A serious question for those who support abortion.
Sep 22, 2017 22:30:19 #
Super Dave wrote:
IOW, you can't answer.
Conservatives do believe many things. But....
Conservatives do not believe that innocent human life is not worth protecting, or that any human being is the property of another.
You can call yourself a conservative, a progressive are the Queen of England. It doesn't matter what you call yourself. If you accept abortion for convenience you're not a conservative.
Conservatives do believe many things. But....
Conservatives do not believe that innocent human life is not worth protecting, or that any human being is the property of another.
You can call yourself a conservative, a progressive are the Queen of England. It doesn't matter what you call yourself. If you accept abortion for convenience you're not a conservative.
RETW
Sep 22, 2017 22:32:24 #
JW wrote:
I did answer. Go back and read what I wrote.
I accept abortion because it is the law and because I have no right to interfere with the lawful conduct of another person's life. If you disagree with that, you are a fanatic nut job, not a Conservative.
I accept abortion because it is the law and because I have no right to interfere with the lawful conduct of another person's life. If you disagree with that, you are a fanatic nut job, not a Conservative.
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Sep 22, 2017 23:11:42 #
Voice of Reason wrote:
Those examples are the result of poor parenting some of the time. Other times not so much. But, for the sake of argument let's say you're 100% correct.
So, when a woman finds herself pregnant and doesn't want a child because she knows she will be an unfit single parent, your solution is to force her to inflict a felon on society and force taxpayers to support them. Great idea!
So, when a woman finds herself pregnant and doesn't want a child because she knows she will be an unfit single parent, your solution is to force her to inflict a felon on society and force taxpayers to support them. Great idea!
That question is just to stupid to even answer.
RETW
Sep 22, 2017 23:12:17 #
RETW wrote:
What's the use, you don't qualify. So how could y... (show quote)
There has to be one in every crowd, doesn't there; a paragon of moral superiority dispensing its 'wisdom' to the little people. You're ours, eh...
Sep 23, 2017 00:25:37 #
Super Dave wrote:
The daughter is better than the father. More proof of God's love.
The judicial process is screwed. But remember, it should be difficult to take a child from his/her parents.
As painful as it is we cannot allow the state to remove children from parents without exceptional cause.
There is no perfect solution here. Just the least bad solution.
The judicial process is screwed. But remember, it should be difficult to take a child from his/her parents.
As painful as it is we cannot allow the state to remove children from parents without exceptional cause.
There is no perfect solution here. Just the least bad solution.
We agree, Dave.. I've had that same battle you bring to light.. It should be very difficult to take from the parents ... And all deserve a second chance just not at the risk of the special blessing so very precious..
No perfect solution is right but if a child is continuous hurt then that parent does not deserve them..At least not until the parent has shown complete rehabilitation.. Yes, I have seen that take place too..Thank God...
Sep 23, 2017 07:55:14 #
JW wrote:
There has to be one in every crowd, doesn't there; a paragon of moral superiority dispensing its 'wisdom' to the little people. You're ours, eh...
Your the one that is dispensing so called wisdom. The only trouble with it is, it's not wisdom,
it's bull shit. Pure and unadulterated bull shit. And there is nothing moral about killing babies.
From the inception of the baby to its birth, it is a human in all aspects of the meaning of the word. And you think it is no different than a wart. It's obvious, it doesn't take much to be morally superior to you.
RETW
Sep 23, 2017 08:03:15 #
lindajoy wrote:
We agree, Dave.. I've had that same battle you bring to light.. It should be very difficult to take from the parents ... And all deserve a second chance just not at the risk of the special blessing so very precious..
No perfect solution is right but if a child is continuous hurt then that parent does not deserve them..At least not until the parent has shown complete rehabilitation.. Yes, I have seen that take place too..Thank God...
No perfect solution is right but if a child is continuous hurt then that parent does not deserve them..At least not until the parent has shown complete rehabilitation.. Yes, I have seen that take place too..Thank God...
I volunteered at a treatment facility for about 3 years.
I saw many successfully (if not temporarily) cage their demons. I also saw many that shouldn't be allowed alone in the same room with any child.
Addiction recovery is possibly the most difficult challenge that a person can ever accomplish.
Because the fight never ends.
Many recovered addicts are among the finest people, and best parents I know.
Sep 23, 2017 08:05:03 #
RETW wrote:
Your the one that is dispensing so called wisdom. ... (show quote)
A respect for human life would be all it would take to be superior to him. And he claims he used to be a devout Christian. I call bullshit on that one.
Sep 23, 2017 11:07:00 #
RETW wrote:
I really hope you mother only had one of you. br ... (show quote)
We know that over 90% of abortions, are because it's convenient.
Sep 23, 2017 11:52:23 #
Kazudy wrote:
We know that over 90% of abortions, are because it's convenient.
Well over...
Sep 23, 2017 13:03:28 #
RETW wrote:
Your the one that is dispensing so called wisdom. ... (show quote)
What 'wisdom' have I dispensed. My only message has consistently been to let others live their own lives because we have no idea why they decide as they do.
As for moral superiority, it's safe to say no one here has grounds to claim that.
Sep 23, 2017 13:05:04 #
Mr Bombastic wrote:
A respect for human life would be all it would take to be superior to him. And he claims he used to be a devout Christian. I call bullshit on that one.
A respect for living humans would enhance your standing considerably.
Sep 23, 2017 13:55:56 #
Voice of Reason
Loc: Earth
RETW wrote:
That question is just to stupid to even answer. br... (show quote)
Nah, what's stupid is mistaking a factual statement for a question.
Sep 23, 2017 14:42:26 #
JW wrote:
A respect for living humans would enhance your standing considerably.
Don't you see the hypocrisy of saying that while supporting the killing of millions of innocent living humans?
Sep 23, 2017 15:22:27 #
Super Dave wrote:
Don't you see the hypocrisy of saying that while supporting the killing of millions of innocent living humans?
Point #1 - I do not and have not supported abortion. I support the right of a woman to run her own life.
Point #2 - There is a monumental difference between a fully developed human being and the human potential of a fetus in utero.
Point #3 - The definition of a parasite accurately describes a fetus that is not externally viable. Some see abortion as no more than removing the parasite.
Abortion, in my opinion, is an unfortunate result of social decay and personal irresponsibility in the vast majority of cases and a medical or psychological necessity in a few others. It is also a legal option in all cases.
Forcing motherhood on the irresponsible is insane. Forcing an unwanted child on an indifferent or antagonistic parent is criminal in its nature. Forcing a child into a world in decay and disorder is cruel enough; forcing it to endure that world, essentially alone, is far worse than any abortion could possibly be for the individual involved.
I don't have all of the answers. I can only ask to be allowed to live my own life and to secure that, I must stand aside when others choose to live theirs. It is not my place to condemn them or to praise them. I can only hope to learn from them and that is not possible with a closed mind.
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