This is a rare occasion I have to agree with tdrnest. Attacking him, instead of his message, is idiotic. The GOP health INSURANCE bill throws those that need health CARE the most (the elderly, the disabled, the chronically ill and children) under the bus for the benefit of private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations.They don't need health INSURANCE, THEY NEED HEALTH CARE! Goddamn, why do the monkeys in DC for the health INSURANCE organ grinders want to take health CARE away from those that need it the most and some, the elderly, that have paid for it? Fuck a bunch of greedy, for profit health INSURANCE corporations.

Medicare for All, with ALL taxpayers paying into the system, and eliminating the greedy health INSURANCE corporations, is the only solution to getting health CARE costs under control and "ensuring" everyone that needs health CARE gets it. Idiots and businesses pay the extortion rates to private, for profit health INSURANCE corporations and never use it or can't because of high deductibles and co-pays, yet never bitch about those that do use it at. The same with Medicare for All, some would use it, others wouldn't. Only it would be cheaper and 95% of taxpayers and most businesses would save money.

I agree with you. I don't trust government to run anything efficiently. Unfortunately I don't trust health insurance companies either. I have no propblem with profits. I want the person in charge of my health care making a decent living. I just don't see how anyne can possibly believe that medicaire for all is monetarily attainable. Government is much like a corporation. So we would be putting bueracrats in place of CEO's. There is already plenty of waste and fraud in government programs. What would make this any different? Buffalo has posted plenty about the affordability of Medicare for all. I have seen just as many articles showing it breaking the budget. Maybe it would be nice if we had a choice. You know the American way.

Well, guess what Sassy? The government (taxpayers) is already paying 65% of US health CARE costs, Medicare, Medicaid, VA, end stage renal care, federal, state and local workers. Medicare and Medicaid alone cover 1 out of 3 Americans. That is over 120 MILLION people. Ask any old person how they like their Medicare and I can guarantee that 80% will say they like it, as compared to 48% of people with private health INSURANCE that are dissatisfied with it mainly due to it excessive cost and high deductibles. Why is this fact ignored?

Don't confuse socialized health CARE with Medicare. The doctors and medical personnel in the VA system work for and are paid by the government. VA hospitals are government owned. With Medicare, as would be a Medicare for All system, the doctors are still in private practices, or hospitalists and the hospitals are privately owned. So do not confuse single payer with socialized medicine.

Lass.

You say auto insurance is the same as health insurance..

Car insurance is required in most states..

Does auto insurance have live time limits on coverage, or refuse coverage due to projected high costs, (prexisting conditons), do auto insurance get to decide they will cover this fender but not that trunk panel????

Some on OPP can no doubt make a lot of this sort of comparison..

And in the end.... If a person had no choice at all, most could get along with no car and thus no car insurance.

but everyone will have health issues.. People can not do with out health care, nor the insurance to pay for it..

I will add that Buffalo posted a good idea..

Finally the GOP has a healthcare package that fits there ideology of hate. After all they will be orgasmatic when Trump Nukes North Korea, Iran, and kills 50 million, men, Women and children. He will be right up there with Hitler the right wing new hero because they support the Neo Nazies, White supremacist. Trump could possibly out due Hitler. That would make the Trump supporters ecstatic you people will be dancing in the streets. We can cancel the 4th of July and have a new holiday Trump/Hitler day.

But the real excitement for the Trump supporters. Take healthcare away from 31 million people. Now I understand why the last repeal failed it did not kill enough Kids in that one it only took away healthcare for 25 million people. But let's not forget our elderly and handicapped living in nursing homes they kept the part where they cut $800 billion from Medicaid so they got you also elderly. Isn't that wonderful they are going to kill you also.

(IT WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR TRUMP SUPPORTERS IMAGINE THEY GET TO WATCH 6 MILLION KIDS DIE)

Can you imagine the right wing method of holding public hearings on healthcare. Here is what there public hearing consist of it's actually comical but like I said 1 out of every 3 Trump supporters are just as stupid as the other two. Okay here is the public hearing.

Hearing will take place for 30 minutes at the Homeland Security meeting (now that's strange why a Homeland Security committee meeting) only two people are allowed to testify. Since Trump supporters never read legislation and I always read legislation there's no sense in me posting what's in it because I will be called a liar. No CBO report, no GAO report, no idea of the cost impact to American people, the Federal government, and most important the massive cost pushed onto the states which Trump supporters have no idea because they refuse to read legislation they just listen to the freak in the White House. (Trump quote Graham/Cassidy will be great) no details because he has no idea what's in it. There are 7 red state governors that are against this bill now. Not to mention only 12% of this country is for the repeal of the ACA and I think 50% of those idiots are on OPP.

