 near Shanksville, Somerset County, at more than 500 mph, with a ferocity that disintegrated metal, bone and flesh. It took more than three months to identify the remains of the 40 passengers and crew, and, by process of elimination, the four hijackers.

Those remains were gathered by the FBI and other investigators from the 50-foot-deep pit the Boeing 757 jet gouged in a reclaimed strip mine, and from the woods adjoining the crash site.

But searchers also gathered surprisingly intact mementos of lives lost.

Those items, such as a wedding ring and other jewelry, photos, credit cards, purses and their contents, shoes, a wallet and currency, are among seven boxes of identified personal effects salvaged from the site. They sit in an El Segundo, Calif., mortuary and will be returned to victims' families in February.

"We have some property for most passengers," said Craig Hendrix, a funeral coordinator and a personal effects administrator with Douglass Air Disaster Funeral Coordinators, a company often contacted by airlines after devastating crashes.

Hendrix said United Airlines' insurance underwriter hired Douglass on Sept. 12 to handle not only funeral arrangements for the victims but also the return of personal effects.

His company also is helping identify the remains and coordinating funeral services for the passengers from the three other airline crashes that day -- United Airlines Flight 175, which crashed into the south tower of the World Trade Center; American Airlines Flight 11, which hit the north tower of the World Trade Center; and American Airlines Flight 77, which hijackers flew into the Pentagon.

A ring and a badge

Since receiving the personal effects of Flight 93 passengers from the FBI in early November, Douglass has been preparing the items for return. For example, about two weeks ago, FBI agents presented the wedding ring and wallet of passenger Andrew Garcia to his wife, Dorothy, in Portola Valley, Calif.

But before the FBI delivered the ring to Garcia, which was inscribed with "All my love, 8-2-69," Douglass sent it to a jeweler for cleaning and repair.

Around Thanksgiving, Jerry and Beatrice Guadagno of Ewing, N.J., received word that their son Richard's credentials and badge from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service had been found by the FBI at the crash site.

"It was practically intact," Richard's sister, Lori, said of the credentials, which were returned in their wallet. "It just looked like it wasn't damaged or hadn't gone through much of anything at all, which is so bizarre and ironic.

"Everything takes on an extra special meaning, especially when there's so little that you have."

Hendrix and Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller said for most of the other families, the personal effects and the remains of the crash victims will be returned at the same time in mid-February.

"We haven't wanted to bother the families with the return of property without the return of remains," Hendrix said. "The last thing we want is confusion, with them thinking, 'Is this the last thing we're going to get back or is there more?' "

The families of college student Toshiya Kuge of Tokyo and computer specialist Waleska Martinez of Jersey City, N.J., already have claimed some of their remains. Miller said Martinez's family took possession of her remains within weeks of the crash -- she was one of the first victims identified -- and Kuge's did the same before Thanksgiving.

Miller identified the last of the bodies Dec. 19. He is still doing DNA tests on additional tissue samples.

Soon after the crash, the FBI and Miller asked victims' families to fill out forms detailing physical descriptions of relatives on the flight and what jewelry, clothing and personal effects they carried.

Hendrix said the personal effects that survived the crash were ejected from the plane at the moment of impact.

Garcia received her items early because she had described them in detail to investigators. The Guadagnos surmise they received Richard's credentials early because of his status as a federal employee.

In the meantime, Douglass is refurbishing jewelry, straightening credit cards and photos with steam heat, and topically disinfecting most other items.

When the FBI releases to Douglass the "unassociated" material gathered from the crash site -- items that haven't been matched to an individual on Flight 93 -- the company will photograph each item and compile a catalog for victims' families. Members can then make claims for items they recognize.

Miller said Douglass also was helping with the disposition of unidentifiable remains from the site.

whole2th

I don't recall ever posting that Atta was alive and well. I do recall posting about a handful of the 19 alleged hijackers who turned up to protest their having been named. You replied your usual reply: BS.

Seems you have a limited repetoire of replies--most of them outright denial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-27FGbpBk4

Steve700

it is you truth deniers who are bull shit and can't just prove anything at all, only that certain things could have occurred without explosives. It is us who has many questions that there simply is no other answer to, other than that it was an inside job. Such as how come there never was wreckage of an airliner at either the Pentagon or out in that field. I submitted video of helicopter footage going over the whole areas while things were still smoking and there is nothing there. And I have submitted pictures showing the area to be free of any airline wreckage other than a very few pieces that could all be loaded into the back of a single pickup truck. I'm not going to post the pictures again for you. But some of the money that I have are in the 2nd post on this article that shows how nuts all you guys are. The mountain of evidence that indicates that the whole damn thing is a government perpetrated fraud is absolutely overwhelming. Read the 1st 2 posts and look at the pictures here and then shut your mouth and admit you're not so damn cocksure after all: http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-108414-1.html

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

If you think you have the final answer, then why ask any more questions.

Steve700

Why are your response is always irrelevant to the points made, pictures displayed and videos provided. That is cowardly, shows a lack of respect and a lack of integrity. You got nothing but bull shit and you contradict yourself constantly by saying everything disintegrated for at least down to the size of a quarter and then produce hearsay that identifications and undamaged wallets were returned undamaged to the relatives. They can tell you anything. And you have no way, nor the time to research it, which would require actually interviewing the people that were the originators of the hearsay, to verify the validity of any of it. You're just totally full of shit and always trying to change the topic. You got no proof and I'm the one who's given you real truth and given you an easy way to just prove what I say if what I was saying was incorrect, but trying to get you to do it or make a truthful admission is like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall. There is something very seriously wrong with you as much as with these ass hole liberals who love Obama and deny that he is a Muslim Communist radical out to destroy our country so that we can be communized to be acclimated into the New World order. You're as sick as they are. Man up and be honest for once. PUNK

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Steve700

Of course I have the final answer and I proven it again and again. I'm just trying to shake you out of your denial, get you to man up, stop suppressing truth, repent and admit you see the Jews now and have been a stupid obstinate and contrary ass hole.