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Nov 29, 2017 17:20:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000

95 divided by 15 multiplied by 100 equals 633? Give. Me. A. Break.
My calculator says that is accurate.
No shit, Sherlock.

Mathematical equations don't have an expiration date. Unfortunately humans do.
That is not a scientific mathematical equation, it is simple arithmetic the product of which means nothing.

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Nov 29, 2017 17:48:46   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The scientific explanation for how and why the towers collapsed isn't all that difficult to understand, the explanations have been presented here ad infinitum, but for brainwashed people like you, there is no explanation other than explosives.

The 9/11 conspiracy movement isn't going anywhere. It is like a monkey caged in a zoo, it chatters and wails, while the little kids toss it peanuts and bananas to keep it from starving. It will never get out of its cage until it finally dies. The 9/11 conspiracy movement is on life support. Only fools keep trying to feed it.

There never will be a "new" investigation, no witnesses will ever be subpoenaed, no one will ever be charged. Except for some artifacts in a museum, no physical evidence remains. There is nothing to investigate.

An "inside job" the size and scope the truthers claim would have left a trail of documentation 10 miles wide and a hundred miles long, documentation far more convincing than a million speculations about photos and youtube videos and pseudo-science and out of context eyewitness statements. Where are the "inside job" communications, the memos, the contracts, the emails, the invoices, receipts, the phone records, the travel records, transport records, cargo manifests, the bank records--the account numbers, wire transfers, transactions, deposits, debits, credit card statements, checks, payouts and payoffs? They are nowhere because no such things ever existed.

9/11 is history. It happened, it's done, there are definitely more pressing concerns today than dwelling on a horrible act of terrorism 16 years ago.
The scientific explanation for how and why the tow... (show quote)


Nowhere in any of the convoluted impossible collapse scenarios you and your fellow anonymous shill, emarine, have posted have you given a valid explanation of how the center core could collapse upon itself. The center core was designed to support three times the weight it actually held up. It's totally impossible that it would collapse straight down on itself in less than 15 seconds from the same weight it had held up for half a century. The fake war on Muslims is still going on. That's why it's so important that all the world knows the truth.

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Nov 29, 2017 17:53:35   #
payne1000
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
payne1000

95 divided by 15 multiplied by 100 equals 633? Give. Me. A. Break.
My calculator says that is accurate.
No shit, Sherlock.

Mathematical equations don't have an expiration date. Unfortunately humans do.
That is not a scientific mathematical equation, it is simple arithmetic the product of which means nothing.

Boldwyn's equation is backed up by the brick and straw experiment. Professor Feynman would agree:
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-adk-adk_sbnt&hsimp=yhs-adk_sbnt&hspart=adk&p=feynman+if+it+doesn%27t+match+the+experiment+its+wrong.#id=1&vid=043d4abf84c7a4b050e568762b9c1645&action=click

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Nov 29, 2017 18:06:24   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
Nowhere in your latest babble do you explain how the floors collapsing down on one another could bring down the massive center core.
I understand why you can't explain that. It took explosives to take down the center core.



Still can't grasp the second law of motion...cuter charges cut steel not bend & twist it... that's mass in motion or F=ma + gravity every time... go ahead & ask me again tomorrow like usual...









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Nov 29, 2017 18:34:21   #
emarine
 




you must modify your brick experiment to resemble reality... remove the top cardboard square & replace it with 90 square cardboard doughnut shaped squares...glue the cardboard squares to the sides of the straws representing the floor truss supports...measure the height between the floors to scale for 12ft each & adjust the overall height... you can use fewer floors if you choose to ... drop your brink small side down between the floors from 4x the distance of the floor spacing & video the results ...the thicker the cardboard the more unrealistic the experiment...

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Nov 29, 2017 18:56:25   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
Still can't grasp the second law of motion...cuter charges cut steel not bend & twist it... that's mass in motion or F=ma + gravity every time... go ahead & ask me again tomorrow like usual...


You've cherry picked a lot of steel which is not shown in the debris piles.
Was it ever in the debris piles?
Why didn't you show all the steel in the debris piles photos which remained as straight as the day it was erected?
Can you find any of your warehouse steel in the debris photos?















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Nov 29, 2017 19:01:23   #
whole2th
 
The entry point for the majority of those who identify as "conspiracy theorists" and "9/11 Truth activists" is in the discovery that Building 7 dropped exactly like a Las Vegas hotel demolition ... a classic appearance of explosive demolition.

This topic ... the original post ... is about "We Blew Up WTC7 on 9/11". The topic has now over 250 posts.

A portion of the posts here are from what I call "ZEWS" or "DEEP STATE AGENTS".

A portion of the posts are from "9/11 Truth activists".

There is a stark difference between the two styles of posting.

