emarine

You do realize in your non argument WTC7 smoke issue you show the SW corner in one photo & the NW in the other... You fail to mention wind , wind direction & speed... the wind was variable blowing from the west toward the east... this fact has a major influence on smoke... Isn't there wind in Texas?... or just old photographers with absurd theory's?...

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Because the fire in 1975 and the fires on 9/11 were totally different, and, on 9/11, the towers collapsed before firefighters were able to put a drop of water on the HUMONGOUS fires burning through many floors in both towers.

I dunno. Why do you always ask me for a source? We have asked you for sources a thousand times and you never provide them. Other than the same old truther bullshit over and over again.

In any case, would the FDNY report on the 1975 fire in the WTC1 work for you? Or, would that just be more Zionist propaganda?

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payne1000

I've shown valid evidence that the photo is retouched. The name of the retoucher is not important. The names of you cover-up shills is important. If we know your real identities, we can show that you are not who you say you are. You can't have that, can you?

payne1000

I almost always source the info I provide. You almost never provide a source for what you post.
Yes, please post a link to the FDNY report on the 1975 fire in the North Tower.

payne1000

The wind on 9/11 was N/NW in the morning.
The direction the smoke is coming out of the windows on the West side of WTC7 indicates a light wind from the North probably influenced by the buildings surrounding WTC7 on the west side.
WTC7 was obviously blocking most of the wind from the North allowing the smoke to build up on the South face.

Does this look like enough fire to bring this tower down in 8 seconds?

emarine

Your still photo captures how much time of a fire that burned for many hours... do you feel that this is a honest representation of fact?... or just more deception from lary payne... you do know you can post fire videos for free & they tell a much different story...

payne1000

If you can find any photo or video of WTC7 which tells a different story, why don't you post it?

Here's a video which adds to the truth of what really happened to WTC7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LO5V2CJpzI

emarine

ok... http://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/conspiracistsmisrepresentwtc7%27scondition http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVDZH1WCnk0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzVlSnFsn9A

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All of your sources are from conspiracy theorists, most of them are photos or youtube videos--captioned, edited, narrated, retouched, altered, or otherwise spun out of context by conspiracy theorists. Every source we provide you summarily dismiss without watching or reading a word as Zionist propaganda or cover-ups by those who were "in on it". So what's the point of providing you with any sources. If you want the FDNY report on the 1975 fire, look it up yourself.

The North Tower fire in 1975 was limited to a 3rd alarm, which is a common response for high rise fires in NYC.

On 9/11, observing the impact of the aircraft into the North Tower from a dozen blocks away while at another incident, first-due FDNY Battalion Chief Joseph Pfeifer immediately called for a second alarm. While en route, he called for third alarm units at 8:48.

At 9:00 a.m., while en route, Chief of Department Peter Ganci upgraded the response to a fifth-alarm assignment. When the jet hit the South Tower a few minutes later, a 2nd 5th alarm was issued and fire commanders issued additional 2nd and 3rd alarms. At 9:29 a.m., Chief Ganci ordered a full recall of all off-duty FDNY personnel. This was the first total recall of FDNY personnel in more than 30 years.

At 9:47 a.m., 12 minutes before the South Tower collapsed, with three simultaneous, major operations ongoing in the North Tower, the South Tower, and the Marriott Hotel, Chief Ganci, anticipating an extended operation and the need for relief, called for a third fifth-alarm assignment.
WORLD TRADE CENTER DISASTER: (FDNY) INITIAL RESPONSE

So, you see, payne, the 1975 fire bears no comparison to the situation on 9/11. The only reason you think it does is because it happened in a WTC tower and you are trying to justify or somehow rationalize your argument for a fictional drama involving explosives.

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payne1000

The author of your first link doesn't reveal his identity.
That's a strong clue that he's a cover-up agent like yourself.
He posts a lot of fuzzy photos which don't show any fires covering the entire 47 stories as he quotes one of the fire chiefs as claiming.
He doesn't show the retouched photo BR posted. He must have known that one would be recognized as an obvious fake.
Your video crops tight on the smoke but there is something very important missing from the video. Where is the fire?
Enough fire to bring down a 47-story steel framed skyscraper at free-fall speed would be highly visible.
There had not been that much fire in a skyscraper in the 100-year history of skyscrapers. Where was the fire in WTC7?

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This much fire can't bring this tower down. Where was the fire in WTC7?

payne1000

All your posts are from a conspiracy theorist who hides his identity. You're supporting and defending the Bush Administration's conspiracy theory which claims 19 Arabs from a cave in Afghanistan were able to get through airport security without showing up on the security videos, hijack 4 airliners, knock down three office towers using only two of the airliners, then crash another of the airliners into the Pentagon without leaving any airliner wreckage at the scene. When you support lies that obvious, even if you identified yourself, you would still have no credibility.

payne1000

Your video shows how isolated the fires were in WTC7.
The video does not show any hole in WTC7.
The video which followed your video reveals the truth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFoarqaNjL8

emarine

Maybe its not a tower?... another 12 story building fire picture @ night?... are all buildings & fires the same?... more repetitive BS?...large structures have plenty of interior space to burn inside the building that's harder to see where small structures don't & rapidly burn the exterior when consumed ... large structures bear more weight ... masonry & concrete preform better in fire... all buildings & fires are in fact not the same because you don't know the differences...