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Aug 14, 2017 20:48:09   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
son of witless wrote:
There is a wind turbine near me and over the last 5 or 6 years it has been idle more than it has been active. I wonder how many of these solar panels I see everywhere are doing anything at all..


Most probably do something.

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Aug 15, 2017 02:33:12   #
Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM
 
Loki wrote:
But what about our Tofu?


Now that's one thing I for sure won't be missing. How that is even called food is beyond me.

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Aug 15, 2017 02:38:39   #
Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM
 
Super Dave wrote:
Most probably do something.

Even if it is just taking up space. If they get dirty they don't work. My sister put some on her house, 3 years later she had them removed. Said they never did much, and always need to be cleaned to get the water up to 100 F.

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Aug 15, 2017 02:58:27   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Rainrider wrote:
Now that's one thing I for sure won't be missing. How that is even called food is beyond me.

What about Goji berries and Granola and seaweed? What will we do without those California specialties?
Not to mention organic rutabagas.

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Aug 15, 2017 03:00:24   #
Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM
 
Loki wrote:
What about Goji berries and Granola and seaweed? What will we do without those California specialties?
Not to mention organic rutabagas.


Stake and taters.

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Aug 15, 2017 03:05:29   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Rainrider wrote:
Stake and taters.

Reminds me of someone at the local coffee shop who said they didn't believe in killing innocent animals. I wondered out loud if he thought the chicken breast sandwich he was eating came from a hen who had a voluntary mastectomy.

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Aug 15, 2017 03:55:06   #
Rainrider Loc: Lovington NM
 
Loki wrote:
Reminds me of someone at the local coffee shop who said they didn't believe in killing innocent animals. I wondered out loud if he thought the chicken breast sandwich he was eating came from a hen who had a voluntary mastectomy.


Being a full on member of PETA, ( People eating tasty animals) I won't turn down a good roast.

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Aug 15, 2017 05:15:27   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Loki wrote:
Reminds me of someone at the local coffee shop who said they didn't believe in killing innocent animals. I wondered out loud if he thought the chicken breast sandwich he was eating came from a hen who had a voluntary mastectomy.


Don't be so judgmental. Maybe the chicken was convicted of a capitol crime.

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Aug 15, 2017 09:10:56   #
Bevos
 
Loki wrote:
But what about our Tofu?



I have tried it, and they can KEEP that TOO!!!

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Aug 15, 2017 09:12:21   #
Bevos
 
Loki wrote:
Reminds me of someone at the local coffee shop who said they didn't believe in killing innocent animals. I wondered out loud if he thought the chicken breast sandwich he was eating came from a hen who had a voluntary mastectomy.


LOLOL GOOD ONE!!!

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Aug 15, 2017 09:13:28   #
Bevos
 
Rainrider wrote:
Being a full on member of PETA, ( People eating tasty animals) I won't turn down a good roast.


YUMM!!!

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Aug 15, 2017 09:23:45   #
Bevos
 
Rainrider wrote:
Even if it is just taking up space. If they get dirty they don't work. My sister put some on her house, 3 years later she had them removed. Said they never did much, and always need to be cleaned to get the water up to 100 F.


My Brother had them in Mich too. Eventually took them down because they did NOT do much!!! They never did reach the point that they offset the initial cost!!! He sold them in a yard sale!!

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Aug 18, 2017 13:25:49   #
200MPHTape
 
son of witless wrote:
There is a wind turbine near me and over the last 5 or 6 years it has been idle more than it has been active. I wonder how many of these solar panels I see everywhere are doing anything at all..
Dove season opener is Sep. 1, Ill take some pics where the panels were installed last year, for some unknown reason, they were in such a hurry to get them installed to get the Obama rebate that they forgot to include a maintenance program to clean the panels. Last year when I was down there a field that had panels installed 2 years ago had sand piled in all the corners of the panels, and tapered off toward the middle, rubbing dust on you will give you an SPF of 10, I'm sure that as much sand is on them if they are on the grid, they are not producing much.

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Aug 18, 2017 13:57:17   #
JimMe
 
200MPHTape wrote:
Dove season opener is Sep. 1, Ill take some pics where the panels were installed last year, for some unknown reason, they were in such a hurry to get them installed to get the Obama rebate that they forgot to include a maintenance program to clean the panels. Last year when I was down there a field that had panels installed 2 years ago had sand piled in all the corners of the panels, and tapered off toward the middle, rubbing dust on you will give you an SPF of 10, I'm sure that as much sand is on them if they are on the grid, they are not producing much.
Dove season opener is Sep. 1, Ill take some pics w... (show quote)



I'm living in Tucson, Arizona the past 12 years, and there's certainly a lot of houses with solar panels... But there's also a lot of dust in the air because... well... this is the Southwest Desert, and any wind over 4-or-5 MPH will carry the dirt with ease... So, I'd imagine solar panels from Southern California to the High Plains Texas Desert will have concerns with dirty panels lowering efficiency...

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Aug 18, 2017 15:06:56   #
200MPHTape
 
JimMe wrote:
I'm living in Tucson, Arizona the past 12 years, and there's certainly a lot of houses with solar panels... But there's also a lot of dust in the air because... well... this is the Southwest Desert, and any wind over 4-or-5 MPH will carry the dirt with ease... So, I'd imagine solar panels from Southern California to the High Plains Texas Desert will have concerns with dirty panels lowering efficiency...

It will fail just like it did in the 70's, the only difference between panels of today and the 70's is cost of manufacturing, their output is almost the same per square foot. There is a wind farm (Ocotillo wind farm) that it seems like every other month they have to shut them down, blade throw, fire, blade flexing to much and striking the tower and collapsing. Each time they all go off line until the investigation to the failure is determined, there is rarely a time when the wind is in the ideal conditions to use them, it's either not enough, or to much wind.

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