Here's a reference that solidly establishes Building 7 (WTC7) was rigged for explosive demolition: http://ReThink911.org



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Nov 29, 2017 19:01:37   #
payne1000
 
emarine wrote:
you must modify your brick experiment to resemble reality... remove the top cardboard square & replace it with 90 square cardboard doughnut shaped squares...glue the cardboard squares to the sides of the straws representing the floor truss supports...measure the height between the floors to scale for 12ft each & adjust the overall height... you can use fewer floors if you choose to ... drop your brink small side down between the floors from 4x the distance of the floor spacing & video the results ...the thicker the cardboard the more unrealistic the experiment...
you must modify your brick experiment to resemble ... (show quote)


In your ridiculous experiment, the brick would hit the center core and bounce off. If the center core were left out, the experiment would not be related to reality.
If the brick were shaped like a donut and missed the center core, the center core would remain standing. You fail logic in every respect.

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Nov 29, 2017 19:23:59   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
In your ridiculous experiment, the brick would hit the center core and bounce off. If the center core were left out, the experiment would not be related to reality.
If the brick were shaped like a donut and missed the center core, the center core would remain standing. You fail logic in every respect.



The lighter upper core steel failed from non uniform weight distribution & lateral forces... the outer frame was simply forced outward... once the floor system failed the entire structure lost stability... unstable structures fall... the brick would hit wherever you wanted it to... build it & they will come... the center core was standing watch the video again...

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Nov 29, 2017 19:28:16   #
emarine
 
payne1000 wrote:
You've cherry picked a lot of steel which is not shown in the debris piles.
Was it ever in the debris piles?
Why didn't you show all the steel in the debris piles photos which remained as straight as the day it was erected?
Can you find any of your warehouse steel in the debris photos?



Most of the core columns failed at the weld joint as seen in your photos... now tell me you have never seen a failed weld?...the core columns were not bolt joints...

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Nov 29, 2017 19:54:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
payne1000 wrote:
Nowhere in any of the convoluted impossible collapse scenarios you and your fellow anonymous shill, emarine, have posted have you given a valid explanation of how the center core could collapse upon itself. The center core was designed to support three times the weight it actually held up. It's totally impossible that it would collapse straight down on itself in less than 15 seconds from the same weight it had held up for half a century. The fake war on Muslims is still going on. That's why it's so important that all the world knows the truth.
Nowhere in any of the convoluted impossible collap... (show quote)
Facilitated by the hat truss systems at the top of the towers, the core columns and the perimeter columns SHARED EQUALLY the gravity load of the towers. One without the other was not strong enough to bear the total load. (As Leslie Robertson clearly explained).

Moreover, there were FOUR strength levels in the tower support structure. Size and strength transitions occurred at four levels. IOW, the gravity load at the higher levels of the towers was less than that at the lower levels. For example, the gravity load at the 75th floor was one third what it was at the base, so the support columns at the 75th floor level were not as strong as those down below. The size, strength and type of core columns ranged from 22x22 inch box columns (1.3 inch steel), 14x22 box columns (5 inch steel), 14x15 inch box columns (1.5 inch steel), 22x17 inch Wide Flange columns (5 inch steel), 15x15 inch Wide Flange columns (1.5 inch steel), 10x13 Wide Flange columns (.64 inch steel).

The 10x13 Wide Flange columns (.64" steel) were predominant in the impact and fire zone in the North Tower (Floors 93 through 99), and transitions from 14x15 inch box columns (1.5 inch steel) to 10x13 Wide Flange columns (.64" steel) existed in floors 80 to 86 in the South Tower.

The jet impacts at floors 93 through 99 in the North Tower and floors 78 through 85 in the South Tower severed over 60 perimeter columns and damaged many others, this loss of support capability obviously caused a transfer of additional gravity loads onto the remaining columns. The impacts obliterated floor systems in the immediate impact areas, caused floor collapses in the heaviest hit areas and damaged other floors in both the core and in the office areas (floor system destruction was particularly severe in the South Tower due to the path of the jet through the building). The impacts blew away fire proofing on columns and trusses in the impact zone, caused floors to collapse as far as 8 floors below the impact zone, severed the water supply systems, disabled elevators, blocked stairwells, and killed a lot of people.

The fuel explosions ignited thousands of tons of combustibles in the office and core areas across 6 to 9 floors, the ensuing fires burned unchecked, out of control, long enough to critically weaken additional support columns in both the core and perimeter. Eventually, as we have seen, the entire support system in both towers failed in and around the impact/fire zones and the entire portion of the buildings above the failures collapsed onto the floors below. One floor at a time, in sequence, all the way down. A PROGRESSIVE GRAVITATIONAL COLLAPSE.