These are the only two allowed to testify.
Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy and guess what the name of the bill is yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you guessed it Graham/Cassidy bill. They know exactly how to play to there base let's just go out and kill some poor kids. After all poor kids grow up to vote democratic, because democrats believe in breaking a string of poverty by feeding, educating, and medical care. Republicans believe in wealthy tax cuts, subsidies to the corporate Elite and eliminate minimum wage. What a great agenda for eliminating voter fraud. Just kill these kids before they can vote.

The following Association have come out against this Healthcare package and they have indicated that it will deny medical care to Millions. We have no way of checking this because the right wing refuses a CBO evaluation. It would only take a few days so why not do it.

I have personally donated to most of these foundations. I am sure a Trump supporter never gave a dime to anyone of them because these foundations save lives. That's not a priority to Trump supporters but a All white society and keeping there's guns are. They love guns because it's just another way of killing.

American Cancer Society, American Diabetes Asso., American Heart Asso. American Lung Asso. Arthritis foundation, Cystic Fibrosis foundation, ALS foundation, March of Dimes, Children's Hospital. I will now ask you a question do we believe the above associations and foundations or believe the three right wing morons below. I posted pictures of these people because they are you're leaders to create a new and wonderful killing field for Trump supporters.

We live in the most wealthy country in the world, the right wing talks about billions being spent on a foolish wall, eliminating inheritance taxes, cutting corporate tax rates to 15%, increase of oil and farm subsidies, eliminate the alternative Minimum tax, nuclear war with North Korea, escalate the Iraq/Afghanistan war trillions of dollars in lost funds to the Federal but these Trump supporters will deny a kid medical attention for a congenital heart disease. (HOW DOES THIS MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN)

Before you idiots start you're insults read the GD bill

I just have one thing to say not one of you idiots commented on the topic. You are creating a killing field and you Ass holes are concerned about my spelling. Why not try and dispute what's in the topic. You people are sick, you claim to care about this country but you're all for throwing 31 million people off healthcare. Cut $800 billion out of Medicaid. You don't think that's going to hurt a lot of people. The Trump supporter are more concerned with spelling than trying to save a kid.

I have spent a lot time working with the national kidney foundation. Because I have a son that has been on dialysis now for two years. I attended monthly meetings at the Kidney transplant center. Over the last year I was able to get 12 people health Insurance 2 of them were kids and it was gut wrenching to see it. There parents could not afford the medication these two kids needed.
But knowing the total scope of the ACA I was able to help them.
Maybe you UN caring pieces of garbage should maybe visit some of these hospitals that have Children in them and tell me it's a great idea to put life time limits back into law, tell me pre existing conditions gets you put into a high risk pool where there are no limits as to what insurance companies can charge. Damm you people live in a cloud these kids will reach there lifetime limits before they reach the age of 12 and they will never be able to get medical insurance again.

What makes you people ignorant UN-caring ass holes is because you refuse to read the legislation you listen to Cassidy or Graham and those two are lying like hell.

So keep critiquing my spelling because none of you Trump supporters have a clue. But you're great spellers.

What there doing is nothing more than shoveling a block grant and let the states handle there own health Indurance and god forbid if you live in NC, SC, FL, LA, Al, Mississippi, Wisconsin, TN, OK, Missouri, and if you live in TX he will take that Block grant and just use it to balance his budget screw healthcare.

But all the right wing is doing is grabbing the cash out of the ACA and Medicaid so they can finance there wealthy tax cuts. It's a GD disgrace what there doing.

So yes they will be able to shout out how great it is that the right wing lowered premiums but you throw 31 million people of healthcare, throw pre existing conditions into a high risk pool and the carriers can charge anything they want and you won't be able to afford it. Then add in lifetime limits.
Congratulations right wing you're killing field just expanded.

Lass.

You say auto insurance is the same as health insurance..

Car insurance is required in most states..

Does auto insurance have live time limits on coverage, or refuse coverage due to projected high costs, (prexisting conditons), do auto insurance get to decide they will cover this fender but not that trunk panel????

Some on OPP can no doubt make a lot of this sort of comparison..

And in the end.... If a person had no choice at all, most could get along with no car and thus no car insurance.

but everyone will have health issues.. People can not do with out health care, nor the insurance to pay for it..

I will add that Buffalo posted a good idea..