A serious question for those who support abortion (Page 11): I want referring to you, LJ. I agree with your assessment. Unfortunately, however, we cannot allow foster parenting to be a...

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

lindajoy wrote:

I didn't say kill a child because they might becom... (show quote)

I want referring to you, LJ.

I agree with your assessment. Unfortunately, however, we cannot allow foster parenting to be a method for perverts to get victims. That will neccesarily slow the process.

4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory

JW wrote:

Maybe God decided those couples shouldn't have children.

If you are saying that God allows abortion because that person shouldn't have children then I have no idea what God you are serving it certainly not the God of the Bible.

Mr Bombastic

Voice of Reason wrote:

Reading through this thread, although I disagree w... (show quote)

Not at all. I never asked about sacrificing a child to save your own life, for one thing. Second. Self-preservation is the driving force in nature. If I was pregnant, and there was a health risk involved in having that baby, I would do everything in my power to find a safe way of having that child. Only if it became a near certainty of dying, would I consider aborting. But such situations are extremely rare, and not the topic of discussion. It is about women who sacrifice their young for convenience. This has happened millions of times. Millions of lives lost to those planned parenthood butchers. Well, guess what? The butchers' bill will come due, eventually. And it's one that you can't pay.

Mr Bombastic

Voice of Reason wrote:

If you want to call aborting a fetus "executing children" that is your right. But you must remember that it is also your religious belief, and you don't have any right to impose that religious belief on others. Just as Muslims have no right to impose Sharia Law on you or me.

It is not a religious belief. By every medical definition available, a fetus is alive.

Mr Bombastic

Super Dave wrote:

Do you know how most abortions are done? Ripping limbs off of bodies. Burning them to death with a salt solution. Sucking their brains out of their skulls. All without pain killers.

A murderers execution is kind and cuddly by comparison.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Super Dave wrote:

I want referring to you, LJ.

I agree with your assessment. Unfortunately, however, we cannot allow foster parenting to be a method for perverts to get victims. That will neccesarily slow the process.

I agree with you here, Dave... The most troubling part was finally beginning to see their trust ever so slight in you and then bam, whisked away usually to go back to that parent or parents..

Our system especially flawed when it comes to our children's safety..you say it true in not letting foster care be an excuse those monsters got (get) away with soooooo much!!!

I could share a few of the expierences but truly too painful to do so..

Suffice it to say those people only wanted the children back for the social services, food stamp, housing, wick and yes, cash allowances too..

Mr Bombastic

lindajoy wrote:

I didn't say kill a child because they might becom... (show quote)

The whole damn mess wouldn't even exist if people would simply raise their children responsibly. Most abortions are teen abortions if I'm not mistaken. That's the parents fault because they are failures. I have three siblings. None of us had sex before marriage. All have stable relationships and several happy, and mostly healthy children. There is one, and only one reason for that. Our parents raised us right.

In short, abortion isn't the problem. It's a symptom.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Mr Bombastic wrote:

The whole damn mess wouldn't even exist if people would simply raise their children responsibly. Most abortions are teen abortions if I'm not mistaken. That's the parents fault because they are failures. I have three siblings. None of us had sex before marriage. All have stable relationships and several happy, and mostly healthy children. There is one, and only one reason for that. Our parents raised us right.

In short, abortion isn't the problem. It's a symptom.

We are a protocol of our environment , parents up bringing etc..

You are right it starts and stops at home.. The family unity established that before it has been eroded away in excess progressive liberalism BS!!

The teens getting pregnant have no concern but the moment of the act.. Not even love and desire, that is what most so desperately want and seek out, but a way of being accepted..Coming from a broken home, irresponsible parents that drink too much or do drugs to stay numb themselves..

We've provided every available means of Education, condoms, birth control, etc and yet the abortion rate continues.. The one seeking the love and acceptance has turned to what they know from their no family unity.. They run the streets, the only life they truly know..

You can't force them to get out of their terrible life, they don't know it's so terrible.. They believe that's just the way it is...Hard to change when that's all they have ever known..

RETW Loc: Washington

Mr Bombastic wrote:

I assume some of you have children who you love very much. Probably grandchildren too. Here's a question for you. Actually, not really a question but a suggestion. Think about how different your life would be if your children had been aborted. Just think about it.

Now why did you have to go spoil my day Mr. B???????????????

RETW

PS: What do you think of my new Avatar?

Mr Bombastic

RETW wrote:

Now why did you have to go spoil my day Mr. B???????????????

RETW

PS: What do you think of my new Avatar?

Sigh...Everyone's a critic.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

lindajoy wrote:

I agree with you here, Dave... The most troubling ... (show quote)

Yeah... The benefits.. There a lot of that going around.

I know your heart was stabbed when you gave them back.

I once told my daughter that sometimes the only thing we get out of doing the right thing is the knowledge that we did the right thing and the knowledge that God knows we did the right thing.

I told her sometimes even I may not know she did the right thing but as long as she knew it, she could manage.

You did the right thing.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Super Dave wrote:

Yeah... The benefits.. There a lot of that going around.

I know your heart was stabbed when you gave them back.

I once told my daughter that sometimes the only thing we get out of doing the right thing is the knowledge that we did the right thing and the knowledge that God knows we did the right thing.

I told her sometimes even I may not know she did the right thing but as long as she knew it, she could manage.

You did the right thing.

Thank You, Dave..

I didn't do it as long as I should have as it got heart wrenching with each one.. I learned it doesn't take much to want to defend those little ones against their own supposed parent...

More than anything I learned how we truly do drop the ball on them in the judicial process of "supposed best interest of that child."..

Your daughter I am sure is much like her father.. She is lucky in having you to guide her.. Goes back to what Mr. B said~ starts at home...

RETW Loc: Washington

JW wrote:

I seriously doubt that any woman has every gone into an abortion clinic with the attitude that she wanted to kill a kid. I'll wager she did so worrying about the life she would live or what the future for her and her children would be if she didn't go in there.

I really hope you mother only had one of you.

RETW

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

lindajoy wrote:

Thank You, Dave.. br br I didn't do it as long a... (show quote)

The daughter is better than the father. More proof of God's love.

The judicial process is screwed. But remember, it should be difficult to take a child from his/her parents.

As painful as it is we cannot allow the state to remove children from parents without exceptional cause.

There is no perfect solution here. Just the least bad solution.

RETW Loc: Washington

JW wrote:

Define for me what is a human being.

What's the use, you don't qualify. So how could you possibly understand?

RETW