Impossible to imagine how you can put the whole gravitational load in the twin towers on the core columns alone. Must be a major glitch in your understanding of building engineering and the laws of physics. No doubt the massive conspiratorial brainwashing you have succumbed to caused a complete failure in whatever ability you may have had to apply logic, objective reasoning and critical thought to complex issues. You should try to regain some ability to think for yourself before your time runs out.

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Nov 29, 2017 20:07:19   #
emarine
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Facilitated by the hat truss systems at the top of the towers, the core columns and the perimeter columns SHARED EQUALLY the gravity load of the towers. One without the other was not strong enough to bear the total load. (As Leslie Robertson clearly explained).

Moreover, there were FOUR strength levels in the tower support structure. Size and strength transitions occurred at four levels. IOW, the gravity load at the higher levels of the towers was less than that at the lower levels. For example, the gravity load at the 75th floor was one third what it was at the base, so the support columns at the 75th floor level were not as strong as those down below. The size, strength and type of core columns ranged from 22x22 inch box columns (1.3 inch steel), 14x22 box columns (5 inch steel), 14x15 inch box columns (1.5 inch steel), 22x17 inch Wide Flange columns (5 inch steel), 15x15 inch Wide Flange columns (1.5 inch steel), 10x13 Wide Flange columns (.64 inch steel).

The 10x13 Wide Flange columns (.64" steel) were predominant in the impact and fire zone in the North Tower (Floors 93 through 99), and transitions from 14x15 inch box columns (1.5 inch steel) to 10x13 Wide Flange columns (.64" steel) existed in floors 80 to 86 in the South Tower.

The jet impacts at floors 93 through 99 in the North Tower and floors 78 through 85 in the South Tower severed over 60 perimeter columns and damaged many others, this loss of support capability obviously caused a transfer of additional gravity loads onto the remaining columns. The impacts obliterated floor systems in the immediate impact areas, caused floor collapses in the heaviest hit areas and damaged other floors in both the core and in the office areas (floor system destruction was particularly severe in the South Tower due to the path of the jet through the building). The impacts blew away fire proofing on columns and trusses in the impact zone, caused floors to collapse as far as 8 floors below the impact zone, severed the water supply systems, disabled elevators, blocked stairwells, and killed a lot of people.

The fuel explosions ignited thousands of tons of combustibles in the office and core areas across 6 to 9 floors, the ensuing fires burned unchecked, out of control, long enough to critically weaken additional support columns in both the core and perimeter. Eventually, as we have seen, the entire support system in both towers failed in and around the impact/fire zones and the entire portion of the buildings above the failures collapsed onto the floors below. One floor at a time, in sequence, all the way down. A PROGRESSIVE GRAVITATIONAL COLLAPSE.

Impossible to imagine how you can put the whole gravitational load in the twin towers on the core columns alone. Must be a major glitch in your understanding of building engineering and the laws of physics. No doubt the massive conspiratorial brainwashing you have succumbed to caused a complete failure in whatever ability you may have had to apply logic, objective reasoning and critical thought to complex issues. You should try to regain some ability to think for yourself before your time runs out.
Facilitated by the hat truss systems at the top of... (show quote)



To carry it one step further the massive core was designed for compressive loads only... there was no lateral support without the floor system & outer frame... no support for diagonal loading either... the core no matter how massive you think it is was not self supporting...

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Nov 29, 2017 20:26:35   #
whole2th
 
emarine wrote:
To carry it one step further the massive core was designed for compressive loads only... there was no lateral support without the floor system & outer frame... no support for diagonal loading either... the core no matter how massive you think it is was not self supporting...


Building 7 was a classic controlled demolition. http://AE911TRUTH.org

http://wtc7evaluation.org

And, since Building 7 was an explosive (controlled) demolition, so were the Twin Towers also explosive demolitions.

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Nov 29, 2017 20:29:02   #
emarine
 
whole2th wrote:
Building 7 was a classic controlled demolition. http://AE911TRUTH.org

http://wtc7evaluation.org

So what did congress say?...
So what did congress say?......

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Nov 29, 2017 20:29:20   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
whole2th wrote:
The entry point for the majority of those who identify as "conspiracy theorists" and "9/11 Truth activists" is in the discovery that Building 7 dropped exactly like a Las Vegas hotel demolition ... a classic appearance of explosive demolition.

This topic ... the original post ... is about "We Blew Up WTC7 on 9/11". The topic has now over 250 posts.

A portion of the posts here are from what I call "ZEWS" or "DEEP STATE AGENTS".

A portion of the posts are from "9/11 Truth activists".

There is a stark difference between the two styles of posting.

Here's a reference that solidly establishes Building 7 (WTC7) was rigged for explosive demolition: http://ReThink911.org
The entry point for the majority of those who iden... (show quote)
The exit point for all of those who identify as "conspiracy theorists" and "9/11 Truth activists" is in the back of the barnyard where you fools were hatched.

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